C'mon guys (and gals), women you admired?

[SNOWFLAKE]

Lmao... I knew someone wouldn't be able to help themselves.

It's always the same crop of people. You just have to shrug your shoulders and be thankful you aren't that shallow.

 

[Sweden]

Yes, a cleaner environment is going to spell the end of us all. Oh, the humanity.

I tend to believe that those who would put money ahead of health are more dangerous, but that's just me.

The anti pollution and clean air legislation of the 1950s and 60s in the UK had absolutely nothing to do with the 'climate change' cult which hs nothnig to with cleanliness or health. Are you one of those who thinks that carbon and carbon dioxide are pollutants?

The sheer ignorance of the Greta groupies neevr ceases to amaze me.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Are you one of those who thinks that carbon and carbon dioxide are pollutants?

Are you one of those who doesn't understand what carbon dioxide does to the atmosphere? Come on, surely not. I mean I could ask any high school student anywhere and they could tell me. How could it be that you can't?? I think you must be joking. It's the ONLY answer.

 

[Sweden]

Are you one of those who doesn't understand what carbon dioxide does to the atmosphere? Come on, surely not. I mean I could ask any high school student anywhere and they could tell me. How could it be that you can't?? I think you must be joking. It's the ONLY answer.

Carbon dioxide increases plant growth. Please, please tell me that you are only joking
and that you really like plants.

 

[Sweden]

Ok.



What was she supposed to do for you exactly?

QE II could have kept her coronation oath and refused to sign a bill making foreign laws superior to those passed by her own elected British Parliament. She would probably then have been forced to abdicate but keeping one's word sometimes involves making a sacrifice.

 

[Dans La Lune]

J.K Rowling. Unemployed single mother living in poverty, creates stories loved by millions and becomes wealthy? How is she a candidate for the worst?

Because she's a hateful person who uses her celebrity to punch down on those with the least power in society, and that's why @Sweden likes her. It isn't because she writes crappy books.

 

[Allan]

QE II could have kept her coronation oath and refused to sign a bill making foreign laws superior to those passed by her own elected British Parliament. She would probably then have been forced to abdicate but keeping one's word sometimes involves making a sacrifice.

I see.

So my perspective is that the Monarch (or GG) should always accede to the legislative branch, except in the most extreme circumstances. Parliament is allowed to make mistakes if you will.

But I can understand if you think joining the EU was a bridge too far. Others think the same about Brexit.

 

[Allan]

@Sweden below is the Coronation Oath. Which section applies?

Elizabeth R

I solemnly promise and swear to govern the Peoples of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the Union of South Africa, Pakistan and Ceylon, and of my Possessions and the other Territories to any of them belonging or pertaining, according to their respective laws and customs.

I will to my power cause Law and Justice, in Mercy, to be executed in all my judgements.

I will to the utmost of my power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel. I will to the utmost of my power maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law. And I will maintain and preserve inviolably the settlement of the Church of England, and the doctrine, worship, discipline, and government thereof, as by law established in England. And I will preserve unto the Bishops and Clergy of England, and to the Churches there committed to their charge, all such rights and privileges as by law do or shall appertain to them or any of them.

The things which I have here before promised, I will perform and keep.

So help me God.

 

[Sweden]

I see.

So my perspective is that the Monarch (or GG) should always accede to the legislative branch, except in the most extreme circumstances. Parliament is allowed to make mistakes if you will.

But I can understand if you think joining the EU was a bridge too far. Others think the same about Brexit.

Giving away a nation's sovereignty meets my definition of an'extreme circumstance'. I think you would agree that giving sovereignty over Canada ans Canadians o the USA would also be an extreme act.

 

[Allan]

Giving away a nation's sovereignty meets my definition of an'extreme circumstance'. I think you would agree that giving sovereignty over Canada ans Canadians o the USA would also be an extreme act.

It would be very extreme but if Parliament voted for it I'd not expect the GG to interfere.

Or maybe she would

The current GG is indigenous so she just might

 

[Sweden]

@Sweden below is the Coronation Oath. Which section applies?

Elizabeth R

I solemnly promise and swear to govern the Peoples of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the Union of South Africa, Pakistan and Ceylon, and of my Possessions and the other Territories to any of them belonging or pertaining, according to their respective laws and customs.

I will to my power cause Law and Justice, in Mercy, to be executed in all my judgements.

