Clinton faces new questions over emails - CNN

[Bootlace]

BANKRUPT THIS!



Colin Powel had probably even more during wartime.

I admire General Powel, but I don't understand - in a context where it is well-known that the Federal government IS-systems (with the exception of the NSA!) are pathetic - why are we paying particular attention to Hillary Clinton?

Has she presented herself as Snow White, or is it because she is a woman that she must prove herself "beyond reproach". Whilst a consummate businessman goes from bankruptcy-to-bankruptcy with alacrity and a broad smile.

And, you will explain, please, why this has anything whatsoever to do with her capacity to be a PotUS. Which is, after all, the reason this "issue" has arisen.

Is it really any worse than a candidate who has had a sizable number of corporate failures ... which would indicate, to me at the very least, that the person has a problem with "good business sense".

ABOUT BANKRUPTCY

NB: Donald Trump Proves What's Wrong With Bankruptcy Laws in America. Excerpt:

MY POINT

If we cannot see the BigMoney manipulation of laws to protect their own jobs, whilst we must submit to the Law of Supply & Demand, then ... we, the sheeple, are bunch of damn fools!

And we are about to elect a man who has proven to be a skillful master of bankruptcy laws as PotUS ... !
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First, it ills me trump is doing so well. As for why we need to look at hillary is it is possible that she broke laws Where part of the punishment is a lifetime ban from holding public office.

 

[Paperview]

The Economist, Excerpt:



And, there was a war going on when Powell was doing it. Nonetheless, Clinton is different, isn't she. She's now a presidential candidate and all the muck that one can rake-up on her is an integral "part of the game".

Now lemme see, who's more at fault? Clinton and her non-securitized computer or Trump and his Business Failures:
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Dunno, after all business failures make for great "tax write-offs" ... !
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You make a good point about Powell's non-government email's -- (I still can't get over it was a grampsy AOL account) which he used in his day-to-day dealings of official business, and used it exclusively (and did not retain any of his emails),

But during his time as SOS there was some heavy duty wars going on. He likely had a ****ton of classified emails he was passing back and forth.

 

[Paperview]

First, it ills me trump is doing so well. As for why we need to look at hillary is it is possible that she broke laws Where part of the punishment is a lifetime ban from holding public office.

Are you referring to this law?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/...de_temp_noupdates=0#qt-us_code_temp_noupdates

 

[legalimmigrant]

I just sent this to the Trump website:

Crooked Hillary is good.

Hillary Bribery Clinton is better.

 

[Bootlace]

Are you referring to this law?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/...de_temp_noupdates=0#qt-us_code_temp_noupdates

Yes it is

 

[Lafayette]

This is exactly when leadership in the role of POTUS needs to take place. Unfortunately Obama has no idea what that really means, and was/is woefully ill-equipped in that regard.

Obama was offered on a silver-platter upon assuming office in 2009 the consequences of the Great Recession, the origins of which were in the previous administration.

Upon entering office, Obama passed the ARRA-bill that was $831M of stimulus spending in 2009. ARRA-spending effectively spiked an exploding unemployment rate at 10%. (See here.)

For this "achievement", the American people in 2012 voted control of the HofR to the Replicants.

As regards our tripartite system of governance (Executive, Legislative and Judicial), "leadership" by the PotUS is not enough. The leadership of which you are thinking seems to pertain to European monarchs of the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries whose rule was absolute (since they were ordained by God).

Nowadays, we mere mortals must do with an electoral system where barely 40% of the electorate vote. It was a plurality of that 40% that handed the HofR to the Replicant Party in 2010, which instituted a benighted regime of "Austerity Budgeting". The true purpose of which (at the time, just two years before the 2012 PotUS election) was to assure that Obama would be defeated.

Which didn't happen. What did happen, however, because of their chicanery, was not only Obama's reelection but an additional four more years when the American economy produced no jobs. See that in the Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment-to-population Ratio:

FOUR MORE YEARS of no improvement of job-prospects ... because the Replicants stooped to foul-play to unseat a PotUS and maintained that Austerity Budgeting had no room for "stimulus spending" .

That, dear friend, is the kind of power-politics of which this nation of ours has no need whatsoever ... !

