:lamo: thanks for that one....now that's funny right there...only thing better is if you'd have said once engaged with the app an ACLU liberal parachutes directly to the scene....hahahahaha
... the ACLU has defended police officers all over the US. They have also defend civilians when their rights are violated by cops.
You said you don't condone the cops actions, and then went on to scold a poster. And you said you're surprised that a liberal from the ACLU didn't parachute down.
So if I grab someone's phone and break it will I just get a reprimand. Of course not. Why is the cop heals to a lower standard than an ordinary citizen. How do you not see a problem with this.
So, you're denying that police abuse exists, and the press is cherry picking, I see.
I don't care what you think
we have a problem in America with police corruption, brutality, and abuse,
and we are going to get this resolved.
Have you noticed the response to all this from foreign posters here.
Btw, are you a cop?
What straw man did I create.
As to what punishment he should get, in my opinion he should get the same punishment that your average citizen would get. Also if I was the chief and this particular cop had shown the slightest type of behavior before he would be fired. If he can not be trusted to act according to the law than he sure as hell shouldn't be a cop.
Whatever punishments deemed appropriate by a judge or jury based on the laws that may have been broken. Looks to me like assault, robbery, and possibly a first amendment violation. For starters.
California penal code (240) prescribes up to six months jail for simple assault and a 1k fine. I think there are several other potential charges. Use google if you want to start adding it up. Also this man should face whatever penalties are drawn up in LA sherrifs conduct rules.
You think what he did is OK?
It seems that example after example after example keeps popping up and yet some people still can't seem to grasp that there's an issue here that needs to see the light of day.
... the ACLU has defended police officers all over the US. They have also defend civilians when their rights are violated by cops.
It never ceases to amaze me how little so many conservatives know about what the ACLU actually does.
I said I didn't condone the cop's actions...But, let me just say again...The woman was too close to the action the police were undertaking. Now, if the woman wants to file charges for assault, destruction of property, or anything else then she is free to do that, and a court can sort it out....But, just as it isn't for him to take the action he did, it isn't for you to decide whether or not he should be jailed or not...So, tell me, do you know if charges were filed?
See, this is the problem I have with a story like this. You get a video snippet, and a one, or two sentence story, then the faux outrage starts....If something in this operation had gone wrong and say a stray bullet would have come out and killed the woman, then you'd be hollering that the police had an obligation to make sure she wasn't in the immediate vicinity of the operation for safety....so they can't win with you..All you want to do is smear, and bitch about cops...So, I'm not all convinced that your outrage is genuine.
They do have their favorite types of cases, but if you look at their work in total they really are all over the map.It never ceases to amaze me how little so many conservatives know about what the ACLU actually does.
If all you've seen is 5 then you're not paying attention to the world around you.Issue, after issue is media driven to gin up the masses....How many police forces are in the US today? How many cops are on the job? Millions? You have what is it now, 5 reports on the news and all of the sudden we are in crisis? Nah, this is just how the Alinsky left thinks they are effective at forcing change...Create a crisis, then as Emmanuel said, "Never let a crisis go to waste".... What I want to know is what do the anti police people want? Anarchy?
Ok, I give you that...So reprimand the cop...Does this really need an entire thread other than to continue the smear of police today?
When you posted: "So what you are saying is that if you may have broke the law it is ok for the cop to determine guilt and dish out punishment all on his own."
That's NOT what I said, and you damned well know it....That sir is a strawman argument, and you'd do better not to try to put words in peoples mouths.
Then let her go down and file charges...I am certain that the department would take that very seriously.
I think any rational person would take that to mean you are justifying what the cop did and that the fault rests on the woman. Add that in with the rest of your posts defending the cop and I think most people would take it the same way I did.Again....proximity is the key here....Don't want that to happen? I'd suggest you don't make yourself a pest by trying to capture your footage so close to what is happening.
Watch: LAPD deputy snatches woman's cellphone - One News Page VIDEO
More over the top actions by police who somehow believe they are above the law.
Note: The way she's holding the device and the loudness of the smash on the ground leads me to suspect it wasn't a cell phone, but as Today as reported a "camera".
We generally don't disagree. However, I don't come from an expectation that police are unreasonably or unnecessarily violent with members of the public just for the fun of it. When an officer becomes unreasonably or unnecessarily violent, I expect him/her to be handled accordingly through internal discipline or through the criminal or civil law. However, I also come from an expectation that the vast majority of the time the police act reasonably and necessarily when interacting with members of the public.
Where I strongly disagree with your comments is your apparent assumption that only those who are white and affluent have good relationships with police and that those who reside in inner city neighbourhoods and are minorities naturally have bad/disrespectful/distrustful relationships with police.
In my view, the vast majority of minorities in inner city neighbourhoods have very good relationships with the police because in many cases they rely on the police for their safety and a semblance of normalcy in their neighbourhoods. Without them, they know they'd be living under the control of criminals and gangs. Good, honest, respectful people are in the vast majority in pretty much every neighbourhood.
So what does the law state is the appropriate distance she had to be away from the officers. Also why should she have to file charges for assault were there not plenty of L/E there that witnessed it. If some random citizen had done what that cop did to another citizen in front of a bunch of cops do you honestly think none of the cops would have done something like they did in this instance. We both know the answer to that.
Nice job making up arguments and coming up with my positions for me though. If they lady was to close and caught a bullet forms bad guy I would have no problems with it. I do not expect the police to protect people from their own stupidity. What I do expect is our police to be held to the same standards that ordinary citizens are held to. Which sadly does not happen to often.
I rarely complain about cops and if calling them out for breaking the law is smearing them then we have bigger problems. So why don't you stop being dishonest and putting words in mouth.
If all you've seen is 5 then you're not paying attention to the world around you.
If you think that the only cases are those which you see, then you are choosing to be willfully ignorant.
It's not a smear, it's just further documentation of how out of control some of the police force has gotten in the modern world. We need to not only be aware of this, we need to start punishing. Government must be kept within its constraints.
When you say things like I think any rational person would take that to mean you are justifying what the cop did and that the fault rests on the woman. Add that in with the rest of your posts defending the cop and I think most people would take it the same way I did.
And as I said before, why should she have to go down to the station to file a complaint. Plenty of other officers witnessed the cop break the law. If some random citizen had done that we all know the police would have acted right there on the spot.
Who is the mythical "We" that you speak of? The mob? You personally? Who? And So, once you've neutered the police or done away with them, do you see a safer America?
People vote for politicians who campaign that they are "tough on crime" people who vote like that....Not all are authoritarians like you try to paint them, they just want to be safe.
Well, no warning and destruction of property. I think the woman should get a new phone paid by that specific police officer.
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