Cop Challenge

[reinoe]

Can we go one week without hearing about some new cop misconduct story?

I'm gonna say no.

 

[NonoBadDog]

Can we go one week without hearing about some new cop misconduct story?

I'm gonna say no.

Want me to find one for ya?

 

[Chomsky]

Can we go one week without hearing about some new cop misconduct story?

I'm gonna say no.

If you're tired of 'misconduct', we can always call it: 'justifiable'.

 

[X Factor]

That sounds about as likely as the resident cop haters actually acknowledging that some cop, somewhere, actually did something good. "Misconduct" is often in the eye of the beholder and I don't think I've ever seen the OP express support for any action taken by a police officer, no matter what it was.

 

[reinoe]

That sounds about as likely as the resident cop haters actually acknowledging that some cop, somewhere, actually did something good. "Misconduct" is often in the eye of the beholder and I don't think I've ever seen the OP express support for any action taken by a police officer, no matter what it was.

I expressed great support for the Dylan Taylor shooter, unlike you who remained silent.

 

[chromium]

1) There's probably a million cops in this country, so saying one out there does something outrageous every week means nothing.

2) The reason you hear about it as opposed to a corrupt foreman is the same reason you hear about *certain kinds* of cop misconduct, like a black victim. It's just the media being whores as usual

Both sides are so ridiculously reactionary. On one hand you have the "**** cops, anarchy rulez!" wannabe gangsters who completely ignore 1). OTOH you have the apologists who also can never admit when a cop crossed the line and who completely ignore 2)

 

[X Factor]

I expressed great support for the Dylan Taylor shooter, unlike you who remained silent.

And I'm sure your really meant it. :lol: Even if that's true, a couple posts where you try to come off like you're not a complete hater (aka lip service) does not negate the vast majority of what you post. I bet I have more post supportive of Obama than you have that are supportive of police officers yet I'm hardly an Obama supporter.

 

[reinoe]

Florida cop Andrew Halpin suspended after throwing food at handcuffed suspect | Daily Mail Online

Three days. That was a lot longer than I anticipated.

 

[blackjack50]

Can we go one week without hearing about some new cop misconduct story?

I'm gonna say no.

Can we go a week without someone breaking the law?

 

[blackjack50]

That sounds about as likely as the resident cop haters actually acknowledging that some cop, somewhere, actually did something good. "Misconduct" is often in the eye of the beholder and I don't think I've ever seen the OP express support for any action taken by a police officer, no matter what it was.

For that matter...I don't think I have either. You are right. They will find something...ANYTHING to justify misconduct. Take Darren Wilson. He was guilty of misconduct and outright murder...OH WAIT! No...forensics cleared him. Never mind. Let's not bring that one up anymore.

 

[reinoe]

For that matter...I don't think I have either. You are right. They will find something...ANYTHING to justify misconduct. Take Darren Wilson. He was guilty of misconduct and outright murder...OH WAIT! No...forensics cleared him. Never mind. Let's not bring that one up anymore.

Speaking of not bringing that up, I have never brougt it up and I only see cop apologists bringing it up. What happened during the shooting is questionable precisely because police refuse to wear body cameras and there were conflicting witnesses. Speaking of "in the eye of the beholder" I can't help but notice that you don't have anything to say about cops treating the homeless worse than dogs or cops standing around in the background not doing anything to stop it. You certainly have lots to say about things that have nothing to do with the topic though. Congratulations on your attempt to thread derail I guess.

 

[gdgyva]

In my previous posts, I used the NLEOMF figure of “more than 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States…the highest figure ever.” I did this for several reasons.

By the Numbers: How Many Cops Are There In the USA? – The Skeptical Libertarian | Blog

and if you read more of what he writes, he isnt sure that is even accurate

so can say a MILLION people doing a very hard job stay out of the 24 hour news cycle for a week?

when the question is posed that way.....seems a little different

especially with so many people seeming to try to get cops on video doing something stupid

 

[blackjack50]

Speaking of not bringing that up, I have never brougt it up and I only see cop apologists bringing it up.

