Clive Bundy Shows True Colors [W:234:510]

[Gimmesometruth]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

I am interested. I'm not emotional about it like some people on here. I enjoy the posts. No hypocrisy at all. I haven't been calling Bundy names, except deadbeat. But then again, he isn't stealing from me, so I don't really care how the cattle debate ends up.

Um, not paying for use of federal lands IS theft from you and all of us, and you are now, once again, straying from the topic.

Do you see a pattern here?

 

[WCH]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

He is stealing from you.

I keep hearing that but, exactly what damages has she suffered because of this theft?

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

He is stealing from you.

No he isn't. Not at all. The only one who confiscates money from me is the US government, and my town for property taxes. I wouldn't pay any less of either of them if Bundy paid his fee or not. $1 million when you're talking about a $2.9 trillion revenue collected by Uncle Sam is inconsequential to me.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

I keep hearing that but, exactly what damages has she suffered because of this theft?

None at all.

I wonder if they think everyone who gets money from the government is stealing from us too? I doubt very much anyone's beef with Bundy is that he's "stealing".

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

Um, not paying for use of federal lands IS theft from you and all of us, and you are now, once again, straying from the topic.

Do you see a pattern here?

Wait - Bundy isn't the topic of this thread? Damn. Then why is his name in the subject line? Is it the OTHER Clive Bundy we're supposed to be discussing?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

No he isn't. Not at all. The only one who confiscates money from me is the US government, and my town for property taxes. I wouldn't pay any less of either of them if Bundy paid his fee or not. $1 million when you're talking about a $2.9 trillion revenue collected by Uncle Sam is inconsequential to me.

It goes beyond a million, it is in absolute terms theft in multiple ways (direct payment not collected, court fees, BLM management costs, damage to the environment....).

But you are still straying from the topic, you are avoiding the racism of Bundy.

 

[WCH]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

Um, not paying for use of federal lands IS theft from you and all of us, and you are now, once again, straying from the topic.

Do you see a pattern here?

Yeah, I see redistribution that didn't occur.

 

[Cryptic]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

The difference is the authorities don't normally kill and bury your vehicle.

If the cattle were in too poor of shape to move- and the owner refused to move them himself then they needed to be put down. Shooting is just one way of doing it. They should bill Bundy for the spent rounds as part of the removal fee.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

Wait - Bundy isn't the topic of this thread? Damn. Then why is his name in the subject line? Is it the OTHER Clive Bundy we're supposed to be discussing?

This thread is not about Bundy's kitchen, his lack of hair....or anything else....but his racism.

If you want to discuss anything outside of his racism, go start a thread about it.

This is why we cannot have nice things.

 

[Zyphlin]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

Moderator's Warning:

Couple things. EVERYONE here needs to start being civil and start sticking to the topic. Now, Tres and NIMBY. THESE kind of posts need to stop. Understand that this warning isn't just about this post. I see your little passive aggressive back and forth in this or another thread and it's going to be points: I'm not like you, Nimby dear. I don't poll my neighbors on Bundy. I made a reference to Harry when the discussion turned to how wrong the use of the word "Negro" was. Maybe calamity didn't want to be reminded that old Harry did the same. Hope you're well today Nimby! But I don't use my family in RL to snark people. The best snark can get you is stuck on top of the barbed-wire fence. As she slides the obsessive compulsive puck through the "passive aggressive" hole between the goalkeeper's legs--tb scores !! Oh, and let me make it clear....your opinions or thoughts on each others families or each others uses of their families is not the topic. Additionally, if you think someone is breaking a rule the correct way to address it is to report it. Doing the following isn't the correct way, it's baiting: Oh look, another derail by tb using OWS this time. Your comment is pure troll, and as the OP reinforces, right-wing authoritarianism is at base a racist position. You can't even respond to direct quotes from me to you (you ignored the one to you 2 pages ago), you instead troll with a non-sequitur to someone else's post response. Impressive...not. I suggest going forward people stick to the topic and stop discussing each other. Also note that every topic that says "Bundy" doesn't mean EVERYTHING Bundy is suddenly "on topic". There are a multitude of Bundy threads. This one SPECIFICALLY is discussing his comments. I suggest further comments on this subject at least tie into those comments in some fashion.

 

[AJiveMan]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

Therefore, "deadbeat" is the only name one can call him.

Otherwise, you're "emotional"

or, deadbeat racist, or racist deadbeat, which has a better ring to it?

I wonder if civil rights activists are considering a protest at his nice ranch?

 

[WCH]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

If the cattle were in too poor of shape to move- and the owner refused to move them, then they needed to be put down. Shooting is just one way of doing it.