I will to the utmost of my power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel. I will to the utmost of my power maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law. And I will maintain and preserve inviolably the settlement of the Church of England, and the doctrine, worship, discipline, and government thereof, as by law established in England. And I will preserve unto the Bishops and Clergy of England, and to the Churches there committed to their charge, all such rights and privileges as by law do or shall appertain to them or any of them.

The things which I have here before promised, I will perform and keep.

So help me God.

The entire oath is based on the premise that the UK an the other states of which Elizabeth II was sovereign at the time it was taken would continue to govern themselves.

 

[Allan]

The entire oath is based on the premise that the UK an the other states of which Elizabeth II was sovereign at the time it was taken would continue to govern themselves.

There's nothing in the Oath itself relating to that though.

So if you want to take the position that QEII should have opposed the measure the Oath won't help you.

 

[Sweden]

There's nothing in the Oath itself relating to that though.

So if you want to take the position that QEII should have opposed the measure the Oath won't help you.

I understand your point. I can only repeat though that the oath rests four square on the continued right of the United Kingdom o govern itself.

 

[Allan]

I understand your point. I can only repeat though that the oath rests four square on the continued right of the United Kingdom o govern itself.

It was always hard to know what Liz was thinking but I'm sure she had reservations, as did Charles.

She probably grumbled (to herself and the corgis) "they'd never get this shit past Grandpa".

 

[BitterPill]

I've long thought Condoleezza Rice would make for an excellent POTUS.

Certainly, she'd know better than to kowtow to Russia.

Anita Bryant who simply wanted to 'Save Our Children' and was then pied and eventually canceled by the gays.

MAGA.

 

[Allan]

Anita Bryant who simply wanted to 'Save Our Children' and was then pied then canceled by the gays.

MAGA.

The pie thrower's timing was epic.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Carbon dioxide increases plant growth. Please, please tell me that you are only joking
and that you really like plants.

How do I reply to such ignorance? When, as I stated, every high school kid can give you an answer. The fact that you can't is kind of sad.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Because she's a hateful person who uses her celebrity to punch down on those with the least power in society, and that's why @Sweden likes her. It isn't because she writes crappy books.

I think she is totally misunderstood by the LGBTQ+ community. As a survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault by her first husband, she is all for biological women's safe spaces in such cases. She was then attacked by the LGBTQ+ community for this and she has stood her ground.
I see both sides to this as I had many students who were LGBTQ+ and they often had their own safe spaces where others were not welcome.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Whether from history or currently still alive, I am sure all the guys here have a list of women they admired.

Not for their looks or "star" power, but for what they endured and accomplished.

My list is a bit eclectic, but just the same, here it is:

Malala Yousafzai
Helen Keller
Eleanor Roosevelt
Joan of Arc
Florence Nightingale
Marie Curie
Rosa Parks
Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Now I realize there are other women, those who deserve their names to be better known, so maybe some of you can find those names for me.

Who would be on YOUR list?

I like your list.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Good list!

I'd add:

Temple Grandin
Judy Heumann
Ada Lovelace
Rosalind Franklin
Judy Singer
And Greta Thurnburg... just to piss off the usual suspects.

I like yours, too.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Marie Curie
Rosa Parks
Nellie Bly
Anne Frank
Mary Wollstonecraft
And her daughter, Mary Shelley
Zora Neale Hurston
Katherine Graham
Rachel Carson
Greta Thunberg
Margaret Atwood
Ida B. Wells
Hana Mandlíková (Best legs I've ever seen in my whole entire life. And a tennis champ.)
Dolley Madison

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

I like yours, too.

And Greta Thurnburg... just to piss off the usual suspects.

And guess what happened? The usual suspects got pissed off

 

[LouC]

Wish I could add my mother to such a list, but alas, that would be hypocrisy.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I'll add her to my list.

She's definitely one of the most important ones as regards the current infection in our society right now.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Janet Yellen
Queen Elizabeth II
Angela Merkel
Jane Pauley
Gina Raimondo
Emily Carr
Claudia Pardo
Mahalia Jackson
Queen Victoria*
Christiane Amanpour
Helen Caldicott
Anne Murray
Marie Curie

*Considered the "mother of Confederation" she supported greater independence for Canada and is partly responsible for the system of government we operate under today.

If we're feting Mahalia Jackson I'd like to add Re-Re...Aretha Franklin blew everyone's mind when she did Nessun Dorma at The Grammys.