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Conservatives, we cannot let the left get away with it again

ataraxia said:
Can someone have economic policy positions in one way, and other policy positions the other way?
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He is in the camp of the liberals here. Don't let MSM create the narrative for you again. They fooled you on Russian collusion. Don't bite the same hook again.
 
Paradoxical said:
He himself says he is in the liberal camp.

Look, I know this upsets you, but of the guy said he was a right wonger I wouldn't dare say he wasn't. yet, the left is trying to say he is not really what he himself says he is.

"Beyond Orwell....2022" A blockbuster movie.

You will not believe anything of what a person says he is after seeing this revealing movie. if someone says he is a liberaL AND SHOOTS PEOPLE, HE IS REALLY A CONSERVATIVE IN DISGUISE.
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Slow down, breathe a minute.

Overall, which side of the aisle tends to support the shooter's view on race? I think the answer is quite simple.

It's not what he claims politically. He appears to be a confused young man. One thing is certain though, he supports white supremacist views, and the "Great Replacement Theory". Can you name some supporters of this so-called ideology from the left in American politics?

If RWers don't want to be associated with this ugly racist stink, they need to start stepping it up and disowning it, en masse. I've yet to see that, maybe you can start a movement?
 
Paradoxical said:
name me one person on the right who thinks the Replacement Theory is about Jews along with a link verifying this.
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Excast said:
Do you even remember some of the most infamous footage from Charlottesville, with hundreds/thousands of white men chanting "Jews will not replace us" as they protested the removal of Confederate statues?

Who do you think those folks were?
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Paradoxical said:
This has nothing to do with anything I posted
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?????????
 
Paradoxical said:
It makes him a LIBERAL white supremacist.

And...................?
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Word salad. You have to understand American English at a level that appears unavailable to you to argue successfully at an American Debate Forum.

dasvidaniya
 
tres borrachos said:
He's 18. He had no political ideology. Just a twisted anger at minorities because he kept getting told that immigrants and blacks were going to replace white people.
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And we all know that is a view that comes from the left wing of America, amirite?
 
Airyaman said:
Slow down, breathe a minute.

Overall, which side of the aisle tends to support the shooter's view on race? I think the answer is quite simple.

It's not what he claims politically. He appears to be a confused young man. One thing is certain though, he supports white supremacist views, and the "Great Replacement Theory". Can you name some supporters of this so-called ideology from the left in American politics?

If RWers don't want to be associated with this ugly racist stink, they need to start stepping it up and disowning it, en masse. I've yet to see that, maybe you can start a movement?
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The side of the aisle who are racists are the liberals.
 
Airyaman said:
And we all know that is a view that comes from the left wing of America, amirite?
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It's really disturbing that the right cares more about anonymous posters on a message board hurting their feelings than they do about 10 innocent people lying in the morgue right now.

Pro-life, indeed.
 
jnug said:
Word salad. You have to understand American English at a level that appears unavailable to you to argue successfully at an American Debate Forum.

dasvidaniya
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When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

That is unless you are an Orwellian.
 
Paradoxical said:
He admits he is a socialist. Is that "conservative: to you? He admits he is an eco terrorist. Is that "conservative; to you? He admits he hates capitalism. Is that "conservative" to you?

I need to write a book..............."Beyond Orwell 2022" subtitled. "When the world went mad."
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He hates blacks. Yep, conservative
 
Paradoxical said:
He admits he is a socialist. Is that "conservative: to you? He admits he is an eco terrorist. Is that "conservative; to you? He admits he hates capitalism. Is that "conservative" to you?

I need to write a book..............."Beyond Orwell 2022" subtitled. "When the world went mad."
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But he drove 200 miles to kill a lot of black people
 
Paradoxical said:
The left is masters of creating a narrative and inducing people to believe their lies just as they did in the Russia Collusion hoax. They are trying to paint the Buffalo shooter as a conservative because he believed in the "Replacement Theory" and they like to use the word "theory" so they can then have a meme that says it is false. Ben Shapiro posted that "if you want to be accurate about the Great Replacement Theory, it is a conspiracy theory about Jewish elites shipping in minorities to change the racial stock of a country. That is precisely what the Buffalo shooter says. And it is echoed by neither political party."

In his manifesto, the shooter says Later in the manifest, the shooter insists, “I would prefer to call myself a populist. But you can call me an ethno-nationalist eco-fascist national socialist if you want, I wouldn’t disagree with you.” He also repeatedly attacks capitalists, and rejected the conservative label because, he wrote, “conservativism is corporatism in disguise, I want no part of it.”

