Constitutional carry now in effect in Oklahoma.

[Fledermaus]

What about the "trash" who are pro-2nd amendment ?

And who would they be?

 

[Rich2018]

speculative crap that has not proven true in Hawaii, or Canada.

You're a gun banner. You admit constantly you want to ban guns. You want registration. That alone is a strong argument why anyone opposing gun bans should oppose registration

...and you seem to have forgotten the hundreds of thousands of requests that law enforcement make to the ATF ever year for data to help solve crimes.

 

[TurtleDude]

...and you seem to have forgotten the hundreds of thousands of requests that law enforcement make to the ATF ever year for data to help solve crimes.

most of which are not based on "registration"

try again

 

[Rich2018]

most of which are not based on "registration"

try again

How do you know...a weapon serial number can be tied to a batch and a supplier...but not as yet an individual, which would help law enforcement so much more.

Try again

 

[Fledermaus]

How do you know...a weapon serial number can be tied to a batch and a supplier...but not as yet an individual, which would help law enforcement so much more.

Try again

Help.them to do what specifically?

 

[TurtleDude]

How do you know...a weapon serial number can be tied to a batch and a supplier...but not as yet an individual, which would help law enforcement so much more.

Try again

you aren't speaking for law enforcement and since you constantly demand complete gun bans, I don't believe you are truthful when you pretend that your main push for registration is to help law enforcement

 

[TurtleDude]

Help.them to do what specifically?

shift the burden to registered gun owners if the weapons they own are later declared contraband

 

[Fledermaus]

shift the burden to registered gun owners if the weapons they own are later declared contraband

It is funny... Rich keeps blathering about registering guns but can't logically make an argument how that prevents violence.

 

[TurtleDude]

It is funny... Rich keeps blathering about registering guns but can't logically make an argument how that prevents violence.

that is because registration helps with confiscating guns (his stated goal) while not supporting his facade (diminishing crime).

 

[jamesrage]

What about the "trash" who are pro-2nd amendment ?

No such thing.Calling someone who is pro-2nd amendment "trash" would be like calling someone is who pro-free speech, pro-freedom of religion or some other enshrined constitutional rights supporter "trash.

 

[Rich2018]

you aren't speaking for law enforcement and since you constantly demand complete gun bans, I don't believe you are truthful when you pretend that your main push for registration is to help law enforcement

But you say that is never going to happen, so why are you running scared from registration.

And I don't need to speak for law enforcement when I say mandatory registration would greatly assist them in investigation.

You claim 30 years experience in criminal prosecution and yet you deny this based on ?

 

[Rich2018]

No such thing.Calling someone who is pro-2nd amendment "trash" would be like calling someone is who pro-free speech, pro-freedom of religion or some other enshrined constitutional rights supporter "trash.

So anyone who wishes to ban something not already prohibited by the Constitution is "trash"

So all those who fought to end slavery are poorly thought of ?


Your problem is that you see anyone who wants change as the same...were the people who wrote the 2nd amendment "trash" because the Constitution did have it originally?


Were the writers of the 22nd amendment "trash" or did you approve of that one ?

 

[Rich2018]

that is because registration helps with confiscating guns (his stated goal) while not supporting his facade (diminishing crime).

Which according to you can and will not EVER happen


So why are gun owners running scared of registration.

 

[Fledermaus]

Which according to you can and will not EVER happen


So why are gun owners running scared of registration.

What crimes will registration prevent?

 

[Rich2018]

shift the burden to registered gun owners if the weapons they own are later declared contraband

So you believe that happening is now a possibility ?

 

[TurtleDude]

So you believe that happening is now a possibility ?

Happened in NJ and California

 

[TurtleDude]

Which according to you can and will not EVER happen


So why are gun owners running scared of registration.

because people like you, who want to confiscate guns or harass legal gun ownership, want to impose it. same reason why women who support abortion rights oppose any requirement that anti abortion extremists wish to impose on them

 

[Rich2018]

Happened in NJ and California

A gun ban ?

because people like you, who want to confiscate guns or harass legal gun ownership, want to impose it. same reason why women who support abortion rights oppose any requirement that anti abortion extremists wish to impose on them

But you claim confiscation can't/won't happen...so why the fear of registration ?

 

[jamesrage]

So anyone who wishes to ban something not already prohibited by the Constitution is "trash"

So all those who fought to end slavery are poorly thought of ?


Your problem is that you see anyone who wants change as the same...were the people who wrote the 2nd amendment "trash" because the Constitution did have it originally?


Were the writers of the 22nd amendment "trash" or did you approve of that one ?

Lib-tard nonsense.

 

[Rich2018]

Lib-tard nonsense.

You mean LIBerty-tard


People who support liberalism and liberty are retarded ?


Right now, I'd like to see liberty from this:





A gang of gun wielding scum bags trying to pressure a democratically elected local government by their terroristic posturing in Richmond today.

 

[jamesrage]

You mean LIBerty-tard


People who support liberalism and liberty are retarded ?


Right now, I'd like to see liberty from this:


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A gang of gun wielding scum bags trying to pressure a democratically elected local government by their terroristic posturing in Richmond today.

Lib-tard nonsense because the bill or rights reaffirmed the rights that we the people naturally have.

 

[Rich2018]

Lib-tard nonsense because the bill or rights reaffirmed the rights that we the people naturally have.

LIBerty and LIBeralism


They come from the same Germanic word for life: Leben


Liberty nonsense huh, yeah some people get quite emotional about liberty: "Give me liberty or give me death"

Libtard to you.

 

[Fledermaus]

LIBerty and LIBeralism


They come from the same Germanic word for life: Leben


Liberty nonsense huh, yeah some people get quite emotional about liberty: "Give me liberty or give me death"

Libtard to you.

Wrong.

lib·er·ty
/ˈlibərdē/

From Middle English liberte, borrowed from Old French liberté, from Latin libertas (“freedom”)

 

[Rich2018]

Lib-tard nonsense because the bill or rights reaffirmed the rights that we the people naturally have.

What you, almost deliberately it seems, fail to grasp is that no gun ban can work until the 2nd amendment is repealed.

So if a gun ban happened, you would NOT have the right to own a gun.

 

[jamesrage]

What you, almost deliberately it seems, fail to grasp is that no gun ban can work until the 2nd amendment is repealed.

So if a gun ban happened, you would NOT have the right to own a gun.

If that was true then lib-tards wouldn't be able to ban semiautomatic firearms at the state level and wouldn't be attempting to ban them at the federal level under the guise of banning assault weapons.