 

[mak2]

I just gotta ask, how is having a private server a crime?

Not to mention, the very act of even having a private server, is, in and of itself, a crime.

 

[Winchester]

Death by a thousand cuts.

Well I hope she either gets bandaged up or one of them hits an artery before the convention. It would be nice to have it resolved before then.

 

[Lafayette]

POWER POLITICS

This is exactly when leadership in the role of POTUS needs to take place. Unfortunately Obama has no idea what that really means, and was/is woefully ill-equipped in that regard.

Obama was offered on a silver-platter upon assuming office in 2009 the consequences of the Great Recession, the origins of which were in the previous administration.

Upon entering office, Obama passed the ARRA-bill that was $831M of stimulus spending in 2009. ARRA-spending effectively spiked an exploding unemployment rate at 10%. (See here.)

For this "achievement", the 37.5% of the American electorate in the 2010-midterms voted control of the HofR to the Replicants.

As regards our tripartite system of governance (Executive, Legislative and Judicial), "leadership" by the PotUS is not enough. The leadership of which you are thinking seems to pertain to European monarchs of the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries whose rule was absolute (since they were ordained by God). All budget-spending legislation issues from the HofR and along with the Senate's vote is subject to the approval by the PotUS.

Nowadays, we mere mortals must do with an electoral system where barely 40% of the electorate vote. It was a plurality of that 40% that handed the HofR to the Replicant Party in 2010, which instituted a benighted regime of "Austerity Budgeting". The true purpose of which (at the time, just two years before the 2012 PotUS election) was to assure that Obama would be defeated.

Which didn't happen. What did happen, however, because of their chicanery, was not only Obama's reelection but an additional four more years (2010 to 2014) when the American economy produced no new jobs. See that in the Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment-to-population Ratio:

MY POINT?

FOUR MORE YEARS of no improvement of job-prospects ... because the Replicants stooped to foul-play to unseat a PotUS and maintained that Austerity Budgeting had no room for "stimulus spending" .

That, dear friend, is the kind of power-politics of which this nation of ours has no need whatsoever!

But, since we, the sheeple, elected the Replicants in control of the HofR, it's the kind we got ...
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[countryboy]

I just gotta ask, how is having a private server a crime?

For you or I, it's not. For the head of State, where mandated security protocols are in place, it is. I honestly don't see how anyone can defend this **** with a straight face.

 

[Paperview]

Yes it is

I thought so.

This was encountered on another thread, -- it seems to be passing around in connie circles -- and as I said there

1st. She'd have to be charged with the crime first.
--and would likely not be found in a court of law found guilty by a jury.

Why?

Let's look at it:

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing,
filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

That part in red. Let the noggin roll around for a bit on that one.


2. There's this part too:

What a prosecutor would have to show to meet the "willfully and unlawfully" element of this law.

It's a strike out on that one.

 

[Chomsky]

I know that we don't agree on the cost benefit analysis of the public hand producing private goods, but everyone can err sometimes.

Why do I get the feeling I've just gotten *punked*? :mrgreen:

 

[Jack Hays]

This whole thing does seem to be building into a crescendo as we head into the convention and general!

I personally would be content if she got indicted, causing the nomination to default to Bernie.

Bernie & Trump would give the citizenry an interesting referendum as to whether the country tacks more capitalistic or more socialist; It seems many if not most citizens are rebelling against "more establishment".

We live in interesting times!

If HRC is knocked out then Joe Biden will be welcomed into the race faster than you can say "emergency candidate."

 

[Paperview]

If HRC is knocked out then Joe Biden will be welcomed into the race faster than you can say "emergency candidate."

Nothing would tickle me more than to see Biden run.

I've been wanting to vote for him since 2008.

 

[legalimmigrant]

Nothing would tickle me more than to see Biden run.

I've been wanting to vote for him since 2008.

Chris Matthews syndrome?

 

[Chomsky]

If HRC is knocked out then Joe Biden will be welcomed into the race faster than you can say "emergency candidate."

Very possible, but can he get on the ballot in all 50? I have no idea.

But I felt from the beginning that Biden-Warren was the Dem's strongest ticket.

