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Being in a locked car, isn’t unsecuredThey leave their guns in their cars and unsecured.

Being in a locked car, isn’t unsecuredThey leave their guns in their cars and unsecured.
I’ve never had a center console that locked nor have my kidsMy center console is lockable and meets the criteria under the law.
As I am sure the glove compartment would also be if lockable.
It's just your example wasn't of the personal property of a private citizen being stolen.
Yes. I can possess and use a motor vehicle on my property without a driver's license, insurance, safety equipment, pollution control devices.
Controlled substance =/= constitutionally protected right.
It doesn’t. Which is why the govt can’t force you to store it somewhere.
Red herring.
How is it a red herring?
No.Are you not arguing constitutional rights are absolute and unlimited?
There are already restrictions and limitations. However, the government gets no say in how I store my constitutionally protected property, in or on my property.Or do you agree that certain restrictions and limitations are allowed and should actually be implemented where required?
There is no age limit allowed for in the constitution.Say not allowing a minor to carry a firearm for protection?
Notice how you couldn’t rebut the fact there is no age limitation allowed in the constitution? I noticed that too.
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Red Herring
Attempting to redirect the argument to another issue that to which the person doing the redirecting can better respond. While it is similar to the avoiding the issue fallacy, the red herring is a deliberate diversion of attention with the intention of trying to abandon the original argument.www.logicallyfallacious.com
No.
There are already restrictions and limitations. However, the government gets no say in how I store my constitutionally protected property, in or on my property.
There is no age limit allowed for in the constitution.
Felons can’t possess firearms. Firearms can be restricted on private property etc.How are there restrictions or limitations while maintaining adherence to the second amendment as written, in your opinion?
It’s not a belief. It’s constitutional law.I'm trying to understand how you believe there are restrictions and limitations while arguing no further restrictions or limitations are permissible?
There are already restrictions. And there is no age limit allowed in the constitution.If you don't believe restrictions or limitations should be permissible, then we are back to my point about supporting toddlers carrying a firearm for protection.
Asked and answered.So how is this a red herring?
Complete red herring.Loaded question,, maybe - but one that deserves to be answered.
Felons can’t possess firearms. Firearms can be restricted on private property etc.
It’s not a belief. It’s constitutional law.
There are already restrictions. And there is no age limit allowed in the constitution.
Asked and answered.
Complete red herring.
I will if I have an officer ask me if he can fine me please.Be a irresponsible gun owner and lie then.
By the police witch?And hope your lie is not detected and instead of a possible $500 fine you might get a $5,000 fine and maybe 18 months in jail for lying to law enforcement.
Pointing out the absurd is not a red herring as you claim, but since it's not possible to reconcile the whole restrictions are not allowed but there are restrictions, there is an attempt to just wave it all away.
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Being that you agree there are different rights between a vehicle that is parked on your property vs a public roadway, why would you not expect the same rules to apply to storage of a firearm in a vehicle on a public roadway vs your home?
Who should be responsible if a vehicle gets a broken window for any variety of reasons (car accident, rock kicked up by a passing vehicle, hail storm, vandalism, etc.) and a minor comes across a firearm that is not secured in the vehicle and accidently hurts/kills someone? The chance of that happening when your vehicle is parked in a public area is exponentially higher compared to your private property.
The argument for a firearm in an unattended vehicle used for self-defense doesn't really work, like someone would have to make it back to the unattended vehicle to obtain the firearm. Expecting a firearm to be secured when not in someone's direct control or supervision is not unreasonable.
Your post was a red herring. It’s why I called you on it.Pointing out the absurd is not a red herring
I didn’t make a claim.as you claim,
This is called a strawman.but since it's not possible to reconcile the whole restrictions are not allowed but there are restrictions, there is an attempt to just wave it all away.
Was definitely a common sight when I was coming up and some were taken but it was pretty rare as I recall. Respect for your fellow man and his property has certainly declined over the decades.When I was a kid, this is how the pros got their guns stolen in parking lots.
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Yeah, a number of people didn't even lock their cars back then. It was a different time in small towns. There was still plenty of bad shit, but it was a different flavor.Was definitely a common sight when I was coming up and some were taken but it was pretty rare as I recall. Respect for your fellow man and his property has certainly declined over the decades.
I’ve never had a center console that locked nor have my kids
Perhaps one day you will.
It's not like they would know.just remember - plead ignorance if you're the victim of a vehicle break in and they steal your gun
Otherwise you're asking them can you please find me I have too much money.don't admit to having one in the car, leaving one in the car ... "I don't recall" is what you say
just remember - plead ignorance if you're the victim of a vehicle break in and they steal your gun
don't admit to having one in the car, leaving one in the car ... "I don't recall" is what you say
As a basic rule, don't talk to the police.
At least not unless your under counsel.
especially now that as a victim of a crime/car break in I can be fined for being a victim, dang straight
deny, deny, deny