Classified documents from Biden's time as VP discovered in private office, source says

[soap box]

Huh?

Fourteen thousand and first time. No one would send their lawyers to do an archivist's job.

An archivist would find the docs and be bound by the same law that the lawyers followed- to report it immediately to authorities. An archivist would have set the same series of events in motion.

How does that help your 'lack of transparency' claim?

 

[Linuxcooldude]

And you've been told time and tiem and time and time and again, that there is no process for the President to declassify documents.

Before, I kept on asking the procedure specifically a President must follow to declassify. So far, no one supplied one.

 

[soap box]

His entire defense (excuse?) is that he, who takes classified material very, very seriously,

If you call that a defense , I saw him say that,

never stored classified documents improperly and never saw any stashed in inappropriate places, thus anything found, even in his DC office, home(s) and garage must have been placed there by (unknown?) others.

When did Biden say any of that?

 

[Ethel2]

Before, I kept on asking the procedure specifically a President must follow to declassify. So far, no one supplied one.

It’s been posted here many times. Try to pay attention.

 

[soap box]

Before, I kept on asking the procedure specifically a President must follow to declassify. So far, no one supplied one.

1. Maybe because that requires an explanation long enough to write a book.

2. It's OT because it's not worth a hill of beans because Biden never claimed to have declassfied anything and there's different rules and procedures for different agencies.

3. Nobody is stopping you.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

The POTUS IS the Executive Branch, therefore he has the singular authority to declassify. No statute changes that, period.

Not only that, he delegates the power to classification/declassify documents by the President Executive Order 13526.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

It’s been posted here many times. Try to pay attention.

I asked for a procedure that SPICIFICALLY mentions the President that he must follow.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

I asked for a procedure that SPICIFICALLY mentions the President that he must follow.

This is all a red herring. Trump didn't declassify them. The easiest way to tell is the fact that those documents are still classified.

Classification isn't some mystical status - it's a real-world, functional status as information control. When some piece of information is declassified, that functional status changes - and more importantly, if that status doesn't change, the information isn't declassified.

 

[soap box]

I asked for a procedure that SPICIFICALLY mentions the President that he must follow.

Right, but if the current information doesn't allow us to know where they originated or what classification is involved, we can only guess about whether or not any particular documents were declassfied correctly .

Biden never claimed to have declassfied anything.

How would the written procedure help us understand what happened?

 

[Galactic Spin]

how can you say he cooperated? It is clear he has been hiding classified docs for at least six years.

False. It seems pretty obviously much more clear that he didn't know they were there.

I say he is cooperating, because he is handing over the docs as soon as it is discovered he has them.

Now compare that to refusing to do so for 16 months and then lying about it even after a search warrant.

Now you see the difference between cooperating and not cooperating. Always glad to clarify.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Point being we don't know. Yet. Fact remains no POTUS can declassify nuclear secrets.

Not Even the President Can Declassify Nuclear Secrets

Fan letters and snapshots are one matter, and launch codes are another—and here the details of classification might decide just how much trouble Trump is in.

www.theatlantic.com

The Department of Energy, classifys nuclear information. The Department of Energy is under the Executive branch that gets its classification powers by Executive Order 13526, the President.

It would make no sense , what so ever, the President couldn't declassify nuclear secrets that he deligates down to the Department of Energy.

 

[Galactic Spin]

so hiding classified information in multiple locations for 2-10 years isn't a big deal for you?

Non sequitur. Strawman. Red herring. Weak sauce.

Also you might want to buy a dictionary and look up "hiding".

 

[Galactic Spin]

maybe same reason Biden had?

Which is?

What are you scared of? Trump can't hear you. Step up.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

The Department of Energy, classifys nuclear information. The Department of Energy is under the Executive branch that gets its classification powers by Executive Order 13526, the President.

That's not accurate. Nuclear information is "classified" by statute, not by EO.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

That's not accurate. Nuclear information is "classified" by statute, not by EO.

Actually, your right, that changed by President Truman. I forgot.

 

[tshade]

While that’s true, it doesn’t mean anything. Joe just ****ed the case against Florida Man, big time. It’s not fair, but case is now a what about,.. even though it’s not.
Gaffman…

.then shame on all Americans that fall for that.......

 

[366h34d]

False. It seems pretty obviously much more clear that he didn't know they were there.

I say he is cooperating, because he is handing over the docs as soon as it is discovered he has them.

Now compare that to refusing to do so for 16 months and then lying about it even after a search warrant.

Now you see the difference between cooperating and not cooperating. Always glad to clarify.

So, you are telling us that Biden who is the ex-VP and current POTUS has dementia

 

[366h34d]

He hasn't hidden any classified docs. What are you talking about?

are you telling us that Biden has dementia

 

[Ethel2]

I asked for a procedure that SPICIFICALLY mentions the President that he must follow.

As I wrote it’s been posted here several times.

 

[Galactic Spin]

So, you are telling us that Biden who is the ex-VP and current POTUS has dementia

No, that's your non sequitur. If you would like to argue he has dementia because he didn't know what was in those boxes, be my guest. