Close to achieving warp speed

[grip]

I read this article where it sounds like a scientist named Erik Lentz may be onto a solution for warp speed. This would change everything though is probably way off from even being tested.

Warp drives: Physicists give chances of faster-than-light space travel a boost

Faster than light travel is the only way humans could ever get to other stars in a reasonable amount of time. Les Bossinas/NASA/Wikimedia CommonsThe closest star to Earth is Proxima Centauri. It is about 4.25 light-years away, or about 25 trillion miles (40 trillion km). The fastest ever...

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My interpretation of the theory is that a spaceship would create a bubble, curving spacetime around it, compressing spacetime in front of the spaceship while expanding it behind to reduce distances. By compressing the distance in front, the ship would appear to travel faster than superluminal speed.

It would take tremendous negative energy to generate the solitons for this bubble. A soliton is a self-reinforcing wave packet that maintains its shape while it propagates at a constant velocity. The solitons are also shown to be capable of being sourced from the stress–energy of a conducting plasma and classical electromagnetic fields.

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[ASHES]

"Close"

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I don't believe promises, I like demonstrations.

 

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"Close"

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I don't believe promises, I like demonstrations.

Not very polite are you? It's at least a potential hypothesis, better than any other I've seen.

 

[ASHES]

Not very polite are you? It's at least a potential hypothesis, better than any other I've seen.

Science isn't polite, it's evidence based peer review. Straightforward skepticism of claims, even non-fantastical ones, is the norm.

 

[mrjurrs]

I read this article where it sounds like a scientist named Erik Lentz may be onto a solution for warp speed. This would change everything though is probably way off from even being tested.

Warp drives: Physicists give chances of faster-than-light space travel a boost

Faster than light travel is the only way humans could ever get to other stars in a reasonable amount of time. Les Bossinas/NASA/Wikimedia CommonsThe closest star to Earth is Proxima Centauri. It is about 4.25 light-years away, or about 25 trillion miles (40 trillion km). The fastest ever...

news.yahoo.com

My interpretation of the theory is that a spaceship would create a bubble, curving spacetime around it, compressing spacetime in front of the spaceship while expanding it behind to reduce distances. By compressing the distance in front, the ship would appear to travel faster than superluminal speed.

It would take tremendous negative energy to generate the solitons for this bubble. A soliton is a self-reinforcing wave packet that maintains its shape while it propagates at a constant velocity. The solitons are also shown to be capable of being sourced from the stress–energy of a conducting plasma and classical electromagnetic fields.

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Science is so cool. Not holding my breath though.

 

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Science isn't polite, it's evidence based peer review. Straightforward skepticism of claims, even non-fantastical ones, is the norm.

I didn't say science wasn't polite unless you're saying you're science?

 

[ASHES]

I didn't say science wasn't polite unless you're saying you're science?

Anyone that participates in the process is science.

ASHES has publically thrown down the gauntlet that this is most likely a bunch of nonsense that will be forgotten about or eviscerated in peer review.

It will be demonstrated, and my opinion could change, or it will disappear into the aether, like so many other fantastical science claims the non-science media gloms onto, perpetuates, and never mentions again.

 

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Anyone that participates in the process is science.

ASHES has publically thrown down the gauntlet that this is most likely a bunch of nonsense that will be forgotten about or eviscerated in peer review.

It will be demonstrated, and my opinion could change, or it will disappear into the aether, like so many other fantastical science claims the non-science media gloms onto, perpetuates, and never mentions again.

Or, some brilliant young physicist could build upon the concept to actually create a warp drive, which the funding of DARPA or some other gov agency may support. This planet's resources will force us to either reduce the population, solve problems with tech or seek off-world colonization.

I imagine many people called Einstein a nutjob before his papers.

 

[ASHES]

Or, some brilliant young physicist could build upon the concept to actually create a warp drive, which the funding of DARPA or some other gov agency may support. This planet's resources will force us to either reduce the population, solve problems with tech or seek off-world colonization.

I imagine many people called Einstein a nutjob before his papers.

Exactly. Einstein showed his receipt and earned his reputation. This guy is talking.

 

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Exactly. Einstein showed his receipt and earned his reputation. This guy is talking.

No, he published a paper. The link is also in the OP.

Breaking the warp barrier: hyper-fast solitons in Einstein–Maxwell-plasma theory​

 

[ataraxia]

No, he published a paper. The link is also in the OP.

Breaking the warp barrier: hyper-fast solitons in Einstein–Maxwell-plasma theory​

This is interesting. I guess we will see.

 

[ASHES]

No, he published a paper. The link is also in the OP.

Breaking the warp barrier: hyper-fast solitons in Einstein–Maxwell-plasma theory​

Publishing "a paper" does not mean "we are close to achieving warp speed."

 

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Publishing "a paper" does not mean "we are close to achieving warp speed."

Says who, you? Are you a physicist?

 

[ASHES]

Says who, you? Are you a physicist?

I'm waiting to hear a consensus of physicists saying it, not one with an obvious bias. That's what peer review is for. He'll be weeded out, or he won't, but it is way too soon to be making such fantastical claims as "we are close" to warp drive.

