Loxd4
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Kandahar said:Of course a woman could become president. Lots of other liberal democracies have had female presidents, and even some very sexist societies like India and Pakistan have had female presidents. So why WOULDN'T a woman be able to become president here?
Frankly I think it's highly unlikely that anyone other than Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic nomination in 2008, and she has a better than 50-50 chance of beating her Republican opponent in the general election.
In 2008 or 2012 could Hillary Clinton or Condoleezza Rice become president.
Or could or should a woman be president? Please Give Reasons
Ethereal said:Could they become President? Yes. Will they? Absolutely not. First of all a woman would never get elected while in the midst of a military campaign, especially one as substantial as the War On Terror. Secondly, they would get annihilated in the South for obvious reasons.
Furthermore, Hillary is entirely too Liberal to have a serious chance of getting elected. Her policy on the Second Amendment and abortion would basically lose her the South and a great majority of midwestern, working class, Christians.
Lastly, Condi hasn't the slightest chance in Hell of becoming the President. Simply because there is way too much baggage left over from her soon to be previous administration. Any opponent would have endless amounts of cannon fodder to tear Condi into pieces. But then again Liberals are famous for running campaigns that bring ineptitude to new levels, so you never know.
Why not? As long as her policies were in line with mine and she seemed resolute and sincere in her beliefs I would vote for her.
I don't think the south or certain parts of the midwest would vote for a female candidate.Kelzie said:If Pakistan can elect a female PM, I have hope for the South.
I don't think Condi has a chance because she's never been elected for public office.
And Bill won. Twice. Obviously his abortion stance didn't hurt him too much.
Then I am here to open your eyes. Yes, the south will vote for a woman. The South already has it's share of women in power. Ideology counts before sex. Or race, for that matter. Miz Rice would beat any Democrat in a general election down here. If you or anyone sees the South as an impediment to a successful campaign by a woman, that would seem to be more from the belief in a stereotype and not reality.scottyz said:I don't think the south or certain parts of the midwest would vote for a female candidate.
galenrox said:It's funny cause the only person I know who said s/he wouldn't vote for a woman president under any circumstances was a girl who went to an all girl's school for a while. She said she knew how crazy women are, and isn't in denial about it, and thus she couldn't put one of them in charge.
Calm2Chaos said:My GF says the same thing. Woman are emotional, and emotions can be a dangerous thing. Specialy if those emotions are turned up a couple days a week.
Not like a woman becomes president its peace and love time. I believe almost every woman that has led a major nation has led that nation into war. Course I could be wrong, I read that someplace a long time ago
I don't think they would vote for Rice either.hiker said:Then I am here to open your eyes. Yes, the south will vote for a woman. The South already has it's share of women in power. Ideology counts before sex. Or race, for that matter. Miz Rice would beat any Democrat in a general election down here. If you or anyone sees the South as an impediment to a successful campaign by a woman, that would seem to be more from the belief in a stereotype and not reality.
Now as for Hillary, a snowball has better odds on the devil's kitchen table.:rofl
The rumours are that Bush is pretty emotional and always going into angry fits.Kelzie said:Not all women are emotional. Some men are emotional. Stereotypes suck. And realistically, the type of women that is able to get to that position of power is probably not going to be one ruled by emotions.
Kelzie said:I don't think Benazir led Pakistan into the war. At least not both times she was PM.
Not all women are emotional. Some men are emotional. Stereotypes suck. And realistically, the type of women that is able to get to that position of power is probably not going to be one ruled by emotions.
Kelzie said:I don't think Benazir led Pakistan into the war. At least not both times she was PM.
Not all women are emotional. Some men are emotional. Stereotypes suck. And realistically, the type of women that is able to get to that position of power is probably not going to be one ruled by emotions.
Loxd4 said:What do you mean "PM"? If you mean "PMS" :hammer: if that's the case women should not be allowed to be president if "PMS" gets in the way. And i know they'll be 35 but they still can get pregnant. If that happens then the topic about abortion will be brougth up again and that's not what we need to be thinking about in a president. We don't need to have a president to be an emotional wreck and get all weepy eyed just because somebody says something to her. She needs to be focused at all time and a crying baby is a major problem when she is trying to address the nation.:lol:
Loxd4 said:What do you mean "PM"? If you mean "PMS" :hammer: if that's the case women should not be allowed to be president if "PMS" gets in the way. And i know they'll be 35 but they still can get pregnant. If that happens then the topic about abortion will be brougth up again and that's not what we need to be thinking about in a president. We don't need to have a president to be an emotional wreck and get all weepy eyed just because somebody says something to her. She needs to be focused at all time and a crying baby is a major problem when she is trying to address the nation.:lol:
Calm2Chaos said:It's not a sterotype its the truth, woman as a whole are emotional beings. Because a few aren't is no reason to automaticaly slap the fix all sterotype lable on it.
Loxd4 said::2wave: Just kidding about whole "PMS" thing. :3oops: i was only trying to make you laugh and think. :2wave:
I think that generally society discourages men from being emotional but encourages women to be emotional. If a man shows his emotions it's taken as a sign of weakness, but that doesn't mean they aren't personally driven by them as much as women.Kelzie said:I really don't believe this at all. My seven year-old sister is emotional. Then again, so is my 9 year-old brother.
"Emotional" is just a term that society has tagged on women and expect them to live up to it. None of the girls in my class have started crying. Or yelling. Or verbally attacking others. Yet several of the guys have. But I am not about to tack the label emotional on them.
scottyz said:I think that generally society discourages men from being emotional but encourages women to be emotional. If a man shows his emotions it's taken as a sign of weakness, but that doesn't mean they aren't personally driven by them as much as women.
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