Conservatives may find it hard to keep "Critical Race Theory" out of the classroom

[ultmd]

Anywhere from the false premise of systematic racism, white guilt to unconscious bias. Just think, anything SJW, needs to go.

History that actually happened is fine, made up history to fulfill a political agenda, no.

....what the heck do you know about "actual history", huh?

And, please, tell me.....upon what basis do you believe that systemic racism is a "false premise"?

Lastly, no one cares about your "white guilt"...OR....your "white rage" (i.e. white-grievance). The only thing that matters is the "history that actually happened". And, I really don't think you want anything to do with that conversation.

What part of CRT are you prepared to discredit, Linux? Please, be as specific and candid as possible.

Or (more likely)....just hush up about things you are intellectually or educationally ill-equipped to discuss.

 

[Grim17]

This video features an interracial couple, both of which happen to be school teachers in the suburbs of Chicago, and the voices of Oak Park school officials explaining the teachings of CRT.

Listen to what that couple have to say about it:

 

[Linuxcooldude]

....what the heck do you know about "actual history", huh?

And, please, tell me.....upon what basis do you believe that systemic racism is a "false premise"?

Because systematic racism doesn't support diffinitive proof, for which is why it's not accepted in the courts or the Supreme Court:

The Supreme Court Still Refuses to Acknowledge Systemic Racism

Overturning this little-known Supreme Court decision could help end institutional racism.

slate.com

 

[j brown's body]

As I've just said, actual history is fine. History though the CRT lens is not.

Whats the diff?

 

[reflechissez]

This video features an interracial couple, both of which happen to be school teachers in the suburbs of Chicago, and the voices of Oak Park school officials explaining the teachings of CRT.

Listen to what that couple have to say about it:

Why should anyone care about what this random couple has to say?

 

[reflechissez]

Whats the diff?

Good question.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Whats the diff?

Look at the post above you, post#28 for an example.

If it's shown by conservatives as not being racist, the liberals still bring out the lens of CRT, it must be systematic racism.

 

[reflechissez]

Look at the post above you, post#28 for an example.

Nah. Use your own words or highlight whatever you're trying to say.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Nah. Use your own words or highlight whatever you're trying to say.

Yet again, look at post #28, which is in my own words, but you failed to comprehend.

 

[reflechissez]

Yet again, look at post #28, which is in my own words, but you failed to comprehend.

What's in the link?

 

[Linuxcooldude]

What's in the link?

With very basic internet skills, click on the link to show supporting documentation that corresponds to my statements on systematic racism.

 

[reflechissez]

With very basic internet skills, click on the link to show supporting documentation that corresponds to my statements on systematic racism.

No pass. If it's not worth it for you to be specific about your "argument," why is it worth it for anyone to read what you've linked to?

 

[Linuxcooldude]

No pass. If it's not worth it for you to be specific about your "argument," why is it worth it for anyone to read what you've linked to?

I already have, the rest is up to you.

 

[Moot]

"critical race theory (CRT), intellectual movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that the law and legal institutions in the United States are inherently racist insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans."

Critical race theory | Examples, Public Schools, History, Tenets, & Criticism | Britannica

Critical race theory (CRT) is an intellectual and social movement and a framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is a socially constructed category that is used to oppress and exploit people of color. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal...

www.britannica.com

It sounds like CRT should be something taught in college or law school and not K-12.

 

[Moot]

Juneteenth has everything to do with slavery and slavery has everything to do with CRT.

CRT has to do with systemic racism in the laws and legal system. The 1619 Project has to do with history.

 

[Moot]

"Enter the 1836 Project, and Greg Abbott’s rallying cry as he signed the bill: “Foundational principles” and “founding documents”! ...Let’s read the 1836 Texas Declaration of Independence. It not only exposes the tyranny of Mexican leader Gen. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, but also describes how Anglo Texans consistently bent and broke Mexican laws. In class, we can talk about how one of the laws that Texans violated was Mexico’s decade-old abolition of slavery. The declaration also describes Stephen F. Austin’s incarceration. In discussing what happened there, we can discover that Mexican officials rightly suspected Texans of fomenting illegal revolutions for years.

Let’s read Texas’ single most foundational document, the 1836 Constitution of the Republic of Texas. We will find...That it was illegal for either Congress or an individual to simply emancipate a slave. That even free Black people could not live in Texas without specific permission from the state. That “Africans, the descendants of Africans, and Indians” had no rights as citizens. Let’s read Republic of Texas President Mirabeau Lamar’s message to the Texas Congress in December of 1838, where he calls for the “total extinction or total expulsion” of all Indigenous peoples in Texas. This included the Texas Cherokee, who had long-standing land rights recognized by Mexico and by Texas’ previous president, Sam Houston. In class, we can talk about how Lamar would make good on his proposal by sending a Texan army to massacre and drive out the remaining Cherokee in July 1839.

