I can't tell you how many innocent little atheists have succumbed to Christianity because they found themselves reciting the pledge in grade school.
Wait, yes I can... none!:roll:
Did you know that "under God" was not added to the pledge until the 1950's?
Yes! Sometimes I stay awake at night pondering whether we can blame the entire existence of modern religion on our currency and its suggestive messages.Don't forget they have to spend money too,think of how many kids have been converted because of "In God We Trust" on our money.
It is hard to believe some of the comments posted. I know my grandparents and father if they were alive would be shaking their heads.
I remember Red Skelton show growing up. He had a good take on the Pledge.
Red Skelton In The Pledge Of Allegiance on Yahoo! Video
I just don't understand what is so objectionable.
By using the capitalized "God" you actually are referring to a specific god - the Christian god.
Also the fact that the whole reason for adding "under God" in 1954 was spiritual / religions as well as political - during the Red Scare it was added to separate ourselves from the "godless" communists:
Me thinks those quick to dismiss this as nonsensical need to read a bit more between the lines.
I have heard Red say this many times and it says it all...........
One for the good guys!!!!!!!
By using the capitalized "God" you actually are referring to a specific god - the Christian god.
Capitalization
The Holy Observer: THO Guide to Christian Capitalization
Also the fact that the whole reason for adding "under God" in 1954 was spiritual / religions as well as political - during the Red Scare it was added to separate ourselves from the "godless" communists:
"Under God"--A Product of the 1950's Red Scare
Me thinks those quick to dismiss this as nonsensical need to read a bit more between the lines.
Completely inaccurate. I am Jewish and we also capitalize GOD.
well its the same god
But it does not designate any specific religion. That was HIS argument.
O! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
If "under god" in the pledge is indoctrination, it sure is a piss poor one. Even the UK, which is way more liberal than us, sings "God save the Queen." They get 4 versus of that, we only get 2 words in our pledge....yea, we are soooo indoctrinating people.
Using the term "God" is not distinct to Christianity, nor was the name Jesus, or any other Biblical figure used in our founding documents.:roll:
One other fun bit of trivia re: the Pledge adding "under God" in the 1950's.
Our official national anthem (since long before McCarthy set foot in office) is the Star Spangled Banner. While everyone knows the first verse, few know the second, third, or fourth. The fourth verse is as follows:
One would think that the purists should have no issue with removing "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance. After all, it was officially added during the McCarthy era. The original intended purpose of the Pledge is to declare one's loyalty to the United States. I don't see how religion fits into that at all considering that not everyone in this country is religious or believes in God in any form.
Does removing "under God" somehow affect your personal religious views? While many argue that it doesn't refer to a specific God, we should all at least be honest in recognizing that it was inserted to cater mostly to Christians in this country. I fail to see why we can't keep the two separate. It's no surprise to me, however, that those who are applauding this decision or referring to it as "one for the good guys" are religious. Removing "under God" has nothing to do with attacking religion. It's about returning the Pledge to it's original intended purpose, which is to show your loyalty to this country. To me, God or religion has absolutely nothing to do with that.
Because its a free country. Therefore you have to conform to it's culture! (I know, that didn't make sense to me either)
I don't care either way. The whole premise of the pledge is stupid.
I don't care either way. The whole premise of the pledge is stupid.
A sanfrancisco appeals court ruling like this almost sounds like some Bizarro world stuff. I think Newdow is pissed his wife left him and that is why he holds a grudge against something he allegedly views as imaginary.
They have to sing that so the queen will stay alive another 90 years :2razz:
Completely inaccurate. I am Jewish and we also capitalize GOD.
You do realize that the anthem has very little to do with the actual civics of the state?
One would think that the purists should have no issue with removing "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance. After all, it was officially added during the McCarthy era. The original intended purpose of the Pledge is to declare one's loyalty to the United States. I don't see how religion fits into that at all considering that not everyone in this country is religious or believes in God in any form.
Does removing "under God" somehow affect your personal religious views? While many argue that it doesn't refer to a specific God, we should all at least be honest in recognizing that it was inserted to cater mostly to Christians in this country. I fail to see why we can't keep the two separate. It's no surprise to me, however, that those who are applauding this decision or referring to it as "one for the good guys" are religious. Removing "under God" has nothing to do with attacking religion. It's about returning the Pledge to it's original intended purpose, which is to show your loyalty to this country. To me, God or religion has absolutely nothing to do with that.
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