Clinton reportedly has ‘medical episode’ at 9/11 ceremony

[Cardinal]

Honest?? I don't need no stinkin' honest when I want to make a useless point.

We know.

 

[Mycroft]

We know.

Thank you for admitting your viewpoint...even if you have to do it dishonestly.

 

[Cardinal]

Thank you.

You're welcome.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

Why should this be a show stopper? People get sick, and they have weak moments, certainly at 68 or so. FDR was in a wheelchair, and quite sick the last bit of his term, Kennedy reportedly had several ailments, and was pumped up with drugs, Bill Clinton was ill on the campaign trail. If you want someone never likely to be ill, check out college track and field teams, or hang out in health food stores.

The organ most in question here is the brain, and on that score Trump should not even have qualified for the contest.

DeNial river flows long and deep in Democrat country.

Nothing to see here....move along.

 

[Peter King]

DeNial river flows long and deep in Democrat country.

Nothing to see here....move along.

Yes, and it also runs down just as deeply into Republican country, except this year it is that DeNial river is infected with birtherism, lies, racism, sexism and a putrid stench of fraud and theft.

But quite alright, it is the republican nominee so there is nothing on report on and if it is reported on reporters get physically assaulted, arrested, threatened with violence or simply banned from republican events where that putrid stench of theft/fraud/racism/birtherism/ lies/ sexism appears. Or they just punch elderly women to the floor, (and a lot more). And yes, democratic protesters can do awful things too, but they are responding to the most vile republican candidate in decades, and he just loves to divide people because that is what Trump does best. He divided the republican party and now he intends to divide the country, not a quality a president should have.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

Yes, and it also runs down just as deeply into Republican country, except this year it is that DeNial river is infected with birtherism, lies, racism, sexism and a putrid stench of fraud and theft.

But quite alright, it is the republican nominee so there is nothing on report on and if it is reported on reporters get physically assaulted, arrested, threatened with violence or simply banned from republican events where that putrid stench of theft/fraud/racism/birtherism/ lies/ sexism appears. Or they just punch elderly women to the floor, (and a lot more). And yes, democratic protesters can do awful things too, but they are responding to the most vile republican candidate in decades, and he just loves to divide people because that is what Trump does best. He divided the republican party and now he intends to divide the country, not a quality a president should have.

Yet another DEFLECTING answer. Pointing to someone else without admitting she collapsed.

^^^ THIS ^^^ is what I mean when I say the DeNial River runs deep with you guys. You REFUSE to admit what is a clear fact.

Yup, I agree with you. All of what you said is mostly true.

NOW, that being said, can you ALSO agree that what I also said is also true?

I bet you can't.

Can you say Hillary COLLAPSED on 9/11/2016?

My vision is 20/20, and I can also see what Trump is doing. One eye sees Trump and the other sees Hillary. I have no blinders.

Can you see and admit Hillary collapsed on 9/11/2016 like the rest of the world can?

or are you going to double down with yet another...." But look at Trump or Bush....." post. Not admitting to what factually happened at all.

No deflection. Can you say Hillary COLLAPSED on 9/11/2016?

yes or no....with no qualifying and deflections.

So far, all I get is deflections, and oh yeah, look at Trump or Bush....without admitting to this one clear and plainly visible fact.

yes or no. Did Hillary COLLAPSE on 9/11/2016?

How simple do I have to make this question?

...and how COMPLICATED do you have to keep making your answer?

 

[Ganesh]

DeNial river flows long and deep in Democrat country.

Nothing to see here....move along.

Denial has nothing to do with it. Sure, she was sick, collapsed, probably passed out. So what? Have you ever been sick in your life?

Rumor and innuendo is flying thick and fast here. People put in long hours, and are under a lot of stress often do get ill, and it is not the end of the world.

I'd rather have a sickly but smart person in the hot seat, than a robust buffoon calling the shots.

Are you sure it is not you doing the denying here?

 

[DA60]

Denial has nothing to do with it. Sure, she was sick, collapsed, probably passed out. So what? Have you ever been sick in your life?

Rumor and innuendo is flying thick and fast here. People put in long hours, and are under a lot of stress often do get ill, and it is not the end of the world.

I'd rather have a sickly but smart person in the hot seat, than a robust buffoon calling the shots.

Are you sure it is not you doing the denying here?

She is old, fat and almost passed out in public.

If that is not cause for concern...then your rose-colored glasses are on a tad too tight.

She - and Trump - should both get medical exams from the same doctor at a respected institution (like Walter Reed or the Mayo Clinic) and have the pertinent results released to the public.

In fact, it should be law that candidates for President should have to go through that process.

 

[Ganesh]

She is old, fat and almost passed out in public.

If that is not cause for concern...then your rose-colored glasses are on a tad too tight.

She - and Trump - should both get medical exams from the same doctor at a respected institution (like Walter Reed or the Mayo Clinic) and have the pertinent results released to the public.

