Navy Pride
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So far the courts have disagreed with this assessment, and with very good reason. Further, the question becomes what happens when DOMA is struck down? Can a state refuse to accept another states marraige? The potential problems with that are huge.
Proof once again that activist judge = one who rules in a way you don't like. Come on NP, like last time, I dare you to show me where in the ruling you disagree with the judges reasoning. Will you accept the challenge this time, or will you avoid it again.
Redress, how are you? I wonder if you were aware that 31 states have constitutional amendments defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman. When and amendment was on the ballot it has never been defeated except in Arizona who also included civil unions. Oh and there will be more states with amendments on their ballots in Nov.
Overthrowing, hi-jacking, filibustering the will of the people has become modern day politics. It's only cool to do that when it's done for something one approves of. After that, it's activist.
Navy is right I think. I seem to recall that court is often in hot water and challenged. Moreso than any other court I can recall. i wouldn't start actually counting chickens just yet but it is time to round the chickens up and get them ready to count. The ideological opinion in cross-section America is just about to tip in the favor of SSM and judging by the tolerance trend, it should be happening any day now. Won't be long now.
So far the courts have disagreed with this assessment, and with very good reason. Further, the question becomes what happens when DOMA is struck down? Can a state refuse to accept another states marraige? The potential problems with that are huge.
and I dare uou to show me where the issue was put on the ballot of any state the gay marriage people won.
and I dare uou to show me where the issue was put on the ballot of any state the gay marriage people won.
Proof once again that activist judge = one who rules in a way you don't like. Come on NP, like last time, I dare you to show me where in the ruling you disagree with the judges reasoning. Will you accept the challenge this time, or will you avoid it again.
Overthrowing, hi-jacking, filibustering the will of the people has become modern day politics. It's only cool to do that when it's done for something one approves of. After that, it's activist.
Navy is right I think. I seem to recall that court is often in hot water and challenged. Moreso than any other court I can recall. i wouldn't start actually counting chickens just yet but it is time to round the chickens up and get them ready to count. The ideological opinion in cross-section America is just about to tip in the favor of SSM and judging by the tolerance trend, it should be happening any day now. Won't be long now.
Can you give me and example where I sided with activist juges..........surely not on abortion or gay marriage.
You're right. How dare we let people decide for themselves what marriage is and who they can marry!!! The majority always knows better.
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That's partially because we are not a strict democracy, but rather a democratic republic. There will always be challenges of this nature and need to be, the majority cannot infringe upon the rights of the minority and we review cases as such. Perchance the SCOTUS will reverse it, but that is the process we have. The majority is not king.
Why have referdums or elections if activist judges are just going yo over rule the outcome. (Confused)
Yes, exactly. :thumbs:
Why have referdums or elections if activist judges are just going yo over rule the outcome. (Confused)
For those who oppose this, may I ask why? How does it effect you? Why do you care what two people do?
Just looking for something to sink my teeth into.So glad you asked, Angel.
Regarding "it applies the protections of marriage to some couples and not others", I can see where that is indeed a significant matter.Banning same sex marriage violates the constitution because, as has been discussed in this thread, it applies the protections of marriage to some couples and not others, solely on the basis of discriminating against homosexuals. If there is going to be a law that affects the liberties of some people and not others, especially ones directly involving the government, there must be some compelling external reason. This is how the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment works. The law, both federal and state, is not allowed to arbitrarily discriminate. If it wishes to discriminate, it must prove that it has a good reason. No such reason has ever surfaced.
I am aware of that. However, the times, they are a changing. It is quite possible that SSM will be legal across the country within 5 years. Are you ready? I am.
What people will say-Because the sanctity of marriage is at stake, the integrity of the American family, and we must keep the values that has made America great.
What they really mean- Gays are icky, and disgusting, except lesbians are okay in my porn.
Well more states are opting for and amendment defining gay marraige as a union between a man and a woman. Nope as a practicing Catholic I will never be ready to say that the blessed sacrament of marraige should include 2 men, 2 women, 1 man and 2 women, a brother and sister in a non sexual union for the benefits, same for a father and daughter or a mother and son al in non sexual relationships..........That is just me though Redress and don't come back and tell me that can't happen because it can.
The court is challenged and overturned more on a numberical basis. It is also the business court in the country. By percentages, it is pretty close to normal.
Again you evade the challenge. You called the judge in this case activist. Surely you can show where his ruling is flawed.
It was a 2-1 verdict. 8 Judges were not involved.........Let the SCOTUS decide this....If they vote for gay marriage you won't here me complain again on the issue, can you and your left wing friends say the same?
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