Because the cop haters know it is a bad idea to bring up a losing subject where they jumped on board the save MB train ONLY because he was black.

What happened during the shooting is questionable precisely because police refuse to wear body cameras and there were conflicting witnesses.

It is only questionable to those who don't bother to look at the evidence and we are getting body cameras. They are being tested. As they SHOULD be tested.

Speaking of "in the eye of the beholder" I can't help but notice that you don't have anything to say about cops treating the homeless worse than dogs or cops standing around in the background not doing anything to stop it.

Because I haven't been confronted with it. Maybe you haven't noticed this phenomenon, but it is hard for someone to speak on a topic when they actually have 0 knowledge that it even occurred. Obviously that isn't a problem for you I prefer to stick to topics I've actually heard about.

You certainly have lots to say about things that have nothing to do with the topic though. Congratulations on your attempt to thread derail I guess.

Oh. No. This is plenty on topic. You wanted to cry about how cops do bad things. I talked on a couple of points : 1) Some of those "bad things" are in the eye of the beholder (and sometimes patently false)...as another poster mentioned. 2) I introduced a specific relevant and recent topic of when that occurred. And I could introduce other incidents. But that one is the simplest case to introduce because it is...as I pointed out above... A slam dunk.

As another posted stated: there are what? A million cops out there? To condemn the entire group because you don't recognize how the news works? Come on dude. It seems to me that it just bothers you that not everyone is vehemently and irrationally anti cop

 

[reinoe]

Because the cop haters know it is a bad idea to bring up a losing subject where they jumped on board the save MB train ONLY because he was black.



It is only questionable to those who don't bother to look at the evidence and we are getting body cameras. They are being tested. As they SHOULD be tested.



Because I haven't been confronted with it. Maybe you haven't noticed this phenomenon, but it is hard for someone to speak on a topic when they actually have 0 knowledge that it even occurred. Obviously that isn't a problem for you I prefer to stick to topics I've actually heard about.



Oh. No. This is plenty on topic. You wanted to cry about how cops do bad things. I talked on a couple of points : 1) Some of those "bad things" are in the eye of the beholder (and sometimes patently false)...as another poster mentioned. 2) I introduced a specific relevant and recent topic of when that occurred. And I could introduce other incidents. But that one is the simplest case to introduce because it is...as I pointed out above... A slam dunk.

As another posted stated: there are what? A million cops out there? To condemn the entire group because you don't recognize how the news works? Come on dude. It seems to me that it just bothers you that not everyone is vehemently and irrationally anti cop

1) There is no "anymore" for me because I never talked about Micheal Brown in the first place. You acknowledge that "the cop haters" did and I agree. I don't hate the police so I'm glad you've finally acknowledged that albeit indirectly.

2) I don't know what Micheal Brown's case has to do with police misconduct so I don't know why you're bringing it up. It's entirely off-topic. You're desperate attempt to make it seem relevant doesn't mean it's relevant. It's a classical strawman/deflection strategy.

3) You said you weren't confronted with a video about a police treating a homeless man worse than a dog. Now you have and you're still silent.

 

[Caine]

Speaking of not bringing that up, I have never brougt it up and I only see cop apologists bringing it up. What happened during the shooting is questionable precisely because police refuse to wear body cameras and there were conflicting witnesses. Speaking of "in the eye of the beholder" I can't help but notice that you don't have anything to say about cops treating the homeless worse than dogs or cops standing around in the background not doing anything to stop it. You certainly have lots to say about things that have nothing to do with the topic though. Congratulations on your attempt to thread derail I guess.

So police "refuse to wear body cameras" because their departments are too cheap to purchase the cameras, storage devices, software, hardware, and maintenance for them?

So it is the individual officers that you should fault for the department/city budget office decided that its not in the budget.