In fact, it should be law that candidates for President should have to go through that process.

If being old and fat is a barrier to public office, then history to date has been one long travesty. As for passing out, that was also no rarity, either from natural or self induced causes.

An exam would be reasonable though, but my priority would be a date with a psychologist rather than a GP. That would have the GOP scouring their ranks for an anomaly.

 

[DA60]

If being old and fat is a barrier to public office, then history to date has been one long travesty. As for passing out, that was also no rarity, either from natural or self induced causes.

I said nothing about a 'barrier to public office'...I said cause for concern. So what you are talking about is beyond me.

 

[Excon]

And still no arguments, thought so. Defending a fraudulent bully is not that easy.

And still no arguments?
Wtf?
It was you who has failed to refute the arguments made and instead replied with irrational and emotive babble.
No one has to argue against such nonsense like you provided, or as the other person put it, an "endless stream of inane balderdash".


I did what was appropriate and dismissed it.

 

[jmotivator]

Watching video of the Clinton statement on the bombings should raise red flags. It wasn't late, she had only been back on the campaign trail for a few days, and already she appears worn out again.

 

[stevecanuck]

The "week to live" bit was obviously for effect but makes the point that through sampling bias anybody can be made to look sick, crazy, ugly, beautiful, whatever. If I wanted to create the narrative that you're ugly, all I'd have to do is get a picture of you either unshaven, having hat head, bed head, circles under your eyes from having slept too little, etc. If I compile all those images and reject the ones of you looking clean shaven and well rested, I've now created the narrative that you're ugly. That's sampling bias, and it's the clever and modern way of lying even though none of the individual photographs of you looking tired and unshaven are themselves false.

Right. Now, back to Hillary. Did she, or did she not pass out and tumble forward on 9/11?

 

[Cardinal]

Right. Now, back to Hillary. Did she, or did she not pass out and tumble forward on 9/11?

In the narrative of someone being ugly, is the photo of that person unshaven and tired false?

 

[stevecanuck]

In the narrative of someone being ugly, is the photo of that person unshaven and tired false?

Wow! You are a hoot.

 

[Cardinal]

Wow! You are a hoot.

You're new here, so I'll tell you that the idea is to respond to the argument, not to focus on the poster making the argument. That's how debate works.

 

[stevecanuck]

You're new here, so I'll tell you that the idea is to respond to the argument, not to focus on the poster making the argument. That's how debate works.

I tried that. You deflected. Let's review the bidding (paraphrasing):

You: Hillary Clinton lost her balance.
Me: No, the video clearly showed her wobble, lurch, then fall forward.
You: Being followed 24/7 will inevitably lead to unfavorable footage.
Me: True, but in this case the accusation of her passing out is CLEARLY born out by the video.
You: Deflections, deflections, deflections.

So, here it is again. Did Hillary Clinton lose her balance or pass out?

 

[Cardinal]

I tried that. You deflected. Let's review the bidding (paraphrasing):

You: Hillary Clinton lost her balance.
Me: No, the video clearly showed her wobble, lurch, then fall forward.
You: Being followed 24/7 will inevitably lead to unfavorable footage.
Me: True, but in this case the accusation of her passing out is CLEARLY born out by the video.
You: Deflections, deflections, deflections.

So, here it is again. Did Hillary Clinton lose her balance or pass out?

I don't care if she spontaneously combusted, try to respond to the actual argument I'm making.

 

[stevecanuck]

I don't care if she spontaneously combusted, try to respond to the actual argument I'm making.

And that completes the circle. This is where I came in by doing just that. If you're going to continue to pretend otherwise, I'll just let you go around this circle again by yourself.

 

[Cardinal]

And that completes the circle. This is where I came in by doing just that. If you're going to continue to pretend otherwise, I'll just let you go around this circle again by yourself.

You didn't respond in any coherent way except to lose your pants over "losing balance" versus "passing out," as if that distinction had even the slightest tangential bearing on my argument.

 

[Quazimodo]

You're new here, so I'll tell you that the idea is to respond to the argument, not to focus on the poster making the argument. That's how debate works.

Come on, Bro, let the truth come out. You're not debating anymore, you're filibustering.

 

[Cardinal]

Come on, Bro, let the truth come out. You're not debating anymore, you're filibustering.

Post 294. You can either debate it or you can take the coward's way out and throw ad homs at me instead. Your choice.

 

[Quazimodo]

Post 294. You can either debate it or you can take the coward's way out and throw ad homs at me instead. Your choice.

This "debate" of yours is starting to sound like one hand clapping. Thanks for the choice. I'll take the coward's way out. You might give some consideration to selecting that option yourself.

 

[Cardinal]

I'll take the coward's way out.

Shocker!

 

[Quazimodo]

Shocker!

One. Hand. Clapping.