Coalition airstrikes underway against multiple Iranian-backed militia sites in Iraq

[JANFU]

You misunderstood the purpose of your post. Probably due to me not being clear. I was agreeing with you and adding to it. The person I was targeting with that comparison was the person you quotes

OK, no issues here

 

[apdst]

So...you lied?

Nowhere was there any mention of our troops or their actions.

Thanks.

Humblepi said,

Just as I said days after the rocket strike in Iraq a day ago that killed 3 soldiers, from the US and the UK. The Republicans need a war to boost the oil market. Iran has been set up as the fall guy.

Then, you agreed.

Fall guy is a colloquial phrase that refers to a person to whom blame is deliberately and falsely attributed in order to deflect blame from another party.

Fall guy - Wikipedia

If Iran is the fall guy, that means she is being falsely blamed for the attack. i.e. it's a false flag operation.

 

[JANFU]

Thank you.

No need to thank me, just telling the truth

 

[Lursa]

Humblepi said,
Then, you agreed.

If Iran is the fall guy, that means she is being falsely blamed for the attack. i.e. it's a false flag operation.

Nope, it means we are blaming them for the bombing that occurred and that Iran continues to make bad decisions regarding the US. And my other response confirms it.

Agreed.

Iran isnt helping themselves tho.

:mrgreen:

Nice try tho.

 

[apdst]

Nope, it means we are blaming them for the bombing that occurred and that Iran continues to make bad decisions regarding the US. And my other response confirms it.

Nice try tho.

Calling them the fall guy means they're being falsely accused. You agreed with HP that Iran is "being set up as the fall guy"

 

[Lursa]

Calling them the fall guy means they're being falsely accused. You agreed with HP that Iran is "being set up as the fall guy"

Too bad you cant read better. I didnt call them any such thing.

Agreed.

Iran isnt helping themselves tho.

Fall guy just means getting blamed. And this administration continually blames them :doh

Just because you refuse to admit my response is accurate doesnt mean it isnt.

Another giant fail for you...along with your abuse of the English language.

 

[cpwill]

It was her first post in the thread. :lamo

I'm not a mind reader and my PREVIOUS response had nothing to do with any LATER posts she made :doh

Sure. It is indeed possible that you didn't understand the implication of what she later laid out in post 70 that

yes, I think the US attacked itself and blames Iran for it just so they can start a conflict that fires up the oil prices again.

Which is why I explicitly asked you if you believed her CT idiocy in Post 115:

....you agree with that CT idiocy?

To which you replied:

I think it's possible, sure.

If you now wish to adjust your position to make it clear that you do not, in fact, agree, that Iran is being made the fall guy, I would welcome you doing so, and ask only why, when explicitly asked if you believed in that CT nonsense, you chose to respond otherwise.

 

[apdst]

Too bad you cant read better. I didnt call them any such thing.



Fall guy just means getting blamed. And this administration continually blames them :doh

Just because you refuse to admit my response is accurate doesnt mean it isnt.

Another giant fail for you...along with your abuse of the English language.

You agreed with HP's statement. "Fall guy" means getting falsely blamed. I posted proof of that.

 

[cpwill]

Too bad you cant read better. I didnt call them any such thing.

Fall guy just means getting blamed

No, it doesn't. As has already been pointed out to you, being a "fall guy" means being falsely accused in order to deflect blame from another party. HumblePie was clear what she meant:

yes, I think the US attacked itself and blames Iran for it just so they can start a conflict that fires up the oil prices again.

HumblePi was advocating a bonkers conspiracy theory - but the language she used in doing so was correct for her purpose :shrug:

And this administration continually blames them :doh

Yes. Just as Trump is blamed for stupid things showing up on his twitter account. Because he is actually at fault for it.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Yeah. Iran is probably going to lose an order or three of magnitude more people to covid19 than it will to US military strikes.

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Awful. I hope they recover soon. And stop shooting rockets.

 

[cpwill]

Awful. I hope they recover soon. And stop shooting rockets.

Concur and Concur.

 

[Lursa]

Sure. It is indeed possible that you didn't understand the implication of what she later laid out in post 70 that



Which is why I explicitly asked you if you believed her CT idiocy in Post 115:



To which you replied:



If you now wish to adjust your position to make it clear that you do not, in fact, agree, that Iran is being made the fall guy, I would welcome you doing so, and ask only why, when explicitly asked if you believed in that CT nonsense, you chose to respond otherwise.

