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Ok, let us get this cleared up: It is my belief that Russian gays can’t sue the military if they feel like they didn’t get a promotion they were qualified for simply because they are gay. I don’t have to look it up because I know it to be true balls to bones.
I also think the same is true for 99% of the countries you folks are throwing in my face in an attempt to make the US look like it is more bigoted than the rest of the world.
I call you on your claim that Russia (an others) not having a ban on gays is the same as it is in the US. Gays have rights, as a protected group, in the US that they don’t have in other countries.
So, if you think you can just throw out a list of countries that don’t have bans on gays serving in the military and claim that wins your argument for you, you are mistaken.
Actually, you are trying to connect two dots that are not even in the same plane of existence. It fails, apdst.
Really? I’ll have to confirm this, but if true, this will have a major impact on my reasons for opposing the bill.
I honestly hope you are correct.
Really? I’ll have to confirm this, but if true, this will have a major impact on my reasons for opposing the bill.
I honestly hope you are correct.
You have not shown where they are different. You have not shown any evidence that lawsuits would be a problem. You have not shown anything really.
There is a caveat. If the ACLU can sue the military for discrimination against a service member on behalf of that service member or while that service member is still in the service, my argument stands. If not, I might have to retract my opposition to this bill.
Google searches are your friend. You will end up here: Feres v. United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now you see why you should do your own homework?
2. My drama? lol, I’m talking about the shortcomings of this bill and all you can come up with is my “drama”? lol
I don't have to show anything do I?
Your point? Other than being insulting?
Depends on whether you want to make a point. If you are not trying to actually debate, then no, you don't have to show anything. If you are interested in discussion and debate of issues, then yes, really you do.
It took me ~5 minutes once you finally got around to saying what you where trying to say to show where you where wrong...it took roguenuke less time.
In other words, the intolerant will not be tolerated. That's not exactly a message of peace and tolerance.
The gay marriage thing is going to be fascinating in the military now. Will gay couples married in Vermont qualify for spousal benefits? It'll cause problems with a gay couple in Texas. Perhaps it'll will be the driving course for gay marriage a couple years from now.
Now you see why you should do your own homework?
I love that hypocritical attitude. "We're so tolerant for everyone. Unless you disagree, then you're a hateful bigot and we won't tolerate you."
True tolerance requires you to tolerate beliefs and cultures even if you don't think they're right.
Oh I see, I should research everything first, make sure I have all the answers and a completely closed mind…..and then I can come to this debate just to argue (bang my head against a wall) with people like you. Is that how is supposed to work?
If you have all of the answers (stemming from adequate research) then who ever is on the other side of the discussion will be wrong.
If gays don’t start asking for special treatment in the military (not holding my breath) and it doesn’t end up costing the military a boatload of money, I have no problem with this bill at this time.
Oh I see, I should research everything first, make sure I have all the answers and a completely closed mind…..and then I can come to this debate just to argue (bang my head against a wall) with people like you. Is that how is supposed to work?
Thanks Einstein, that’s cute but irrelevant.
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Thanks Einstein, that’s cute but irrelevant.
Moderator's Warning: Knock off the nastiness.
Wait... you're saying that doing research and support for your arguments equal a closed mind?
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