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here we go again, more condescension, more insulting of the electorate, more "testiness"
John Kerry: Democrats’ woes stem from uninformed voters - BostonHerald.com
it looks like the laughs provided by mr colbert aren't lasting
this party is turning all pissy
oh well
It's easy to manipulate people without those things though, before the advent of tv and radio, appeals to emotion were still used widely.
Just look at the propaganda posters from WW2, all sides used it heavily.
People are rationally ignorant, they have no need to research policy, other than the short bites and quips they are fed.
It's one of the problems with democratic elections and majority representation.
But the reason why the bastards are corrupt and enact corrupt schemes is because of all the lobbies that throw money at them.
So what is your answer to that? Do away with lobbying? You can't!
You're right. You can't get rid of lobbying.
But what can be done is take away some of the legislative power from the few. And the best way to do that is to implement reforms that enable popular initiatives on the federal level.
It doesn't matter how many Congressmen and Senators are in a company's pocket when the people themselves can make decisions regarding legislation.
What would the reforms you envision look like? I mean we had one go of it trying to reform campaign finance that is a disaster in free speech rights.
I would want popular initiatives on a federal level.
How I envision such an initiative would work is that the people can pass federal laws. In order for a federal law to get passed via referendum, the proposal would have to
1) get a 50%+1 majority of votes nationwide
2) get a 50%+1 majority within a number of states equal to 50%+1 in the Union (currently 26 states).
So with this "double majority" system, proposed laws can get passed by the people directly and bypass Congress.
so you want a direct democracy?
Of course they are. Just like Republicians were with Obama and Democrats the last two elections crying that they were only getting votes because of lack of education on the issues and having to rely solely on campaign spin.
Political ignorance of voters is what effects every election. This is exactly why the majority power switches parties every other election. If voters were educated on political issue we would see a more consistant percentage control year over year ( I would assume something like 60% R and 40% D) instead of the drastic power flip flops.
obama has it backwards---washington knows least
I would want popular initiatives on a federal level.
How I envision such an initiative would work is that the people can pass federal laws. In order for a federal law to get passed via referendum, the proposal would have to
1) get a 50%+1 majority of votes nationwide
2) get a 50%+1 majority within a number of states equal to 50%+1 in the Union (currently 26 states).
So with this "double majority" system, proposed laws can get passed by the people directly and bypass Congress.
Am I reading this right? Some on the far right are complaining that now congress isn't doing enough? Not long ago they were complaining they were doing too much. I guess they just can't be satsified.
Obama doesn't control procedures in the House nor in the Senate.
as HEAD of his party he had UP TIL RECENTLY an awful lot of INFLUENCE
stop arguing, discuss what's really happening
I would say that before the internet this was true. Now, however, it's MUCH easier to keep track of politicians' voting records and opinions. I think that the generations after us will be less affected by those things.
what tv are you watching
HE's the one who demanded health care, crammed it, deemed it, dumped the po
his own chief of staff leaked to dana milbank at the post at least 3 times that we'd all be better off had obama listened to him and been PRAGMATIC
it's rahm who's most disgusted with the professional left who need drug testing, and they're not real happy with him
the president is de facto leader of his party and this one rode his hard
he is 100% responsible
these continued efforts to duck accountability are just part of his many problems
frankly, you surprise me
Spineless, Weak, Lying, Shiftless, Thieves. These are but a few of the adjectives I would use to describe those in charge of congress today. And I have stronger terms in mind, but I wouldn't want to offend.
What say you all, is this the Hope, and Change thing you all expected?
j-mac
The punt will morph into nothing more than a time out and become a punt fake about the time of the Lame Duck session when all the dead locks will be pushed aside along with the Senate rules and they will once again ignore the will of "WE THE PEOPLE" before the Lefties lose control of possibly both Houses of Congress.
it is the president's problem that he picked as his prime piece to cram an obamacare that is so profoundly unpopular any who oppose it must perforce profit at the polls
and that's exactly what the caucus is complaining about
sorry
So are you saying that it's Obama's fault that the GOP obstructed all legislation that would have created a public option for health insurance?
Not quite.
Conservative voters are against the health care reform because they see it as too much government intrusion in people's lives.
Liberal voters are against the health care reform because it is not the full public option they hoped they could get through Congress.
And it's pretty disingenuous to call it "Obamacare" when it's not even what Obama wanted to pass.
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