The ones I saw looked in great shape. Two of those killed were prize bulls.

 

[longview]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

Good grief, where the heck was the government supposed to put those animals as impounded property? Sometimes, the "oppressive" government impounds (siezes) cars of people who dont pay the parking meters. They tow them off, and make you pay the towing fee.

I suspect this whole mess could have been resolved very differently, back in 1993,
when some bureaucrat decided to change the land use, with little regard for contractual obligations.
The parking analogy would only apply to maybe a leased parking spot.
Say the city, has a parking spots that they lease for $1000 a year,
Someone signs and pays for a 10 year lease.
During the 10 years, the city decides the spot should not be used for parking any longer,
and offers the guy some money to buy out the remainder of the lease.
The guy says no, he likes the parking spot and has a contract, that the city accepted money for.
The city revokes the guys parking spot, and does not refund any of his money.
They continue to argue about it, and they guy continues to park there.
At some point the city impounds the car for the guy parking illegally.
The guy has a legally binding contract, saying he can park in that spot,
did the city steal his car?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

Yeah, I see redistribution that didn't occur.

This thing you do, posting REALLY stupid comments, in response to comment directed to others, while you ignore comments to you.......does it really work? Do you get what you want.....cause I don't get it.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

This thread is not about Bundy's kitchen, his lack of hair....or anything else....but his racism.

If you want to discuss anything outside of his racism, go start a thread about it.

This is why we cannot have nice things.

Okay, back to Bundy's comments then.

Bundy said something about welfare keeping blacks down, and blacks not knowing how to pick cotton. Wow, he's racist. We still have racists in this country. I'm shocked.

 

[Sababa]

OH look what that Bundy guy did...

He shot himself in the foot.........

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Let's see who is supporting him tomorrow....

 

[CRUE CAB]

Re: OH look what that Bundy guy did...

He shot himself in the foot.........



Let's see who is supporting him tomorrow....

So? The left has been calling welfare and drugs the new "slavery" for years. Were you mad then? I doubt it.
And so far only one bailing is that sissy boy Sean Hannity.

 

[The German]

Re: OH look what that Bundy guy did...

And people like that complain when you call them racist inbreeds, jokels, rednecks or hillbillies.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Re: OH look what that Bundy guy did...

LOL - I was hoping to laugh because he really did shoot himself in the foot.

But I don't think he figurativel yshot himself in the foot. The other day I was watching the news and one of his guys said "WE've put wome nand child in front of the line so when the feds start shooting we can say 'how cowardly, they shot women and children!'" - or something like that.

LOL

They were already shot in the foot.

 

[The German]

Re: OH look what that Bundy guy did...

So? The left has been calling welfare and drugs the new "slavery" for years. Were you mad then? I doubt it.

Seems like someone is not getting a point.

 

[CRUE CAB]

Re: OH look what that Bundy guy did...

LOL - I was hoping to laugh because he really did shoot himself in the foot.

But I don't think he figurativel yshot himself in the foot. The other day I was watching the news and one of his guys said "WE've put wome nand child in front of the line so when the feds start shooting we can say 'how cowardly, they shot women and children!'" - or something like that.

LOL

They were already shot in the foot.

Bet you didn't even blink and eye when Reid called them "domestic terrorists". But please, make up some hurt feelings.

 

[Sababa]

Re: OH look what that Bundy guy did...

So? The left has been calling welfare and drugs the new "slavery" for years. Were you mad then? I doubt it.
And so far only one bailing is that sissy boy Sean Hannity.

We will see.

Can you show me the left calling welfare slavery?

 

[CRUE CAB]

Re: OH look what that Bundy guy did...

Seems like someone is not getting a point.

Um, yea I get the point. Whatever the left says is ok and all republicans are racists. I get it.

 

[Sababa]

Re: OH look what that Bundy guy did...

LOL - I was hoping to laugh because he really did shoot himself in the foot.

But I don't think he figurativel yshot himself in the foot. The other day I was watching the news and one of his guys said "WE've put wome nand child in front of the line so when the feds start shooting we can say 'how cowardly, they shot women and children!'" - or something like that.

LOL

They were already shot in the foot.

Yes that guy sounded like a lunatic............he should be arrested for being stupid on a sunny day

 

[pogomutt]

Re: Clive Bundy Shows True Colors

No he isn't. Not at all. The only one who confiscates money from me is the US government, and my town for property taxes. I wouldn't pay any less of either of them if Bundy paid his fee or not. $1 million when you're talking about a $2.9 trillion revenue collected by Uncle Sam is inconsequential to me.

Actually the bean counters made a little boo boo. Before the standoff, the bill was a million. After the standoff, the bill was corrected: $190,000