Cracking down on conservative talk shows?

[What if...?]

None were Antifa - and all the organizers were well known.

Shhh.

(We want them to think everybody around them is antifa)

 

[Jonsa]

Right! They weren't democrats shitting on the floor of the capitol...democrats were busy shitting on our city streets and looting and burning down those same cities. I love the smell of burning shit in the morning.

that you think its the same thing says it all. You'll pardon the democrats for respecting one of the most cherished symbols of American Democracy.

I can see why so many patriotic republicans goosestepped into it.

 

[Jonsa]

I am guessing you are a CNN viewer.

I'm guessing your a OANN viewer who thinks Alex Jones is a genius.

 

[What if...?]

There were Antifa members in the Capitol disguised as Trump supporters. That's a FACT. I don't think it's been determined who the organizers were.

That's a rumor I spread on the internet weeks before the 6th. It's here somewhere.

So now it's established that antifa has infiltrated your ranks with your hat and t-shirts.

What can you do to keep them from framing you again? Fooling you into losing your right to bear arms? One Guy did that, armed with a cellphone.

I heard that lots of people are saying that trump is now antifa because the MAGAs failed to save his presidency and antifa made them look like suckers. He only likes insurgents that successfully subvert democracy.

You're dumped. By trump. For antifa. Younger, prettier, smarter.

 

[MamboDervish]

mash being wrong is about as unexpected as water being wet

Shhh.

(We want them to think everybody around them is antifa)

Now you tell me?! Why didn't you use the exxtra-double-secret DSPB - deep state posting board - to keep everyone in the loop?

 

[What if...?]

State aproved media, deplatform and crush dissent. Where have we seen this before?

It is kinda last century.

Nowadays you don't need to silence anybody.

You can just do what conservative media has done and convince your subjects to reject any information not delivered from an approved source.

Then you can tell them an election is stolen and nobody can convince them otherwise and they attack the Capitol.

 

[MamboDervish]

I'm guessing your a OANN viewer who thinks Alex Jones is a genius.

Apropos of which, did you happen to catch this update of the Frontline documentary "United States of Conspiracy" ?? It's time well spent.
In it, Alex Jones admits, under oath, that he suffers from a psychosis which essentially makes him disbelieve any verifiably true news story.
His brain is cross-wired - and he knows it!

United States of Conspiracy | FRONTLINE

Watch FRONTLINE’s documentary investigating the alliance among conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, longtime Trump associate Roger Stone and President Donald Trump.

www.pbs.org

What Alex Jones Said in the Lead Up to the Capitol Riot

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones riled up crowds over a stolen election preceding the attack on the Capitol, making sure to urge "peacefully" protesting.

www.pbs.org

The updated epilogue brings it right up to last week's Capitol insurrection. Catch it if you can.

 

[brianpatrick]

I don’t think regulating conservative talk show hosts (or any media) is a good idea. I know it’s a hard problem when it’s almost impossible to get straight news anywhere in the US. There are a few sources you can get pretty good news these days, if you look. You might have to dig through some political leaning or other, but it’s there.

I want to know what the whackos are thinking. Look at the capital riot: those people were so committed that they actually went in there with their faces exposed and gave their names (in many cases) on camera. There is hours of damning footage of the event. And that’s exactly what I want to know as an American.

there will always be whackos and people who aren’t very bright. We can’t stop them from being that. But we can know where they are and what they’re doing.

 

[noonereal]

I don’t think regulating conservative talk show hosts (or any media) is a good idea.

Nor, I believe, does anyone.
The problem here is how do we establish the line on conservative or liberal (are there any) media that goes from freedom of speech to yelling fire in a crowded theater?

Certainly far too much hate radio from teh right has crossed this line. But where exactly do we pull the plug?

 

[MamboDervish]

I don’t think regulating conservative talk show hosts (or any media) is a good idea. . . . . . . . . .

Welcome newcomer.
I make a distinction between "regulating conservative talk show hosts", and allowing seditious lies, and advocacy of violent insurrection.
The former is simply freedom of speech. The latter is treason, and content providers have every right to ban that from their websites.

In fact, they have a duty to.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Habitual lying should be restricted and punished. Obviously the listener can not be trusted to discern truth from fiction.

No...sorry. It is society's responsibility to see to it that people are properly educated and can practice critical thinking.
The latter has been in very short supply the last forty years.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Sad thing is one must be preinclined to buy the crap Rush, Alex, Sean and Tucker spew. So, in my view, it is the listener who is the real piece of shit.

That's because they were trained to be. And they lacked the critical thinking ability to judge for themselves.

 

[cabse5]

So those goobers stormed the capitol thinking they had America guarding their six.

Turns out America has sent over 100,000 tips to the FBI to make sure these fools go to jail. America did not support their actions.

Where did they get the idea that they were doing the right thing?

Conservative talk shows like Limbaugh, Levine and Hannity.

We the tax payers own the airwaves these shows are transmitted over. Should we allow these shows to publish fake news stories like "there was massive election fraud?" Such stories are a threat to the Constitution as we've seen. The hosts of these shows know the truth, but they say what their audience wants to hear.

It's not suppression of free speech, these hosts can find other media to host on. A street corner and a box will do.

Should we regulate these shows?

