Covid is killing more people now that during most of the pandemic.

[bomberfox]

It was wrong to just declare omicron as our way out of this. Gives people a false sense of security.

 

[Lycanthrope]

That seems almost stupid.

What president wants a greater body count?

See, what's happening is Biden knows mostly conservatives are refusing to take the vaccine, so there's a concerted effort on the part of the left to stall/prohibit forward treatments as they would primarily benefit his political opposition.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

minorities (who are dying 2/1 over young white guys)

That was early on, not happening like that anymore.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Fact check: Has COVID-19 omicron surge been even harder on Blacks, Latinos?

There’s no question the COVID-19 pandemic has hit minorities hard — but has omicron been even tougher on them?

www.cbs17.com

THE CLAIM: NCDHHS says the rate of infections was “twice as high” for Blacks than whites, and “as much as 57 percent higher among the Hispanic population” versus non-Hispanics. It also says that case rates for Blacks were lower than they were for whites when December started, and that during the first 17 days of 2022, hospitalization rates for Blacks were “nearly double the rate of whites.”

THE FACTS: Dr. Audrea Caesar, the chief diversity, equity and inclusion officer at the UNC Health, says those numbers check out.

And?

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

And?

And blacks and Hispanic voted for Trump according to you.

This is red phase covid, mostly unvaccinated tRumpers doing the dying.

I have a hard time getting worked up over that.

Fact check: Has COVID-19 omicron surge been even harder on Blacks, Latinos?

There’s no question the COVID-19 pandemic has hit minorities hard — but has omicron been even tougher on them?

www.cbs17.com

THE CLAIM: NCDHHS says the rate of infections was “twice as high” for Blacks than whites, and “as much as 57 percent higher among the Hispanic population” versus non-Hispanics. It also says that case rates for Blacks were lower than they were for whites when December started, and that during the first 17 days of 2022, hospitalization rates for Blacks were “nearly double the rate of whites.”

THE FACTS: Dr. Audrea Caesar, the chief diversity, equity and inclusion officer at the UNC Health, says those numbers check out.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

And blacks and Hispanic voted for Trump according to you.

The key word here is "mostly".

 

[Acadia]

That seems almost stupid.

What president wants a greater body count?

What President would fail to provide citizens with means to avoid hospitalization and death?
This hasn't been a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". What utter bullshit.

This has been, and continues to be, a pandemic of the untreated.

 

[Fledermaus]

What President would fail to provide citizens with means to avoid hospitalization and death?

What treatment?

Ivermectin?

HCQ?

This hasn't been a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". What utter bullshit.

The numbers disagree with you.

This has been, and continues to be, a pandemic of the untreated.

Treated with what?

And they likely wouldn't need treatment if they were vaxxed.

 

[Bodi]

Yeah, who cares about those immunocompromised, kids and minorities...

Yuck.

This is not Sesame Street. If there is a war over vaccines and masks going on and you are compromised then stay in and protect yourself.

 

[Bodi]

What President would fail to provide citizens with means to avoid hospitalization and death?
This hasn't been a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". What utter bullshit.

This has been, and continues to be, a pandemic of the untreated.

That does not make much sense... untreated how?

 

[Bodi]

Moronic is a version of the mild common cold .

The gene treatments are made with a toxic substance wrapped in a poison gel containing other toxic nano particles .

Which do you think is the killer ?

P.S. Why are 80% of hospitalisations and deaths all Vaxxed people ?
Oh dear .
Doesn't your MSM tell you that ?

During a pandemic, you might see headlines like “Half of those who died from the virus were vaccinated”.

It would be wrong to draw any conclusions about whether the vaccines are protecting people from the virus based on this headline. The headline is not providing enough information to draw any conclusions.

Let’s think through an example to see this.
Imagine we live in a place with a population of 60 people.

Then we learn that 10 people died. And we learn that 50% of them were vaccinated.





The newspaper may run the headline “Half of those who died from the virus were vaccinated”. But this headline does not tell us anything about whether the vaccine is protecting people or not.

To be able to say anything, we also need to know about those who did not die: how many people in this population were vaccinated? And how many were not vaccinated?




Now we have all the information we need and can calculate the death rates:

• of 10 unvaccinated people, 5 died → the death rate among the unvaccinated is 50%
• of 50 vaccinated people, 5 died → the death rate among the vaccinated is 10%

How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not?

To understand how the pandemic is evolving, it’s crucial to know how death rates from COVID-19 are affected by vaccination status.

ourworldindata.org

 

[year2late]

What President would fail to provide citizens with means to avoid hospitalization and death?
This hasn't been a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". What utter bullshit.

This has been, and continues to be, a pandemic of the untreated.

At this point, nearly all of the seriously ill patients we are seeing are unvaccinated. The rare vaccinated one has severe medical issues (diseases causing immune suppression)

The doctors I speak to that go to multiple area facilities are saying the same thing.

The immunizations are available and free. Many are actively choosing not to take it.