Mainstream media is trying to paint the shooter as a RIGHT wing nut when he himself proves he is as left-wing as many of the posters here. Conservatives need to shout this lie down and fast. Otherwise, we will have a hundred million idiots believing it just like they believed the lie that Trump colluded with Russia. Don't let them get away with this one.
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What a country. An 18 year old kid kills 10 strangers that he hates for no reason and your biggest concern is convincing people he wouldnt have voted the way you do when he got old enough to vote.
Be honest- are you part of the problem or part of the solution?
 
Excast said:
Do even you believe the garbage you just posted?

I realize that in Conservatopia, you are always the victim of some massive liberal plot to destroy your lives, but out here in the real world most of us are able to understand what side a self described ethno nationalist/Nazi who travelled for hours to mass murder black people probably sits on. If he had been born a few years earlier he likely would have been one of the "very fine people" marching in Charlottesville or running down protesters in his car.
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No he doesnt
 
As far as I’m concerned, he is a piece of whale shit regardless of his politics…
 
Paradoxical said:
He is in the camp of the liberals here. Don't let MSM create the narrative for you again. They fooled you on Russian collusion. Don't bite the same hook again.
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The Russian collusion was an investigation. Once no evidence was found, we let it go. We still go by The evidence. Trump still doesn’t let go of the election lie. The amount of evidence is not a consideration. There is no comparison.

As many times as you may repeat that he is a liberal, he didn’t shoot that place up because of economic policy issues. He was upset for the same reason Tucker Carlson and the GOP leadership tell him to be every day.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
Other posts have effectively demolished most of the rest of your arguments, but I wanted to add that fascists/Nazis don't like Neo-conservatives because...they aren't conservative enough for them.
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How were the Nazis conservative? Hitler wanted German society completely changed. He supported high taxes, heavy government intervention into the economy, and massive amounts of government spending. He built an expansive welfare state. While Lenin was crushing unions in Russia, Hitler nationalized them in Germany. Hitler latched onto the idea of eugenics from American progressives who were already doing it.

Explain to me how the Nazis were conservative, because I don't see it.
 
Paradoxical said:
He himself says he is in the liberal camp.

Look, I know this upsets you, but of the guy said he was a right wonger I wouldn't dare say he wasn't. yet, the left is trying to say he is not really what he himself says he is.

"Beyond Orwell....2022" A blockbuster movie.

You will not believe anything of what a person says he is after seeing this revealing movie. if someone says he is a liberaL AND SHOOTS PEOPLE, HE IS REALLY A CONSERVATIVE IN DISGUISE.
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He also pleaded not guilty. I better believe him
 
Paradoxical said:
NOTHING to do with my post.
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You said nobody on the right believes the theory mentioned by the killer. I provided evidence of the Charlottesville protests where it's clear that Trumpists do believe it. Your response is to double down and pretend the two aren't linked when they are literally the same thing.
 
VanceMack said:
That makes him both a racist piece of shit AND a leftist.
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You think he shot the place up because he was upset with “leftist” economic policy, or because of what Tucker Carlson tells him to be upset about every night?
 
Paradoxical said:
When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

That is unless you are an Orwellian.
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Then read what he wrote and understand it. He does not give a crap what you call him. THAT is what he is saying.

As far as the shooter wanting nothing to do with conservation, The Radical Right has NOTHING TO DO with Conservatism. They pick and choose what they like about Conservatism and toss away the rest.
- Conservatives are into smaller government...NOT NO GOVERNMENT AT ALL. It should be obvious by now that given a choice between small government and achieving their White Nationalist goals, the Radical Right will gladly take down the entirety of the Federal Government and build ....who knows what....an Autocracy would be my bet.
 
aociswundumho said:
How were the Nazis conservative? Hitler wanted German society completely changed. He supported high taxes, heavy government intervention into the economy, and massive amounts of government spending. He built an expansive welfare state. While Lenin was crushing unions in Russia, Hitler nationalized them in Germany. Hitler latched onto the idea of eugenics from American progressives who were already doing it.

Explain to me how the Nazis were conservative, because I don't see it.
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He had all the socialists and communists killed in the Nazi party.

“Hitler was uncomfortable with Röhm's outspoken support for a "second revolution" to redistribute wealth.”
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Night of the Long Knives - Wikipedia

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