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'Climate change crisis' narrative is taking a beating

Glitch said:
But you can only use 20% of the battery's life in a vehicle before it has to be replaced. Which makes the internal combustion engine more energy efficient, and that doesn't cut anything in half. It actually makes electric vehicles more wasteful, energy-wise. You were better off using hydrocarbons or hydrogen instead of electricity. While there is a 65% loss of energy in producing those produces, it still beats only using 20% of the power generated by a battery.
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What are you babbling about? EV's have 300 mile ranges and fast charging. The batteries last for years and can be recycled to make new ones. There is no excuse to use energy wasting I/C engines.
 
vegas giants said:
Absolutely nothing

Which is why you havent presented it. Lol
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Snip the offenders tubes so they cannot repeat the action. That's the best I can think of.

We have yoo many kids growing up in poor families already.
 
ataraxia said:
The whole point of capitalism is to beat the competition. Monopolies are just what is left when you have succeeded in accomplishing that goal.
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No they aren't. You can't have a monopoly if anybody can start up an alternative. You have to have government forbidding competition in order to make a monopoly.
 
vegas giants said:
Absolutely nothing

Which is why you havent presented it. Lol
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In post 262, I said: "Maybe if a person had a child while not having the financial means to take care of the child, should be requred to have their tubes tied in order to receive governmet aide. This way, they aren't a repeat offender. The so-called safety net was designed for changes in financial situations, and as a temporary measure. Not as a lifestyle."

Now I meant conceived, as maybe someone did have the means but had some life changing event take place.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Snip the offenders tubes so they cannot repeat the action. That's the best I can think of.

We have yoo many kids growing up in poor families already.
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Forced sterilization.....and only on women!!!!!

This is priceless. Lol


I think the gop should run on this plan. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Forced sterilization.....and only on women!!!!!

This is priceless. Lol


I think the gop should run on this plan. Lol
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The father as well. We need to stop irresponsible breeders as much as possible.

There may come a day that this happens out of societal necessity.
 
Lord of Planar said:
In post 262, I said: "Maybe if a person had a child while not having the financial means to take care of the child, should be requred to have their tubes tied in order to receive governmet aide. This way, they aren't a repeat offender. The so-called safety net was designed for changes in financial situations, and as a temporary measure. Not as a lifestyle."

Now I meant conceived, as maybe someone did have the means but had some life changing event take place.
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I absolutely think the gop should make this their platform


You would never win another election
 
vegas giants said:
I absolutely think the gop should make this their platform


You would never win another election
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I would hope the GOP and democrats never win another election. The political corruption needs to stop.
 
mrjurrs said:
Oranges and skyscrapers. While Walmart doesn't pay their workers a living wage, resulting in many full time Walmart workers qualifying for safety net programs (and America subsidizing the profits they make) I'm not aware of tax benefits solely directed at giant retail outfits.
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The point is a business expense is a business expensive and all are eligible to be written off against gross profits.
 
iguanaman said:
What are you babbling about? EV's have 300 mile ranges and fast charging. The batteries last for years and can be recycled to make new ones. There is no excuse to use energy wasting I/C engines.
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I'm referring to the battery-life. When EV batteries reach 80% they are replaced. Depending on how often they are used that could take anywhere from 5 to 7 years. The battery is still capable of holding 80% of its original charge, but that is insufficient for EVs. So they are either recycled or used for other less demanding operations. Every time a lithium-ion battery is recharged it has a little less charge than it had previously. Eventually the battery will become incapable of holding a charge, but that could take decades of constantly depleting and recharging the battery. Once the battery is no longer capable of holding more than 80% of its original charge in EVs, it is replaced.

Which means you are not using 80% of the battery-life in an EV, and that makes internal combustion engines more energy efficient.
 
Glitch said:
I'm referring to the battery-life. When EV batteries reach 80% they are replaced. Depending on how often they are used that could take anywhere from 5 to 7 years. The battery is still capable of holding 80% of its original charge, but that is insufficient for EVs. So they are either recycled or used for other less demanding operations. Every time a lithium-ion battery is recharged it has a little less charge than it had previously. Eventually the battery will become incapable of holding a charge, but that could take decades of constantly depleting and recharging the battery. Once the battery is no longer capable of holding more than 80% of its original charge in EVs, it is replaced.

Which means you are not using 80% of the battery-life in an EV, and that makes internal combustion engines more energy efficient.
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I don't know where you got such bad information but it is all a crock of shit... Tesla's can get 500,000 miles from a set of batteries.

GreenCars' Guide to Electric Car Batteries​

The biggest take away we want you to get from this article is that EV battery degradation is really nothing to worry about. If we look at the Tesla S model battery, researchers have found that traveling 500,000 miles on the original battery should not be a problem. Just because the battery degrades does not mean it is not drivable; it simply loses some of its range and charging efficiency.