Can you believe that even with proof of vaccination required to visit patients....we still have families that refuse to get vaccinated - even with their loved one critically ill from the covid infection?

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

The key word here is "mostly".

Have any real statistics like I gave about blacks and Hispanics being hardest hit by omicron or just wishful thinking on your part?

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Covid-19 is killing more people now than during most of the pandemic. Here's who's still at risk | CNN

Plummeting Covid-19 case counts across the United States are leading to lifted mask mandates and more conversations about steps toward normalcy -- but more people are dying of the coronavirus now than during most points of the pandemic.

www.cnn.com

Awesome... what a great time for states to roll back protections. So many unnecessary deaths. Telling everyone Omicron was mild was a ****ing deadly mistake.

Something doesn't add up here. Omicron is less deadly, its case numbers are plummeting but deaths are higher than ever? Seems like fuzzy math.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Eventually we will run out of unvaxxed whack-jobs.

That will require every single "whack job" to die, a vaccine mandate with no exemptions allowed, or Jesus returning to Earth.

 

[bluesmoke]

Yeah, I can see that coming. Covid will be the new old mans friend. What I hope to see is accommodations being made for the new norm. Our healthcare system isn't equipped to handle the influx. We will have to build more, and come up with an enticing deal for more healthcare workers. With the boomer gen aging, and Covid, we need to do something. Vaccines are the easiest, obvious way to prevent hospitalization but as long as the anti vax conservatives are working their magic, another solution needs to be implemented.

The only two solutions in play are vax and waiting for the virus to "go away". Containment is the #1 priority in virus response, which various practices a huge portion of our pop have successfully resisted. There is no scientific community support to the notion that surviving Omicron leads to immunity from all COVID for any sustainable period of time. Until science can come up with a therapeutic/cure (when being hospitalized is the only time when the unvaxxed finally come around to treatment), and so many people continue to resist vax, waiting for the virus to let us alone with little deadly effect is now the only American response, which is not containment. There is no other solution and we've proved implementation of the best solution, vax, has been rejected to a significant degree by Americans. So, it is therefore likely implementation of other solution of any kind will be just as much rejected. These nutcases might even reject a pill.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Have any real statistics like I gave about blacks and Hispanics being hardest hit by omicron or just wishful thinking on your part?

I have a whole thread on it here somewhere, but here's a link to news article.

People in counties that voted Trump more likely to die from Covid – study

Areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rate than counties that voted heavily for Biden

www.theguardian.com

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Have any real statistics like I gave about blacks and Hispanics being hardest hit by omicron or just wishful thinking on your part?

Here it is:

"red phase" covid

Republicans are dying at a rate of 3-1 vs Democrats. Mostly because of misinformation. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate This doesn't seem like a winning strategy to me.

debatepolitics.com

 

[Gateman_Wen]

That will require every single "whack job" to die

Eventually they will, or they will catch it often enough to be immune.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

I have a whole thread on it here somewhere, but here's a link to news article.

People in counties that voted Trump more likely to die from Covid – study

Areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rate than counties that voted heavily for Biden

www.theguardian.com

Not current and not specifically on omicron. Care to try again? Probably better just throw in the towel before you suffer more brain damage.

 

[Greenbeard]

I have a whole thread on it here somewhere, but here's a link to news article.

People in counties that voted Trump more likely to die from Covid – study

Areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rate than counties that voted heavily for Biden

www.theguardian.com

More true now than ever.

Red Covid, an Update (Published 2022)

The partisan gap in Covid deaths is still growing, but more slowly.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

I have a whole thread on it here somewhere, but here's a link to news article.

People in counties that voted Trump more likely to die from Covid – study

Areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had 2.7 times the death rate than counties that voted heavily for Biden

www.theguardian.com

Typical NPR half the story fake news. As Paul Harvey used to say "and here's the rest of the story"

Fact check: Has COVID-19 omicron surge been even harder on Blacks, Latinos?

There’s no question the COVID-19 pandemic has hit minorities hard — but has omicron been even tougher on them?

www.cbs17.com

 

[Rawley]

It was wrong to just declare omicron as our way out of this. Gives people a false sense of security.

You're vaxxed. Seriously, what is the danger

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

More true now than ever.

Red Covid, an Update (Published 2022)

The partisan gap in Covid deaths is still growing, but more slowly.

www.nytimes.com

Actually not.


"White people (170 cases for every 100,000 people) were catching COVID-19 at a higher rate in late November than Black people (129 cases per capita). "

"That flipped in about a month, with the rate skyrocketing for Black people (1,831) compared to whites (982) during the first week of January."



"

Fact check: Has COVID-19 omicron surge been even harder on Blacks, Latinos?

There’s no question the COVID-19 pandemic has hit minorities hard — but has omicron been even tougher on them?

www.cbs17.com

 

[Greenbeard]

Actually not.


"White people (170 cases for every 100,000 people) were catching COVID-19 at a higher rate in late November than Black people (129 cases per capita).

How to refute an article about cumulative deaths per capita by geography? I know, talk about cases by race!