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Conneticut Shooting will be a Bad One

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I'm reading on the news at leaset 12 dead?

This is going to be a bad one, the anti's will come out the wood
work shortly.

Must be a terrible time for the families there, wishing them well.
 
There will be time for all that when the facts are in. Until then, I just pray for the families.
 
Fisher said:
There will be time for all that when the facts are in. Until then, I just pray for the families.
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This. I hate when people use tragedies like this to advance an agenda, it seems like the maniacs strike back to back and I have suspicions it's copycat behavior, regardless the victims did not deserve this and the perp is a POS.
 
I agree that things like this are terrible. But my thing is that it continually points out the stupidity of guns owned by private so called law abiding citizens. They get their guns via an inept system which doesn't care about their emotional stability from day to day or under personal crisis situations or pressures. Anyone can break and thats the point.

Also, I think it is moronic for the gunnies to say EVERY SINGLE time that the shooter is a loon or something. If they were how did they get the gun legally. And FYI most of the guns were gotten legally.

Only a delusional person would not admit that more needs to be done to keep guns out of the hands of people who have issues with stress or that ALL SHOOTERS are loons.

Its ok to say that these issues exist and still support guns. Its not to continue to live in the delusion that every belief or attitude towards guns is solid or unbending or inpenetrable.

No one is that right about anything except GOD.
 
LaMidRighter said:
This. I hate when people use tragedies like this to advance an agenda, it seems like the maniacs strike back to back and I have suspicions it's copycat behavior, regardless the victims did not deserve this and the perp is a POS.
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You think it is not going to happen? It is just a matter of gathering facts to be able to discuss it one way or the other.
 
Fisher said:
You think it is not going to happen? It is just a matter of gathering facts to be able to discuss it one way or the other.
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Yeah, there will be a discussion. Like in the past it's going to be the fringe gun control side trying to push that agenda, and second advocates having to defend the right. In all of this the victims will be used as pawns by certain people which is sickening and the more important discussions of why this happened will get lost. There is no silver lining here, these people didn't deserve it and one maniac caused numerous people misery, sickening all around.
 
wolfman24 said:
I agree that things like this are terrible. But my thing is that it continually points out the stupidity of guns owned by private so called law abiding citizens. They get their guns via an inept system which doesn't care about their emotional stability from day to day or under personal crisis situations or pressures. Anyone can break and thats the point.

Also, I think it is moronic for the gunnies to say EVERY SINGLE time that the shooter is a loon or something. If they were how did they get the gun legally. And FYI most of the guns were gotten legally.

Only a delusional person would not admit that more needs to be done to keep guns out of the hands of people who have issues with stress or that ALL SHOOTERS are loons.

Its ok to say that these issues exist and still support guns. Its not to continue to live in the delusion that every belief or attitude towards guns is solid or unbending or inpenetrable.

No one is that right about anything except GOD.
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It's already illegal to posses a gun on school property in that state, so why didn't your gun-control stop the shooter? Show us the glory of your gun-control, show us how your gun-control worked here.
 
wolfman24 said:
I agree that things like this are terrible. But my thing is that it continually points out the stupidity of guns owned by private so called law abiding citizens.
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You're right
And since any woman can turn into a prostitute, we need to restrict their rights as well. - just in case.
 
wolfman24 said:
I agree that things like this are terrible. But my thing is that it continually points out the stupidity of guns owned by private so called law abiding citizens.
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The shooter wasn't a law-abiding citizen.

He broke the law forbidding guns on school property, and oh yeah he broke the law against murder.

Not law-abiding at all.

You can rest well tonight knowing that your gun control kept the teachers and faculty from protecting those 18 children today.
 
wolfman24 said:
I agree that things like this are terrible. But my thing is that it continually points out the stupidity of guns owned by private so called law abiding citizens. They get their guns via an inept system which doesn't care about their emotional stability from day to day or under personal crisis situations or pressures. Anyone can break and thats the point.

Also, I think it is moronic for the gunnies to say EVERY SINGLE time that the shooter is a loon or something. If they were how did they get the gun legally. And FYI most of the guns were gotten legally.

Only a delusional person would not admit that more needs to be done to keep guns out of the hands of people who have issues with stress or that ALL SHOOTERS are loons.

Its ok to say that these issues exist and still support guns. Its not to continue to live in the delusion that every belief or attitude towards guns is solid or unbending or inpenetrable.

No one is that right about anything except GOD.
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You have some serious logic issues

What I see of these incidents which leads me to intuitively believe that many of these crimes are copycat - 'yeah these guys have wronged me for the last time, I'll get them like that guy at Virginia Tech.'