The OP is another fascist at the ready, I see.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I don’t think regulating conservative talk show hosts (or any media) is a good idea. I know it’s a hard problem when it’s almost impossible to get straight news anywhere in the US. There are a few sources you can get pretty good news these days, if you look. You might have to dig through some political leaning or other, but it’s there.

I want to know what the whackos are thinking. Look at the capital riot: those people were so committed that they actually went in there with their faces exposed and gave their names (in many cases) on camera. There is hours of damning footage of the event. And that’s exactly what I want to know as an American.

there will always be whackos and people who aren’t very bright. We can’t stop them from being that. But we can know where they are and what they’re doing.

There does not need to be any new form of regulation. We not only have laws on the books against insurrection, we also have a bright line direct from the Constitution itself that specifically states that there is no First Amendment right to inciting insurrection. So all we really need to do is do a better job of enforcing what we already have.

 

[brianpatrick]

Nor, I believe, does anyone.
The problem here is how do we establish the line on conservative or liberal (are there any) media that goes from freedom of speech to yelling fire in a crowded theater?

Certainly far too much hate radio from teh right has crossed this line. But where exactly do we pull the plug?

When someone crosses the legal line we can prosecute them. I can understand wanting to stop these things before they happen, but it’s easier to prosecute when they are out in the open.

 

[cabse5]

There does not need to be any new form of regulation. We not only have laws on the books against insurrection, we also have a bright line direct from the Constitution itself that specifically states that there is no First Amendment right to inciting insurrection. So all we really need to do is do a better job of enforcing what we already have.

Insurrection laws should've been upheld last summer.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Nor, I believe, does anyone.
The problem here is how do we establish the line on conservative or liberal (are there any) media that goes from freedom of speech to yelling fire in a crowded theater?

Certainly far too much hate radio from teh right has crossed this line. But where exactly do we pull the plug?

We don't. We simply do a much better job enforcing the prohibition against terroristic threats, inciting violence and perpetrating stochastic terrorism, all of which have ample legal precedent.

 

[Moot]

I'm against banning....but I think they should bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

 

[brianpatrick]

Welcome newcomer.
I make a distinction between "regulating conservative talk show hosts", and allowing seditious lies, and advocacy of violent insurrection.
The former is simply freedom of speech. The latter is treason, and content providers have every right to ban that from their websites.

In fact, they have a duty to.

yeah, but nobody who is in any way self aware would believe anything they hear from some shill-bag on any of these shows. So, the only people listening are the ones who are not too smart, or the ones who are hurting and need something to blame for their hurt. Seems to me best if we let them have it and keep an eye on them. Again... easier to prosecute that way.

 

[Fledermaus]

So those goobers stormed the capitol thinking they had America guarding their six.

Turns out America has sent over 100,000 tips to the FBI to make sure these fools go to jail. America did not support their actions.

Where did they get the idea that they were doing the right thing?

Conservative talk shows like Limbaugh, Levine and Hannity.

We the tax payers own the airwaves these shows are transmitted over. Should we allow these shows to publish fake news stories like "there was massive election fraud?" Such stories are a threat to the Constitution as we've seen. The hosts of these shows know the truth, but they say what their audience wants to hear.

It's not suppression of free speech, these hosts can find other media to host on. A street corner and a box will do.

Should we regulate these shows?

Can't answer the poll.... Choices are loaded and no "other" option.

 

[Jonsa]

Now you tell me?! Why didn't you use the exxtra-double-secret DSPB - deep state posting board - to keep everyone in the loop?

didn't you get the memo? we switched to the extra triple secret back door block chain dominion voting machine server. The looop survives!

 

[MamboDervish]

When someone crosses the legal line we can prosecute them. I can understand wanting to stop these things before they happen, but it’s easier to prosecute when they are out in the open.

?? After the damage is done? After the mal-informed army is already in the streets occupying buildings and killing the opposition?
Nobody is talking about curtailing freedom of speech - the free exchange of ideas and information.
UNLESS that information involves the logistics of insurrection, and the calls to attack.
If I'm the owner of a forum, I reserve the right to banish treason from my website.

 

[Phys251]

A "free" sample of the torrent of subversion those goobers are subjected to. You can almost feel sorry for them.

Those right-wing extremists were inciting stochastic terrorism.

 

[brianpatrick]

As for private companies, so far they can do what they want. They can de-platform people if they want, they can freeze or flag accounts and apply warnings to content there for whatever political reason they want.

 

[Jonsa]

Apropos of which, did you happen to catch this update of the Frontline documentary "United States of Conspiracy" ?? It's time well spent.
In it, Alex Jones admits, under oath, that he suffers from a psychosis which essentially makes him disbelieve any verifiably true news story.
His brain is cross-wired - and he knows it!

United States of Conspiracy | FRONTLINE

Watch FRONTLINE’s documentary investigating the alliance among conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, longtime Trump associate Roger Stone and President Donald Trump.

www.pbs.org

What Alex Jones Said in the Lead Up to the Capitol Riot

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones riled up crowds over a stolen election preceding the attack on the Capitol, making sure to urge "peacefully" protesting.

www.pbs.org

The updated epilogue brings it right up to last week's Capitol insurrection. Catch it if you can.

So its a mental condition. does he attribute his audience's belief to the same psychosis, or does he have any other insight as to his popularity amongst a small but very strange group of people?