Cops lead with Violence, Citizen in Coma

[Tucker Case]

Who makes up the "Blue Wall"?

Papa Smurf, Handy Surf, and Vanity Smurf.

Brainy smurf is always hiding behind the blue wall.

 

[Bodi]

Originally Posted by Voidwar
I have no problem if ... she is killed for her lack of compliance. Rights are things I will absolutely kill over.

right outa the horses mouth... :lol:

 

[Voidwar]

Of course, this also, is not realted to this thread either.

That quote is taken from a thread with an entirely different OP.

 

[Bodi]

Of course, this also, is not realted to this thread either.

That quote is taken from a thread with an entirely different OP.

Too bad that you don't understand that this quote has been circulated around a few of the different threads as proof that you hate cops. *shrugs*

 

[Voidwar]

Too bad that you don't understand that this quote has been circulated around a few of the different threads as proof that you hate cops. *shrugs*

It is not proof of that. Its proof that I will kill one to defend myself, and I approve of my fellow citizen's right to defend themselves as well.

 

[Bodi]

It is not proof of that. Its proof that I will kill one to defend myself, and I approve of my fellow citizen's right to defend themselves as well.

Ok then... proof that you suppor the murder to cops, or people, that you feel deserve to die for "infringing" your right by exercising their role in upholding law. *shrugs*

 

[Voidwar]

Ok then... proof that you suppor the murder to cops,

Self defense isn't murder.

 

[Caine]

Self defense isn't murder.

And was the officer trying to KILL in that situation when you spoke of supporting her murder?

 

[Voidwar]

And was the officer trying to KILL in that situation when you spoke of supporting her murder?

I never spoke of supporting her murder. I support the citizen's right to defend themselves. successfully, with all the force their attacker makes necessary.

 

[Tucker Case]

I never spoke of supporting her murder. I support the citizen's right to defend themselves. successfully, with all the force their attacker makes necessary.

Question: does a speeding ticket constitute lethal force? I've always thought "yes" but Caine has convinced me that it's at best a "maybe".

 

[Voidwar]

Question: does a speeding ticket constitute

It constitutes legitimate business. The Constitution does not expressly prohibit speeding tickets. The Constitution does expressly prohibit unreasonable search and siezure, and does expressly prohibit infringement of the right to keep and bear.

 

[Caine]

It constitutes legitimate business. The Constitution does not expressly prohibit speeding tickets. The Constitution does expressly prohibit unreasonable search and siezure, and does expressly prohibit infringement of the right to keep and bear.

Judges are laughing at your Constitutional ineptitude.

 

[Voidwar]

Judges are laughing at your Constitutional ineptitude.

I'm laughing at theirs, and unfortunately for them I have the Constitution in my corner, because it does say Shall Not be infringed, and it does say :

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 

[Caine]

I'm laughing at theirs, and unfortunately for them I have the Constitution in my corner, because it does say Shall Not be infringed, and it does say :

Wow, you really are inept.

Carry on with your own imaginary world.

I'll trust the judges that have been working on the bench for the last 2 centuries over your interpretation.

 

[Voidwar]

Wow, you really are inept.

Ad hominem and fails to address my point.

Carry on with your own imaginary world.

Another ad hominem with no content.

I'll trust the judges that have been working on the bench for the last 2 centuries over your interpretation.

Not my interpretation, its a direct quote.

Trust the people who said the earth was flat before Galileo then, they had been saying it so much longer than that upstart :roll:

 

[Caine]

Ad hominem and fails to address my point.



Another ad hominem with no content.



Not my interpretation, its a direct quote.

Trust the people who said the earth was flat before Galileo then, they had been saying it so much longer than that upstart :roll:

So you are saying you are an expert in constitutional law with more knowledge than the judges who were elected by the Presidents of the United States to work on the Supreme Court?

 

[Voidwar]

So you are saying you are an expert in constitutional law with more knowledge than the judges who were elected by the Presidents of the United States to work on the Supreme Court?

As for the above, it is a strawman that YOU manufactured, or can you quote me saying what you typed ?

 

[Bodi]

It constitutes legitimate business. The Constitution does not expressly prohibit speeding tickets. The Constitution does expressly prohibit unreasonable search and siezure, and does expressly prohibit infringement of the right to keep and bear.

So the cop can reasonably detain the citizen until a search warrant can be drafted, or at the very least, address info must be given so that a warrant can be served later then, right?

 

[Bodi]

Self defense isn't murder.

A cop talking or attempting to detain a person does not contstitute a need for self defense.

 

[Voidwar]

So the cop can reasonably detain the citizen until a search warrant can be drafted, or at the very least, address info must be given so that a warrant can be served later then, right?

Detain for what, you lying flip-flopper ?

 

[Voidwar]

A cop talking or attempting to detain a person does not contstitute a need for self defense.

Tell it to the boy in the Coma in the OP.

Think he will hear you ?

 

[Bodi]

Not my interpretation, its a direct quote.

Trust the people who said the earth was flat before Galileo then, they had been saying it so much longer than that upstart :roll:

And this is something that you have failed to address...
The simplicity of English Language Interpretation...

You misinterpreted multiple things that I have said, how can you reasonably turn around and say that something that many intelligent people say deems interpretation, the 2nd Amendment, does not qualify? Seriously... no insults or anything... You grossly misinterpreted what I said, and then say that there is not an intepretation issue. It seems obvious that there is an interpretation issue, I, and everyone else including you fall into this catagory...

 

[Bodi]

Tell it to the boy in the Coma in the OP.

Think he will hear you ?

Talking in generalities here, not that one case.
And remember, I call for the termination and/or imprisonment of bad cops...

 

[Bodi]

Detain for what, you lying flip-flopper ?

Carrying a weapon in a suspicious manner, a known criminal carrying a weapon, carrying a weapon without a permit, etc etc.

 

[Voidwar]

You misinterpreted multiple things that I have said,

No, I did not. Your inability to communicate concisely is not a failing on my part. Whether you meant what you typed is another question, but I haven't misunderstood a damn thing.

how can you reasonably turn around and say that something that many intelligent people say deems interpretation,

Intelligent people don't. They know the difference between a dependent clause and an independent one, and the content of relevant ancillary writings of the founders.