In blog posts, Tesla model S owners have noted that approximately 95% of the battery retains its battery function during the first 50,000 miles. A 5% battery degradation could equal 20 miles of range. Oddly enough, the battery only degraded another 5% during the next 100,000 miles. So, 150,000 miles resulted in a total average of 10% total battery degradation. Typically, you wouldn’t need to consider replacing your battery until degradation reaches 50-65%.

https://www.greencars.com/guides/definitive-guide-to-electric-car-batteries-range
 
CLAX1911 said:
They can't in a free market barriers have to be created by government

Why is false?
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Economies of scale and huge amounts of resources/marketing capital have nothing to do with government.
 
iguanaman said:
I/C engines are the most energy wasteful form of transportation known to man. 75% of their energy used goes to heat. That is why EV's reduce carbon per mile even when the electricity used comes from Fossil fuels. We need to ditch all I/C engines as soon as possible. Fast charging and 300+ mile ranges have made energy density a moot point. EV's are ready for prime time now and hydrogen powered fuel cell electric trucks are ready for long haul trucking too. The I/C engine is a dinosaur that needs to go extinct.

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I am aware of heat engine losses, all heat engines for that matter! Please consider that even with a 20% efficiency IC engine, gasoline still has 5 times more energy per pound than the best battery! In terms of carrying around your energy gasoline and IC is still superior, and gets even better with hybrid technology!
 
ataraxia said:
Economies of scale and huge amounts of resources/marketing capital have nothing to do with government.
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I wasn't talking of economies of scale I was talking about monopolies.

A company that doesn't have any government power can't use government to forbid competition.

I don't know why you keep distracting with things that have nothing to do with the topic you've done that twice now.
 
iguanaman said:
I don't know where you got such bad information but it is all a crock of shit... Tesla's can get 500,000 miles from a set of batteries.

GreenCars' Guide to Electric Car Batteries​

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Anything posted after this statement is just building on a lie. Electric cars are in ecological disaster just waiting to happen. They are e-waste.

The batteries in Tesla's do not last that long Elon musk is lying to get you to buy his car that's what all car companies do.

The only way you get 500,000 miles out of an electric car battery is if you drive 50,000 miles a year.

Currently if you have an older car it goes to a junkyard and parts are taken from it to make other cars of that model run when you have an electric car if the battery fails it is garbage. They built them that way on purpose so you will buy a new ones it is a scam it's exactly what Apple does. There will be no junk yards because there will be no older models they are all in a landfill leaking toxic contaminants into the water table.

This environmentalist cult doesn't think about anything else but carbon dioxide and it's because the devil in the religion is petrochemical.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Anything posted after this statement is just building on a lie. Electric cars are in ecological disaster just waiting to happen. They are e-waste.

The batteries in Tesla's do not last that long Elon musk is lying to get you to buy his car that's what all car companies do.

The only way you get 500,000 miles out of an electric car battery is if you drive 50,000 miles a year.

Currently if you have an older car it goes to a junkyard and parts are taken from it to make other cars of that model run when you have an electric car if the battery fails it is garbage. They built them that way on purpose so you will buy a new ones it is a scam it's exactly what Apple does. There will be no junk yards because there will be no older models they are all in a landfill leaking toxic contaminants into the water table.

This environmentalist cult doesn't think about anything else but carbon dioxide and it's because the devil in the religion is petrochemical.
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None of this is true
 
CLAX1911 said:
I wasn't talking of economies of scale I was talking about monopolies.

A company that doesn't have any government power can't use government to forbid competition.

I don't know why you keep distracting with things that have nothing to do with the topic you've done that twice now.
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Because if a company is big enough they will use economies of scale and massive marketing resources to suppress any new start ups. The barriers to entry become too high.

If you can’t start up the next Amazon or Tesla, do you think it’s because government is keeping you down?
 
ataraxia said:
Because if a company is big enough they will use economies of scale and massive marketing resources to suppress any new start ups.
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There's one of two things that that is it is a corporatist government that has jurisdiction does not deserve and would not have in a capitalism or it is a trust.
ataraxia said:
The barriers to entry become too high.
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Under a corporatist regime yes that's why I support capitalism because it doesn't allow that.
ataraxia said:
If you can’t start up the next Amazon or Tesla, do you think it’s because government is keeping you down?
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If anything is that's what it is. If I can provide a better service or an alternative service that people want to Amazon or Tesla I would have customers.

You know Amazon didn't exist 30 years ago right? The next Amazon or the replacement for it or something better than it could be in the works right now.

If you don't think that happens you must deny the existence of Amazon. They wouldn't have been able to compete with Walmart.
 
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