So in one respect the media is to blame. These incidents have occurred throughout history, but in 1952 most folks in California didn't hear about the guy in Massachusetts who walked into the plant he worked at and killed 5 people because he'd been laid off. Today a case like that would be THE prime event for every network and cable news program until another event eclipsed it.

If more people are hearing about such events, it just stands to reason that some of them are unbalanced and seize on that type of activity to make a statement or assuage their perceived torment.

The media needs to stop propping up, the psychos
 
I was listening to Rush when this happened and after he said how horrible it was he said, wait and see the anti gum libs are thinking how to use this to their advantage as we speak. I thought, c'mon Rush, can't we just mourn for these kids a minute and leave politics out of this. Then the news broke into his show and the first words I heard from the reporter was something like, The first thing we need to know is where did these guns come from and how did the shooter get them? REALLY???? THAT is the first thing to think about here? Sadly Rush was right again. I am seeing the same thing in here already and find it cold hearted and pathetic.
 
LaMidRighter said:
This. I hate when people use tragedies like this to advance an agenda, it seems like the maniacs strike back to back and I have suspicions it's copycat behavior, regardless the victims did not deserve this and the perp is a POS.
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There is a profound and significant difference between
1- people who as you say will use a tragedy to advance their own agenda,
2- people who are genuinely concerned with national policy on firearms and its impact upon the citizenry and who want to protect the Second Amendment for responsible people, and
3- people who are blind, deaf and dumb to the negative effects of 300 million guns in America and are willing to tolerate these events but know they have to say the required words of regret on the day they happen far too regularly.
 
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I see Haymarket has added more of his usual nonsense.
Hopefully no one will take the bait.
 
haymarket said:
There is a profound and significant difference between
1- people who as you say will use a tragedy to advance their own agenda,
2- people who are genuinely concerned with national policy on firearms and its impact upon the citizenry and who want to protect the Second Amendment for responsible people, and
3- people who are blind, deaf and dumb to the negative effects of 300 million guns in America and are willing to tolerate these events but know they have to say the required words of regret on the day they happen far too regularly.
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Yet the more liberal we become as a society the more this happens......might want to think a little less about a single data point.
 
H. Lee White said:
Drat. Someone took the bait.
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Sometimes the fish likes to nibble at people's lines.....doesn't mean he is gonna bite the hook.....and the line may have been yours not his I was toying with :2wave:
 
wolfman24 said:
my thing is that it continually points out the stupidity of guns owned by private so called law abiding citizens. They get their guns via an inept system which doesn't care about their emotional stability from day to day or under personal crisis situations or pressures. Anyone can break and thats the point.
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You're so right that anyone can break at any time... even law abiding upright citizens, so we better also just go ahead and take their children away from them and their privilege of driving while we're at it.

I mean after all if just one child is saved by the government taking parents rights away to raise their children then its worth it right? I mean we never know when a parent might have a bad stressful day and just "break" and go postal right?


Ok I was being sarcastic ..

your argument is mindless IMHO but we are all entitled to our opinions right?

The reality is bad things happen but these things shouldn't be used to push agendas or legislate new laws. If you are concerned about your children then home school them and shelter them and protect them. While this is a tragedy we must keep in mind that more children die each year in car accidents than in these sporadic shootings yet we haven't outlawed automobiles ..yet that is
 
Jerry said:
The shooter wasn't a law-abiding citizen.

He broke the law forbidding guns on school property, and oh yeah he broke the law against murder.

Not law-abiding at all.

You can rest well tonight knowing that your gun control kept the teachers and faculty from protecting those 18 children today.
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That's not even logically sound.
Basically your only response is to give everybody in the country a weapon...that's the only way to solve crazy individuals getting a hold of an arsenal whose legality provides no benefit to this country.
 
Jerry said:
...and the anti-gunners are coming out of the woodwork :roll:
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And they should too. I'm all for guns but fail to see why a private individual needs a gun that holds a clip that contains 25 rounds--with the exception of an American soldier of course.
 
iliveonramen said:
Basically your only response is to give everybody in the country a weapon...that's the only way to solve crazy individuals getting a hold of an arsenal.
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I do not see any such suggestion in his post.
Why do you prefer figthing with straw men?
 
Jerry said:
You can rest well tonight knowing that your gun control kept the teachers and faculty from protecting those 18 children today.
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It's just as wrong to use a tragedy like this to push an anti-gun-control agenda as it is to push a pro-gun-control agenda.

Tragedies like this are sickening, there's no doubt. And it's absolutely right that we should try to analyze the situation, how it came about, and ask ourselves what could be done in the future to prevent things like this from happening. But that's not what's happening here.

At the moment though, there is almost zero information available. All people on both sides of the gun control debate are doing is using this as an excuse to get their talking points in. And that's pretty low.
 
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