constitutional rights for terrorists? ..no way!

[Unfair]

the biggest terrorists are not muslim arabs. the biggest terrorists are in the white house.

 

[Navy Pride]

the biggest terrorists are not muslim arabs. the biggest terrorists are in the white house.

Well that sure minimizes your creditability........Tell me in real life are you Cindy Sheehan, John Daly, Michael Moore, or Ward Daley?:roll:

 

[Duke]

Well that sure minimizes your creditability........Tell me in real life are you Cindy Sheehan, John Daly, Michael Moore, or Ward Daley?:roll:

It seems that Navy Pride has no clue that there are people that agree with Cindy Sheehan, John Daly, Michael Moore, and Ward Daley.
War is terror.


Duke

 

[Navy Pride]

It seems that Navy Pride has no clue that there are people that agree with Cindy Sheehan, John Daly, Michael Moore, and Ward Daley.
War is terror.


Duke

Hey I know there are...you are a perfect example my friend.......

Lets see a couple of quotes from your heros.......

Sheehan: The united States are the worlds biggest terrorists

Daly: The troops shoot shoot their officers

Moore: The terrorist in Iraq are equal to our minute men

Churchill: The people that were murdered in the WTC are all little Eichmans......

Great leaders for the left wing........:roll:

 

[Duke]

Hey I know there are...you are a perfect example my friend.......

Lets see a couple of quotes from your heros.......

Sheehan: The united States are the worlds biggest terrorists

Daly: The troops shoot shoot their officers

Moore: The terrorist in Iraq are equal to our minute men

Churchill: The people that were murdered in the WTC are all little Eichmans......

Great leaders for the left wing........:roll:

For one, none of those people are my heroes, they actually tend to get on my nerves. They are just people that the right likes to say are the leaders of the left wing, for no reason other than that they sound stupid, and they are easy to use as an example. By the way, do you have any reliable sources for any those quotes?


Duke

 

[Navy Pride]

For one, none of those people are my heroes, they actually tend to get on my nerves. They are just people that the right likes to say are the leaders of the left wing, for no reason other than that they sound stupid, and they are easy to use as an example. By the way, do you have any reliable sources for any those quotes?


Duke

Well Duke you are the one who said they had a lot of followers........I was just agreeing with you......

As far as the quotes you need to get out more, keep up with the news........There have been threads on all of them in this forum and there is still one on Daly............Watch a little news my friend...........

 

[Duke]

Well Duke you are the one who said they had a lot of followers........I was just agreeing with you......

As far as the quotes you need to get out more, keep up with the news........There have been threads on all of them in this forum and there is still one on Daly............Watch a little news my friend...........

As a matter of a fact, you said, that they were my heros. Not by a long shot. Please stop trying to read my mind, for it is not working. So, no sources? I didn't think you would put any.

I watch the news plenty, thanks for your concern!


Duke

 

[DeeJayH]

As a matter of a fact, you said, that they were my heros. Not by a long shot. Please stop trying to read my mind, for it is not working. So, no sources? I didn't think you would put any.

I watch the news plenty, thanks for your concern!


Duke

and yet if you really did take in news sources
all those quotes would ring true
all were said by these loons

 

[Navy Pride]

As a matter of a fact, you said, that they were my heros. Not by a long shot. Please stop trying to read my mind, for it is not working. So, no sources? I didn't think you would put any.

I watch the news plenty, thanks for your concern!


Duke

Your the one who defended these left wing nut jobs not me...Anyhow I got a link for you on Daley...........You can do your own work on your other friends since you are the only one in the whole world that did not hear their outrageous statements..........

Oh and a little advice........You really need to find some updated news sources.........moveon.org and Air Ameirca just don't get it........

http://debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?t=5833

 

[M14 Shooter]

LOL you were the one who said we are not occupying Iraq.

Yes, I did. What about it?

If we are no longer at war with Iraq, upon what basis can we hold prisoners of war. Who are we at war with?

Well, aside from the fact that not being at war with Iraq does not preclude us from being at war IN Iraq...

The 'enemy combatants" we've captured are largely terrorists - and the war on terror is not over. Also, were captured in places other than Iraq.

So... whats your point?


AND... when are you going to lay out the argument that 'assault weapons' are not "arms"?

 

[Duke]

and yet if you really did take in news sources
all those quotes would ring true
all were said by these loons

The reason that I want sources is not that I doubt it, but that I would like to hear it from someone else.


Duke

 

[Duke]

Your the one who defended these left wing nut jobs not me...Anyhow I got a link for you on Daley...........You can do your own work on your other friends since you are the only one in the whole world that did not hear their outrageous statements..........

Oh and a little advice........You really need to find some updated news sources.........moveon.org and Air Ameirca just don't get it........

http://debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?t=5833

I don't go to moveon.org, or listen to Air America, I have no radio. I have updated news sources, too.

