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So, there was much ado about how we "abandoned" the Afghans, and how it was OUR fault that they were over run, and therefore, our fault, that they are subdued, tortured, and in general, abused by the Taliban.
So, my question is fairly simple. Was/is the taliban a better army than Russia? Ukraine is still holding out, despite not having BILLIONS in US arms, munitions, and equipment, not to mention, 20 years of training....against RUSSIA. The Afghan army folded in 3 days. Is that because they sucked at fighting? Is there something about ukrainians that make them great at fighting? Or, is it that dudes in toyota tundras with AKs, NO air force, no tanks, no armor of any kind, no artillery, etc, makes for a more effective fighting force than, like, HAVING all of those things?
Or...could it be...the Ukrainians WANT their freedom more than the Afghans?
Afghans don't do pitched battles, army vs. army. Afghans have been hiding beside a road waiting for their enemy to come along since Alexander the Great. Arabs, Mongols, Persians, Brits, Russians, Americans, the Afghans have fought them all on their own terms and prevailed. Look at now- 20 years, four American Presidents, thousands of lives and trillions of dollars later and it's like nobody else has ever been there except Afghans.So, there was much ado about how we "abandoned" the Afghans, and how it was OUR fault that they were over run, and therefore, our fault, that they are subdued, tortured, and in general, abused by the Taliban.
So, my question is fairly simple. Was/is the taliban a better army than Russia? Ukraine is still holding out, despite not having BILLIONS in US arms, munitions, and equipment, not to mention, 20 years of training....against RUSSIA. The Afghan army folded in 3 days. Is that because they sucked at fighting? Is there something about ukrainians that make them great at fighting? Or, is it that dudes in toyota tundras with AKs, NO air force, no tanks, no armor of any kind, no artillery, etc, makes for a more effective fighting force than, like, HAVING all of those things?
Or...could it be...the Ukrainians WANT their freedom more than the Afghans?
So, there was much ado about how we "abandoned" the Afghans, and how it was OUR fault that they were over run, and therefore, our fault, that they are subdued, tortured, and in general, abused by the Taliban.
So, my question is fairly simple. Was/is the taliban a better army than Russia? Ukraine is still holding out, despite not having BILLIONS in US arms, munitions, and equipment, not to mention, 20 years of training....against RUSSIA. The Afghan army folded in 3 days. Is that because they sucked at fighting? Is there something about ukrainians that make them great at fighting? Or, is it that dudes in toyota tundras with AKs, NO air force, no tanks, no armor of any kind, no artillery, etc, makes for a more effective fighting force than, like, HAVING all of those things?
Or...could it be...the Ukrainians WANT their freedom more than the Afghans?
Wanting freedom? Too many circumstances are different. Afghans were forced to decide with whether living under the tribal law of the Taliban was more evil, or whether living under a US war against the Taliban with uncertain prospects, in which US-helpers faced certain torture and people who kept their heads down didn't, was more evil. That's just one little tidbit.Or...could it be...the Ukrainians WANT their freedom more than the Afghans?
Did Ukraine do that?Hmm… how long would you continue to work with no paycheck (your boss left the country with millions) and after your foreign support crews had left the country? Might that be a good time to sell your (company provided) tools and go find another job?
Did Ukraine do that?
They could. The free shit they're getting is expensive.
So, there was much ado about how we "abandoned" the Afghans, and how it was OUR fault that they were over run, and therefore, our fault, that they are subdued, tortured, and in general, abused by the Taliban.
So, my question is fairly simple. Was/is the taliban a better army than Russia? Ukraine is still holding out, despite not having BILLIONS in US arms, munitions, and equipment, not to mention, 20 years of training....against RUSSIA. The Afghan army folded in 3 days. Is that because they sucked at fighting? Is there something about ukrainians that make them great at fighting? Or, is it that dudes in toyota tundras with AKs, NO air force, no tanks, no armor of any kind, no artillery, etc, makes for a more effective fighting force than, like, HAVING all of those things?
Or...could it be...the Ukrainians WANT their freedom more than the Afghans?
Citation for this?I don't think you understand the fundamentals about these wars. It just goes to show how ignorant you are.
In the Afghan conflict, US taxpayers were funding both sides of the war. US taxpayers were funding the US military, and US taxpayers were funding the Taliban
Billions of US taxpayer dollar were going to Pakistan, which was secretly funding the Taliban, which was killing US & Afghan military personnel.
How would you expect the Afghan military or the Afghan people to win against an enemy that was being funded by the richest and most powerful country in the world? Even the US military couldn't do that.
"We defeated America, with the help of America"
-unnamed ISI official
Sure just google How To Lose A War in the Most ****ing Stupidest Way PossibleCitation for this?
I did that, but only a bunch of pro Ukrain, anti Russia stories popped up.Sure just google How To Lose A War in the Most ****ing Stupidest Way Possible
The difference is stark. Afghanistan through down their weapons and submitted without a whimper. **** em. They don't deserve freedom and liberty if they won't fight for it. Ukraine picked up guns and took on the worlds 2nd largest military to retain their freedom. They deserve the liberty they fight for and deserve our help.So, there was much ado about how we "abandoned" the Afghans, and how it was OUR fault that they were over run, and therefore, our fault, that they are subdued, tortured, and in general, abused by the Taliban.
So, my question is fairly simple. Was/is the taliban a better army than Russia? Ukraine is still holding out, despite not having BILLIONS in US arms, munitions, and equipment, not to mention, 20 years of training....against RUSSIA. The Afghan army folded in 3 days. Is that because they sucked at fighting? Is there something about ukrainians that make them great at fighting? Or, is it that dudes in toyota tundras with AKs, NO air force, no tanks, no armor of any kind, no artillery, etc, makes for a more effective fighting force than, like, HAVING all of those things?
Or...could it be...the Ukrainians WANT their freedom more than the Afghans?
I did that, but only a bunch of pro Ukrain, anti Russia stories popped up.
Got anything else?
So, is Fox News, REAL news?Gee, man - I empathize with your spam problem - there's a new war on, and the focus is now on spinning that, so that's what all the search results will pull up.
You may just have to go directly talk to the ISI or even just Washington bureaucrats, and hope they don't shit themselves giggling over what they pulled off.
So, is Fox News, REAL news?
But everything else is fake?
Uh huh.any source I present you will simply be attacked by you as fake, so let's not bother
because none of the content being discussed is anything you're capable of taking issue with
So, there was much ado about how we "abandoned" the Afghans, and how it was OUR fault that they were over run, and therefore, our fault, that they are subdued, tortured, and in general, abused by the Taliban.
So, my question is fairly simple. Was/is the taliban a better army than Russia? Ukraine is still holding out, despite not having BILLIONS in US arms, munitions, and equipment, not to mention, 20 years of training....against RUSSIA. The Afghan army folded in 3 days. Is that because they sucked at fighting? Is there something about ukrainians that make them great at fighting? Or, is it that dudes in toyota tundras with AKs, NO air force, no tanks, no armor of any kind, no artillery, etc, makes for a more effective fighting force than, like, HAVING all of those things?
Or...could it be...the Ukrainians WANT their freedom more than the Afghans?
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