I personally can't stand Hillary ...

 

[Jack Hays]

Very possible, but can he get on the ballot in all 50? I have no idea.

But I felt from the beginning that Biden-Warren was the Dem's strongest ticket.

I personally can't stand Hillary ...

I've decided I'll vote for Gary Johnson, but I could live with a President Biden.

 

[Chomsky]

I've decided I'll vote for Gary Johnson, but I could live with a President Biden.

You know, I think I could live with Joe Biden, too. He'd enter the contest with far higher 'like' and 'acceptable' ratings than HRC or Trump, that's for sure! I'm sure Joe Biden is now kicking himself for not having run!

As to Johnson, despite the 'libertarian' in my 'libertarian-left' lean by my avatar, I'm pretty limited in my libertarian leanings with them being primarily social libertarian causes.

I just can't cross the line to full-on libertarian at all, even though I had a brief brush with it earlier in my life.

 

[Jack Hays]

You know, I think I could live with Joe Biden, too. He'd enter the contest with far higher 'like' and 'acceptable' ratings than HRC or Trump, that's for sure! I'm sure Joe Biden is now kicking himself for not having run!

As to Johnson, despite the 'libertarian' in my 'libertarian-left' lean by my avatar, I'm pretty limited in my libertarian leanings with them being primarily social libertarian causes.

I just can't cross the line to full-on libertarian at all, even though I had a brief brush with it earlier in my life.

I understand. The most off-putting aspect of libertarianism is the stream of lectures about what "real" libertarians believe. That's why I fly the "Independent" flag.

 

[Chomsky]

I understand. The most off-putting aspect of libertarianism is the stream of lectures about what "real" libertarians believe. That's why I fly the "Independent" flag.

I've had a poster here (Thrilla) once respond to me, by stating the only thing necessary to be a Libertarian is to agree in general terms with the Non-Aggression Principle.

Which sounds about right.

 

[Jack Hays]

I've had a poster here (Thrilla) once respond to me, by stating the only thing necessary to be a Libertarian is to agree in general terms with the Non-Aggression Principle.

Which sounds about right.

I don't like to limit my freedom of action.:mrgreen:

 

[Chomsky]

I don't like to limit my freedom of action.:mrgreen:

:lamo :thumbs:

 

[Lafayette]

As for why we need to look at hillary is it is possible that she broke laws Where part of the punishment is a lifetime ban from holding public office.

That decisions is up to a judge and jury to determine.

It is entirely possible there was no real breach of confidentiality. When is the last time you saw an email from Hillary (as Sec. of State) divulged to the public? So, as in murder, "where is the body?"

That she should be reprimanded, OK. But destitution from candidacy of PotUS?

That's at least a light-year too far.

Your turn ...
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[mak2]

As much as I cant stand Hillary, all I know is the last 8 years I have heard of scandal after scandal after scandal, and yet seen no evidence of anything that would hold up in a court of law. I bet I have seen a dozen "smoking gun" articles about his topic alone, never mind Benghazi, the IRS and dozens of other outrages, Remember Obama's lapel flag? I hope there really is some evidence that will hold up in court and make it so I never/ or at least rarely have to look at her on TV, but I still don't see it. Either the RWers are so amazingly incompetent they cannot do anything with the evidence that is everywhere out there, or they live in a fantasy land.

That decisions is up to a judge and jury to determine.

It is entirely possible there was no real breach of confidentiality. When is the last time you saw an email from Hillary (as Sec. of State) divulged to the public? So, as in murder, "where is the body?"

That she should be reprimanded, OK. But destitution from candidacy of PotUS?

That's at least a light-year too far.

Your turn ...
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[Paperview]

That decisions is up to a judge and jury to determine.

It is entirely possible there was no real breach of confidentiality. When is the last time you saw an email from Hillary (as Sec. of State) divulged to the public? So, as in murder, "where is the body?"

That she should be reprimanded, OK. But destitution from candidacy of PotUS?

That's at least a light-year too far.

Your turn ...
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As you say, this little thing called a charge and trial would have to happen.

(not bloody likely) Even still -- there's also the thing called the US Constitution & No federal statute, e.g. Section 2071, can add qualifications to the presidency.