Finally, let’s take a close look at the “Declaration of Causes,” the document an elected Texas convention published in February 1861 to explain why the state was seceding from the United States. Here, no reader needs the 1619 Project or CRT to help them conjure the spirit of systemic racism. The document’s writers aren’t shy about their intentions. They believed in some “undeniable truths”: Their beloved state of Texas had been established “exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity.”* In Texas, Black people had “no agency” and were “rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race.” This enslavement was not just a temporary necessary evil; it was a positive good, “the revealed will of the Almighty Creator” to “all Christian nations.” This is “Christian heritage,” but not necessarily the kind the bill establishing the 1836 Project says it wants to promote."

Texas’ “1836 Project” Is Nonsense. But for Teachers, It Can Be a Gift.

Teaching Texas’ founding documents is a great way to talk about the history of racism.

slate.com

There are just too many primary source documents out there showing white supremacy is the bedrock of American history.

Forget the Alamo.

 

[j brown's body]

It sounds like CRT should be something taught in college or law school and not K-12.

There is, of course, a lot of confusion as to just what CRT actually is. And in its original form, it probably only is taught in colleges. Alabama banned the teaching of it everywhere, yet the state university's law school dean claims to be an expert in it. So what are they even talking about?

But then, it is Its pretty easy to teach about the social construction of race and systematic racism throughout US History. In fact, I don't know how one can avoid it. The text in the OP bears that out.

I think these state laws are political posturing over a crisis that doesn't really exist.

 

[Moot]

There is, of course, a lot of confusion as to just what CRT actually is. And in its original form, it probably only is taught in colleges. Alabama banned the teaching of it everywhere, yet the state university's law school dean claims to be an expert in it. So what are they even talking about?

But then, it is Its pretty easy to teach about the social construction of race and systematic racism throughout US History. In fact, I don't know how one can avoid it. The text in the OP bears that out.

I think these state laws are political posturing over a crisis that doesn't really exist.

That's what it looks like to me, too.

 

[Tigerace117]

Anywhere from the false premise of systematic racism, white guilt to unconscious bias. Just think, anything SJW, needs to go.

History that actually happened is fine, made up history to fulfill a political agenda, no.

So in other words you wouldn’t mention anything from the founding of the country until at LEAST 1964, since you are desperate to avoid mentioning systematic racism.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

So in other words you wouldn’t mention anything from the founding of the country until at LEAST 1964, since you are desperate to avoid mentioning systematic racism.

I've already stated my opinion of systematic racism in post #38. You can teach actual history without SJW teachings.

 

[Grim17]

Why should anyone care about what this random couple has to say?

They are the straight, non-political opinions of 2 school teachers based on both their experiences teaching in the school district that they are employed, as well as what personally led them to the successful people they are today. They have a unique perspective being a mixed raced family and as teachers, know from experience what positively motivates students and what doesn't.

I expect that won't cut it for you because they don't march in lock-step with your ideology... Well maybe you will listen to the experiences of a 15 year old high school student:

 

[Grim17]

CRT has to do with systemic racism in the laws and legal system.

The thing is, there is no racism embedded in any laws in the United States... None. As for the legal system there is definitely a bias there, but it isn't a racial one... It's all about wealth. The more money a person has, the better their legal team, and the better their chances of acquittal. If a person can't afford a lawyer and has to rely on a court appointed attorney, chances are they're going to be convicted of whatever they've been charged with.

O.J. Simpson is a perfect example of that.

 

[Tigerace117]

I've already stated my opinion of systematic racism in post #38. You can teach actual history without SJW teachings.

You thinking acknowledging historical facts is “SJW” proves my point exactly.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

You thinking acknowledging historical facts is “SJW” proves my point exactly.

Which of course, you don't go into.

 

[reflechissez]

They are the straight, non-political opinions of 2 school teachers based on both their experiences teaching in the school district that they are employed, as well as what personally led them to the successful people they are today. They have a unique perspective being a mixed raced family and as teachers, know from experience what positively motivates students and what doesn't.

I expect that won't cut it for you because they don't march in lock-step with your ideology... Well maybe you will listen to the experiences of a 15 year old high school student:

Anecdotes are not data.