Sorry I was just supporting my post.

Now when will you post my quote and bold where I actually did what you claim? You have tripled down now, when a simple quote could prove you correct. Why wont you do that? Post the quote and any reference to troops, their actions, false flags.

You can lie and make up what you want to say I meant...but it only proves my other claim correct: about your extreme convolutions and misinterpretations to escape commitment and being wrong.

keep it up...every one of your posts is sealing that one tight.

 

[Lursa]

You agreed with HP's statement. "Fall guy" means getting falsely blamed. I posted proof of that.

It means getting blamed and our administration does that all the time...you still fail.

You posted proof that supports my response. :2wave:

 

[Lursa]

No, it doesn't. As has already been pointed out to you, being a "fall guy" means being falsely accused in order to deflect blame from another party. HumblePie was clear what she meant:

HumblePi was advocating a bonkers conspiracy theory - but the language she used in doing so was correct for her purpose :shrug:

Yes. Just as Trump is blamed for stupid things showing up on his twitter account. Because he is actually at fault for it.

No need to rewrite:

It was her first post in the thread. :lamo

I'm not a mind reader and my PREVIOUS response had nothing to do with any LATER posts she made :doh

Good lord this is ludicrous AND!!! (gotta love it) you are 100% proving what I wrote about extreme contortions and misinterpretations to avoid looking wrong.

Golden! :lol: Go ahead, keep doubling down.​

Fall guy is just someone who gets blamed...and this administration does that all the time. and my response (which you cut) confirmed my intent. :mrgreen:

(Good god you've fallen so low that you are grasping at Adpsts' fantasies. Step back for a minute, jeebus!)

 

[apdst]

It means getting blamed and our administration does that all the time...you still fail.

You posted proof that supports my response. :2wave:

Falsely blamed. Do I need to post the definition of a fall guy, again? :lamo

 

[cpwill]

Sorry I was just supporting my post.

Now when will you post my quote and bold where I actually did what you claim?

I've posted it repeatedly, including in the item you are responding to, and as I pointed out - that indeed is the implication of the claim you chose to agree with and then double down on. Which is why I asked you repeatedly if you wanted to adjust or readdress it, which, thus far, you have refused to do (at least, to me).

You have tripled down now, when a simple quote could prove you correct. Why wont you do that? Post the quote and any reference to troops, their actions, false flags.

Sure. Remember that post when HumblePi said that Iran was being used as a fall guy? and you agreed? And remember later, when you were asked explicitly if you agreed with the conspiracy theory and you stated "I think it's possible, sure"? Those would be the references.

And, again, if you now want to adjust those positions and explain that you meant to communicate something different, that's fine. Just do so.

 

[Lursa]

As I pointed out - that indeed is the implication of the claim. Which is why I asked you repeatedly if you wanted to adjust or readdress it, which, thus far, you have refused to do.

Sure. Remember that post when HumblePi said that Iran was being used as a fall guy? and you agreed? And remember later, when you were asked explicitly if you agreed with the conspiracy theory and you stated "I think it's possible, sure"? Those would be the references.

And, again, if you now want to adjust those positions and explain that you meant to communicate something different, that's fine. Just do so.

You can prove your claim solidly...why dont you do so?

Post the quote and bold where I referred to our troops, their actions, or false flags.

It would take alot less writing than you're doing...so why not do it? Or admit you jumped in with your own poorly drawn conclusions.

It was her first post in the thread. :lamo

I'm not a mind reader and my PREVIOUS response had nothing to do with any LATER posts she made :doh

Good lord this is ludicrous AND!!! (gotta love it) you are 100% proving what I wrote about extreme contortions and misinterpretations to avoid looking wrong.

Golden! :lol: Go ahead, keep doubling down.​

 

[Lursa]

Falsely blamed. Do I need to post the definition of a fall guy, again? :lamo

We blame them all the time and as for falsely, sure I can imagine that too. The Donald never did provide the 'imminent' threat behind our last bombing.

You fail...keep it up, it wont change that fact.

 

[apdst]

We blame them all the time and as for falsely, sure I can imagine that too. The Donald never did provide the 'imminent' threat behind our last bombing.

You fail...keep it up, it wont change that fact.

Finally! :lamo

 

[Lursa]

I've posted it repeatedly, including in the item you are responding to, and as I pointed out - that indeed is the implication of the claim you chose to agree with and then double down on. Which is why I asked you repeatedly if you wanted to adjust or readdress it, which, thus far, you have refused to do (at least, to me).