How many papers, and actual demonstrations of a Hyperloop have we seen? Lots. We're still no closer to a functional Hyperloop system then we were before all the fantastic claims of traveling across the country at 700kph in a vacuum tube were made over a hundred years ago.

 

[Fishking]

I read this article where it sounds like a scientist named Erik Lentz may be onto a solution for warp speed. This would change everything though is probably way off from even being tested.

Warp drives: Physicists give chances of faster-than-light space travel a boost

Faster than light travel is the only way humans could ever get to other stars in a reasonable amount of time. Les Bossinas/NASA/Wikimedia CommonsThe closest star to Earth is Proxima Centauri. It is about 4.25 light-years away, or about 25 trillion miles (40 trillion km). The fastest ever...

news.yahoo.com

My interpretation of the theory is that a spaceship would create a bubble, curving spacetime around it, compressing spacetime in front of the spaceship while expanding it behind to reduce distances. By compressing the distance in front, the ship would appear to travel faster than superluminal speed.

It would take tremendous negative energy to generate the solitons for this bubble. A soliton is a self-reinforcing wave packet that maintains its shape while it propagates at a constant velocity. The solitons are also shown to be capable of being sourced from the stress–energy of a conducting plasma and classical electromagnetic fields.

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I always think about our limited ability to generate electricity for these types of things. Reliable, strong, and lasting power has been a limit to many of our accomplishments. If we could solve that problem it would not only make more space advancement possible but it would solve a lot of problems, right here on terra firma.

Also.

 

[Fishking]

Publishing "a paper" does not mean "we are close to achieving warp speed."

Ugh...go away.

 

[ASHES]

Ugh...go away.

How many years do you consider "close"? 2? 5? 10? Guaranteed we won't have "warp engines" as popularly known if you consider anything less than 10 years "close."

 

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I'm waiting to hear a consensus of physicists saying it, not one with an obvious bias. That's what peer review is for. He'll be weeded out, or he won't, but it is way too soon to be making such fantastical claims as "we are close" to warp drive.

How many papers, and actual demonstrations of a Hyperloop have we seen? Lots. We're still no closer to a functional Hyperloop system then we were before all the fantastic claims of traveling across the country at 700kph in a vacuum tube were made over a hundred years ago.

The second sentence of my OP:
"This would change everything though is probably way off from even being tested."

The thread title should've included a question mark but I get tired of starting too many threads that way.
And with a potential theory on board, we're a helluva lot closer than before his paper.
Any other complaints?

 

[grip]

I always think about our limited ability to generate electricity for these types of things. Reliable, strong, and lasting power has been a limit to many of our accomplishments. If we could solve that problem it would not only make more space advancement possible but it would solve a lot of problems, right here on terra firma.

Also.

The paper says that the energy or solitons would be generated by conducting plasma and electromagnetic fields.
A soliton is a self-reinforcing wave packet that maintains its shape while it propagates at a constant velocity.

 

[ASHES]

The second sentence of my OP:
"This would change everything though is probably way off from even being tested."

The thread title should've included a question mark but I get tired of starting too many threads that way.
And with a potential theory on board, we're a helluva lot closer than before his paper.
Any other complaints?

The title of your thread is misleading and most likely wrong. This paragraph is the only one in the article that describes how close we are to practical warp engines:

Two recent papers – one by Alexey Bobrick and Gianni Martire and another by Erik Lentz – provide solutions that seem to bring warp drives closer to reality.

That is not the same as what your title claims. "Closer to reality" is not "close."

 

[grip]

The title of your thread is misleading and most likely wrong. This paragraph is the only one in the article that describes how close we are to practical warp engines:

Two recent papers – one by Alexey Bobrick and Gianni Martire and another by Erik Lentz – provide solutions that seem to bring warp drives closer to reality.

That is not the same as what your title claims. "Closer to reality" is not "close."

You're probably right that it's far off from reality but so was the atom bomb, moon travel, antibiotics, etc. Covid vaccines should've taken years but when the human race is pressed, we're capable of doing amazing things. And finding a new planetary resource will become so dire that a great leap in physics and practical solutions may soon become reality. Or not, then we will all go back to cavemen days.

 

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How many years do you consider "close"? 2? 5? 10? Guaranteed we won't have "warp engines" as popularly known if you consider anything less than 10 years "close."

That's not the point. It's interesting and you're just shitting all over everything. What value added did you provide?

 

[Fishking]

The paper says that the energy or solitons would be generated by conducting plasma and electromagnetic fields.
A soliton is a self-reinforcing wave packet that maintains its shape while it propagates at a constant velocity.

Is that something that could be used on Earth or is it just a space thing?

 

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Is that something that could be used on Earth or is it just a space thing?

Theoretically, it could work on earth, if the planet's gravity and atmosphere don't interfere. Long distances would seem instantaneous. The problem I see with hypervelocity is that debris becomes dangerous to hull integrity at those speeds. Plotting a course, free of all obstacles, may be difficult unless the craft's energy bubble acts as a deflector shield?

 

[Underestimated]

Hasn't this theory been around for quite a while?