I never defended any of these "left wing nut jobs" you are blatently lying.


Duke

 

[Navy Pride]

I don't go to moveon.org, or listen to Air America, I have no radio. I have updated news sources, too.

I never defended any of these "left wing nut jobs" you are blatently lying.


Duke

It seems that Navy Pride has no clue that there are people that agree with Cindy Sheehan, John Daly, Michael Moore, and Ward Daley.
War is terror.

Duke, Your words, not mine

 

[Duke]

Duke, Your words, not mine

Did I ever say that I agree with them? Think carefully now........................

This is my 666th post. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Duke

 

[Navy Pride]

Did I ever say that I agree with them? Think carefully now........................

This is my 666th post. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Duke

Why did you defend them?

 

[Duke]

Why did you defend them?

Did I defend them, do I agree with them? Did I not already ask you this question?


Duke

 

[Iriemon]

Yes, I did. What about it?

Well, aside from the fact that not being at war with Iraq does not preclude us from being at war IN Iraq...

The 'enemy combatants" we've captured are largely terrorists - and the war on terror is not over. Also, were captured in places other than Iraq.

Then why have hundreds been freed? The Govt has been freeing terrorists? Or the Govt has been locking away innocent people?

So... whats your point?

The point is, a war on "terror" as opposed to a nation is a war on a concept. There have always been terrorists, and always will be. This war will never end. Therefore, saying you are holding POWs without giving them due process is an excuse to lock people away in the dungeons forever. Just like a two bit dictatorship does. That may be fine for some. To me, that is not what America, that shining beacon on the hill, stands for.

The same priniciple applies to the "war on drugs." Is that war over? using the same logice, drug dealers are "enemy combatants" and could be locked away forever without a charges or a trial.

AND... when are you going to lay out the argument that 'assault weapons' are not "arms"?

No, I am making a (fairly lame) point that if using labels like "enemy cobatant" as a means to avoid constitutional rules can be applied in different ways.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Then why have hundreds been freed? The Govt has been freeing terrorists? Or the Govt has been locking away innocent people?

As necessary, investigations as to the particulars of their capture showed they were (probably) not terrorists and so they were released.

The point is, a war on "terror" as opposed to a nation is a war on a concept. There have always been terrorists, and always will be. This war will never end. Therefore, saying you are holding POWs without giving them due process is an excuse to lock people away in the dungeons forever.

Why should a terrorist -ever- be released?

The same priniciple applies to the "war on drugs." Is that war over? using the same logice, drug dealers are "enemy combatants" and could be locked away forever without a charges or a trial.

Streeeeeeeeeeeetch a little more, will ya?

No, I am making a (fairly lame) point that if using labels like "enemy cobatant" as a means to avoid constitutional rules can be applied in different ways

You missed your point here by a wide margin.

 

[Iriemon]

Why should a terrorist -ever- be released?

A terrorist should not. How do we determine someone is a terrorist? Because the Govt says so? Is the mere accusation by the Govt sufficient to your to lock people away forever? No charges, no trial, no innocent until proven guilty?

 

[Navy Pride]

Did I defend them, do I agree with them? Did I not already ask you this question?


Duke

[QUOTEIt seems that Navy Pride has no clue that there are people that agree with Cindy Sheehan, John Daly, Michael Moore, and Ward Daley.
War is terror. ][/QUOTE]

Your words not mine...........And you did question whether those scum made the comments.....I think that would be considered defending them........

 

[Navy Pride]

A terrorist should not. How do we determine someone is a terrorist? Because the Govt says so? Is the mere accusation by the Govt sufficient to your to lock people away forever? No charges, no trial, no innocent until proven guilty?

If you catch a guy shooting at Americans or planting bombs they are terrorists...plain and simple...........

 

[shuamort]

Mod Note

Moving thread to war on terror from Polls forum as there's no poll on this thread.

/Mod Note

 

[M14 Shooter]

A terrorist should not. How do we determine someone is a terrorist? Because the Govt says so? Is the mere accusation by the Govt sufficient to your to lock people away forever? No charges, no trial, no innocent until proven guilty?

When caught on the battlefield... there is nothing to charge them with. No charges, no trial. Period.

 

[Duke]

Your words not mine...........And you did question whether those scum made the comments.....I think that would be considered defending them........

You asked a person wether they were one of those people simply because that person striked you as the type that is like them, that agrees with them. I was correcting you. You really have no idea what I am talking about, much less what you are talking about, do you?
I wanted a source that you have so far been unable to provide, for I would like to hear it from a mouth other than your own.


Duke

 

[Iriemon]

If you catch a guy shooting at Americans or planting bombs they are terrorists...plain and simple...........

How do you know that was done? Cuz the Govt says so?