What if they commit their crime with a gigantic piece of paper?
Still can vote and purchase a gun.
Since when are judges elected?
No. No need for it and there are other amendments that have been waiting in the wings for decades that deserve our attention.
Right, an appointment, not an election. Your typical convict doesn't take office to be able to make appointments.Governor or Legislative Appointment:
The opposite is true.There's not one mention of voting or the right to vote in any of that.
There are many people who don't realize that voting is NOT a right granted by the U.S. Constitution. Would you support such an amendment?
Choices: Would you support a voting rights amendment?
Yes
No
Other (Possibly accomplished with a Federal Statute)
Here is what is being proposed by two Democratic representatives:
A pair of Democratic congressmen is pushing an amendment that would place an affirmative right to vote in the U.S. Constitution. According to Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI), who is sponsoring the legislation along with Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the amendment would protect voters from what he described as a “systematic” push to “restrict voting access” through voter ID laws, shorter early voting deadlines, and other measures that are being proposed in many states.
“Most people believe that there already is something in the Constitution that gives people the right to vote, but unfortunately … there is no affirmative right to vote in the Constitution. We have a number of amendments that protect against discrimination in voting, but we don’t have an affirmative right,” Pocan told TPM last week. “Especially in an era … you know, in the last decade especially we’ve just seen a number of these measures to restrict access to voting rights in so many states. … There’s just so many of these that are out there, that it shows the real need that we have.”
The brief amendment would stipulate that “every citizen of the United States, who is of legal voting age, shall have the fundamental right to vote in any public election held in the jurisdiction in which the citizen resides.” It would also give Congress “the power to enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation.”
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Congressmen Propose Constitutional Amendment To Block Voting Rights Challenges | TPMDC
And the amendment would make it even worse by validating the notion that voting is a privilege instead of a responsibility.
Yes, good job. You've identified the law of identity. Now, I'm going a step further and looking at what attitude towards voting is validated by such an action and therefore how voting shall be viewed. There's a segment of the population which views voting as a privilege, and by making it a right, we are validating that viewpoint.No, that would be making it.................a right.
Yes, good job. You've identified the law of identity. Now, I'm going a step further and looking at what attitude towards voting is validated by such an action and therefore how voting shall be viewed. There's a segment of the population which views voting as a privilege, and by making it a right, we are validating that viewpoint.
What rationale is there for not allowing people who've served their time to vote again? If they're released back as citizens, they should be able to participate as citizens.
The level of appreciation you feel people should have for the right isn't relevant.
Since when are judges elected?
How can they vote if they can't use giant pieces of paper? Think man!
It has nothing to do with appreciation. Voting exists in our system as a check against government to ensure the ideals of the Republic are maintained. Declaring voting a right makes it instead an individual pursuit which it certainly is not. Any notions of voting outside of this purpose, including further one's own interests or acting upon an ideological belief which runs counter to these principles are outside the scope of our form of Government.
There are many people who don't realize that voting is NOT a right granted by the U.S. Constitution. Would you support such an amendment?
Choices: Would you support a voting rights amendment?
Yes
No
Other (Possibly accomplished with a Federal Statute)
Here is what is being proposed by two Democratic representatives:
A pair of Democratic congressmen is pushing an amendment that would place an affirmative right to vote in the U.S. Constitution. According to Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI), who is sponsoring the legislation along with Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the amendment would protect voters from what he described as a “systematic” push to “restrict voting access” through voter ID laws, shorter early voting deadlines, and other measures that are being proposed in many states.
“Most people believe that there already is something in the Constitution that gives people the right to vote, but unfortunately … there is no affirmative right to vote in the Constitution. We have a number of amendments that protect against discrimination in voting, but we don’t have an affirmative right,” Pocan told TPM last week. “Especially in an era … you know, in the last decade especially we’ve just seen a number of these measures to restrict access to voting rights in so many states. … There’s just so many of these that are out there, that it shows the real need that we have.”
The brief amendment would stipulate that “every citizen of the United States, who is of legal voting age, shall have the fundamental right to vote in any public election held in the jurisdiction in which the citizen resides.” It would also give Congress “the power to enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation.”
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Congressmen Propose Constitutional Amendment To Block Voting Rights Challenges | TPMDC
are you in favor of them being able to own guns too?
In early United States, only land owners (male) were allowed to vote. That seems harsh by todays standards.
But there was good reason NOT to let itinerant laborers and never-do-wells, and transients vote. They had no stake in the local economy.
Owning land was easy. Lot's of free land to homestead. The homesteading was the hard part.
Anyone successful in carving a home out of the wilderness, had EARNED a right to vote.
The best we can do today, is voter IDs to prevent fraudulent votes from dead folks and multiple voting transients, and illegals.
Voting is mentioned as a right at least four times in the Constitution bill of rights. So your claim that voting is not a right is blatantly false.
15th Amendment (1870): "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."
19th Amendment (1920): "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex."
23rd Amendment (1961): provides that residents of the District of Columbia can vote for the President and Vice-President.
24th Amendment (1964): "The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax."
26th Amendment (1971): "The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."
I swear to god, this happens to me every time I take the OP or any other post at face value.
If the state does not provide free ID then it's nothing more than a hidden pole tax. If the state wants to provide voter ID's free of charge I have no problem with it nor should anyone else.Same reason they don't want anyone to require an ID, it's hurts their chances of getting elected.
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