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Cop Chokes Helpless Student

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Tennessee deputy fired after photos emerge showing him appear to choke student during arrest  - NY Daily News

A Tennessee deputy photographed while apparently choking a university student until he passed out has been fired and his two deputies have reportedly been placed on paid leave.
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More routine and typical excessive force from a thug in a uniform. Fortunately he was fired instead of being "placed on paid leave". Maybe the country is finally getting tired of giving police brutality a free pass.
 
reinoe said:
Tennessee deputy fired after photos emerge showing him appear to choke student during arrest* - NY Daily News



More routine and typical excessive force from a thug in a uniform. Fortunately he was fired instead of being "placed on paid leave". Maybe the country is finally getting tired of giving police brutality a free pass.
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There are 765,000+ sworn police officers in the United States. Many of them deal with the dregs of humanity on a daily basis. They're lied to, threatened and endangered as part of their job description. Some of them go rogue. As long as departments effectively address these incidents, we simply must support them. It appears that happened here.

Edit: This is exactly why every single police officer in the United States should be wearing audio/visual recording equipment at all times. That's gotta' happen.
 
Not just fired but that cop should be on trial for attempted murder, you know how dangerous a choke attack like that is?
 
GottaGo said:
Fired, as he should have been.
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"As he should have been"?

If you and I and another guy got together and you two held our victim immobile while I choked him unconscious we'd be facing simple assault and battery charges and probably unlawful restraint. The prosecutor and chief of police, looking to demonstrate how tough on crime they were, would probably trump those charges up to the felony level and leave it to us to prove that the charges should be reduced.

That's what "should have" happened here.

All three cops should have been fired.

All three cops should have been arrested.

All three cops should be facing felony charges.

What did happen is better than things being swept under the rug, as so often happens when cops are the perpetrators of crimes, but the fact that none of them spent any time in a jail cell waiting for their lawyer and their wife to bail them out is a gross miscarriage of justice.
 
MaggieD said:
There are 765,000+ sworn police officers in the United States. Many of them deal with the dregs of humanity on a daily basis. They're lied to, threatened and endangered as part of their job description. Some of them go rogue. As long as departments effectively address these incidents, we simply must support them. It appears that happened here.

Edit: This is exactly why every single police officer in the United States should be wearing audio/visual recording equipment at all times. That's gotta' happen.
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I think that many people would benefit from watching cop shows from around the Western world. Cops from the USA shows American cops as far more aggressive, far more willing to turn a minor matter into a personal one, far more willing to arrest for the most minor of offenses even after telling the suspect that they will help them out if they are honest and much more likely to endanger innocent people than cops from England, Australia, New Zealand or Ireland.
 
I'm more concerned with what this says about the moral virtue of our society. A lot of people saw what could have been a murder, and yet no one did anything substantial to stop it.

 
in my fine town of knoxville, tennessee.

many things were wrong all the way around here, from the police to the party goers.

too many damn dumb asses in one spot!!
 
Paleocon said:
I'm more concerned with what this says about the moral virtue of our society. A lot of people saw what could have been a murder, and yet no one did anything substantial to stop it.

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I've often thought of that. I've seen Marines intervene when the MPs were going out of bounds. And I know, regardless of the consequences, that I would without hesitation come to the aid of my wife or father if the police were going out of bounds with them.
 
Here's another police officer choking an innocent victim:

 
Jango said:
I've often thought of that. I've seen Marines intervene when the MPs were going out of bounds. And I know, regardless of the consequences, that I would without hesitation come to the aid of my wife or father if the police were going out of bounds with them.
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And it's even worse because there were a bunch of them, it's reasonably certain that they would have succeeded if they had tried to stop the police brutality.
 
Paleocon said:
And it's even worse because there were a bunch of them, it's reasonably certain that they would have succeeded if they had tried to stop the police brutality.
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Yeah, I know man. The downside to intervention against 'men that carry guns and enforce rules/laws' is getting shot and then prosecuted if you survive being shot.
 
Jango said:
Yeah, I know man. The downside to intervention against 'men that carry guns and enforce rules/laws' is getting shot and then prosecuted if you survive being shot.
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And the downside to not intervening can be the death of another person. And you'd have to live with that.
 
Paleocon said:
And the downside to not intervening can be the death of another person. And you'd have to live with that.
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Right, it's definitely a 'between a rock and a hard place' scenario.
 
Jango said:
Right, it's definitely a 'between a rock and a hard place' scenario.
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It's what I call a false moral dilemma. A situation that people like to describe as a moral dilemma, but where the morality of the situation is actually not ambiguous, just hard.
 
Jango said:
Here's another police officer choking an innocent victim:

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I sure hope the guy sent the video in to the Chief.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I think that many people would benefit from watching cop shows from around the Western world. Cops from the USA shows American cops as far more aggressive, far more willing to turn a minor matter into a personal one, far more willing to arrest for the most minor of offenses even after telling the suspect that they will help them out if they are honest and much more likely to endanger innocent people than cops from England, Australia, New Zealand or Ireland.
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I've seen quite a few of those, and for the most part they just let offenders go and/or are so hampered by the rules they cannot apprehend the offenders in the first place. They count an awful lot on CCTV and their society's gimmee programs. They know eventually everyone will come by with their hands out and they can apprehend them then. The problem of course is that the offenders just keep on offending knowing that even when they are truly caught nothing will happen.
 
clownboy said:
I've seen quite a few of those, and for the most part they just let offenders go and/or are so hampered by the rules they cannot apprehend the offenders in the first place. They count an awful lot on CCTV and their society's gimmee programs. They know eventually everyone will come by with their hands out and they can apprehend them then. The problem of course is that the offenders just keep on offending knowing that even when they are truly caught nothing will happen.
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The entire affair is much more cordial in other countries... rarely do you see a car chase or cop/suspect fight over an bit of weed. They just give it up and get a warning... no shooting. No tasing over and over.
 
PoS said:
Not just fired but that cop should be on trial for attempted murder, you know how dangerous a choke attack like that is?
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fired, yes. Lawsuit yes. Being prosecuted for physical violence against also yes, but attempted murder? Manslaughter at best because I doubt he had the intention to kill this guy.
 
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