If this is how you debate the actual issues of the officers actions themselves...... I can safely call you someone that blames the officer first.

 

[blackjack50]

1) There is no "anymore" for me because I never talked about Micheal Brown in the first place. You acknowledge that "the cop haters" did and I agree. I don't hate the police so I'm glad you've finally acknowledged that albeit indirectly

Eyeroll.

2) I don't know what Micheal Brown's case has to do with police misconduct so I don't know why you're bringing it up. It's entirely off-topic. You're desperate attempt to make it seem relevant doesn't mean it's relevant. It's a classical strawman/deflection strategy.

It has to do with the fact that people accuse cops before they have the facts. Not off topic. The topic is about misconduct. Well...part of recognizing what is going on is know what the hell represents misconduct.

You said you weren't confronted with a video about a police treating a homeless man worse than a dog. Now you have and you're still silent.

no. I still haven't been.

 

[MickeyW]

If you're tired of 'misconduct', we can always call it: 'justifiable'.

And many times...it is!

 

[Winchester]

Can we go one week without hearing about some new cop misconduct story?

I'm gonna say no.

Too many cops, too little news... so no.

 

[MickeyW]

1) There's probably a million cops in this country, so saying one out there does something outrageous every week means nothing.

2) The reason you hear about it as opposed to a corrupt foreman is the same reason you hear about *certain kinds* of cop misconduct, like a black victim. It's just the media being whores as usual

Both sides are so ridiculously reactionary. On one hand you have the "**** cops, anarchy rulez!" wannabe gangsters who completely ignore 1). OTOH you have the apologists who also can never admit when a cop crossed the line and who completely ignore 2)

Good points!

 

[MickeyW]

Florida cop Andrew Halpin suspended after throwing food at handcuffed suspect | Daily Mail Online

Three days. That was a lot longer than I anticipated.

Tossing food? No ****? BFD!

Those calories gotta hurt bro....

 

[MickeyW]

Can we go a week without someone breaking the law?

For that matter...I don't think I have either. You are right. They will find something...ANYTHING to justify misconduct. Take Darren Wilson. He was guilty of misconduct and outright murder...OH WAIT! No...forensics cleared him. Never mind. Let's not bring that one up anymore.

Good posts...and Spot On!

 

[gdgyva]

take a million mailmen

or a million nurses

or a million cashiers

wanna bet that one out of them gets arrested for something stupid in a weeks time

/thread fail

 

[chromium]

take a million mailmen

or a million nurses

or a million cashiers

wanna bet that one out of them gets arrested for something stupid in a weeks time

/thread fail

well it can't be just something stupid, but something directly job related. The thing about cops is they're provided deadly weapons and trusted to *serve and protect* so it gets shocking when they kill someone unarmed in cold blood

but yes you are likely correct in the sense that out of a million nurses, at least one a week will abuse their patient, one cashier a week will steal credit cards and so on. What makes the news is what the fits the narrative the news is pushing, based on ratings. To say this is a conspiracy between the diff networks that cater to certain audiences (tea party etc), well duh combined they're all owned by like 5 people, so that doesn't take much collusion.

I'll only comment that it's an interesting role reversal considering 30 years ago it was black crackheads and similar criminal elements that were supposedly an imminent threat, and now it's the white cop. But it's still identity politics as usual, because that's more gripping and easily understood than say international diplomacy, energy conservation, derivatives.

 

[reinoe]

take a million mailmen

or a million nurses

or a million cashiers

wanna bet that one out of them gets arrested for something stupid in a weeks time

/thread fail

Yo, when people in those professions do something stupid they get fired.

 

[reinoe]

Eyeroll.



It has to do with the fact that people accuse cops before they have the facts. Not off topic. The topic is about misconduct. Well...part of recognizing what is going on is know what the hell represents misconduct.



no. I still haven't been.

1}k
2) The Micheal Brown/Darren Wilson situation still has nothing to do with the topic.
3) You're resorting to sticking your head in the sand?

I accept your concession.