Sure. Remember that post when HumblePi said that Iran was being used as a fall guy? and you agreed? And remember later, when you were asked explicitly if you agreed with the conspiracy theory and you stated "I think it's possible, sure"? Those would be the references.

And, again, if you now want to adjust those positions and explain that you meant to communicate something different, that's fine. Just do so.

Please give the post number where you showed that I referred to troops, their actions, or false flags.

it's not in post 115. So...where did you show this, bolded? ^^^^

(btw, I'm not even reading your posts.) You can prove yourself right or not...but that's as far as I'm going until you do one or the other. Why wont you do so?

It was her first post in the thread. :lamo

I'm not a mind reader and my PREVIOUS response had nothing to do with any LATER posts she made :doh

Good lord this is ludicrous AND!!! (gotta love it) you are 100% proving what I wrote about extreme contortions and misinterpretations to avoid looking wrong.

Golden! :lol: Go ahead, keep doubling down.​

 

[Lursa]

Finally! :lamo

The example I mentioned happened...that was not 'imagined.'

See? Your ability to read is so poor you continually fail.

 

[apdst]

The example I mentioned happened...that was not 'imagined.'

See? Your ability to read is so poor you continually fail.

Your constant failure has to be masked with personal attacks.

 

[cpwill]

Fall guy is just someone who gets blamed

No it isn't "just" someone who gets "blamed". It's specifically someone who gets falsely blamed in order to deflect blame from another.

Definitions.Net: A fall guy is a person who is used as a scapegoat; someone who ends up taking the blame for the actions of another person or group.

CollinsDictionary.com:: If someone is the fall guy, they are blamed for something which they did not do or which is not their fault.

Moreover, HumblePi clearly used "fall guy" correctly - to mean that Iran was being blamed for something the U.S. had secretly done.

Just as I said days after the rocket strike in Iraq a day ago that killed 3 soldiers, from the US and the UK. The Republicans need a war to boost the oil market. Iran has been set up as the fall guy.

That, after all, is what it means to be "set up" as the "fall guy". Again, it's explicit:

I think the US attacked itself and blames Iran for it just so they can start a conflict that fires up the oil prices again.

:shrug: etc. so on and so forth.

Good god you've fallen so low that you are grasping at Adpsts' fantasies.

If you don't like it, don't allow yourself to get glommed onto a position so untenable that apdst can make you look foolish for defending it, and, if you do, quickly apologize, adjust, and clarify your intended position.

 

[Lursa]

Your constant failure has to be masked with personal attacks.

Nope...just posting facts. You read poorly and fail to comprehend.

Proof: you are telling me what I meant, and failing because you are not reading properly. :mrgreen:

 

[Lursa]

No it isn't "just" someone who gets "blamed". It's specifically someone who gets falsely blamed in order to deflect blame from another.

Definitions.Net: A fall guy is a person who is used as a scapegoat; someone who ends up taking the blame for the actions of another person or group.

CollinsDictionary.com:: If someone is the fall guy, they are blamed for something which they did not do or which is not their fault.

Moreover, HumblePi clearly used "fall guy" correctly - to mean that Iran was being blamed for something the U.S. had secretly done.



That, after all, is what it means to be "set up" as the "fall guy". Again, it's explicit:



:shrug: etc. so on and so forth.




If you don't like it, don't allow yourself to get glommed onto a position so untenable that apdst can make you look foolish for defending it, and, if you do, quickly apologize, adjust, and clarify your intended position.

Oops, sorry! Then I guess I didnt know what it meant. :mrgreen:

You are "positive" I knew it meant 'false?' Sorry, I've been using it for about 40 yrs and only thought about 'blame'. So...you think you can get out of the HUGE hole you've dug for yourself by 'telling' me I knew otherwise? :lamo

Just how much more effort are you going to put yourself thru here? Why not just post the quote and bold where I referred to our troops, their actions, or false flag.

And I'll just keep cutting and pasting my responses. Easier than your desperate contortions.

It was her first post in the thread. :lamo

I'm not a mind reader and my PREVIOUS response had nothing to do with any LATER posts she made :doh

Good lord this is ludicrous AND!!! (gotta love it) you are 100% proving what I wrote about extreme contortions and misinterpretations to avoid looking wrong.

Golden! LOL Go ahead, keep doubling down.​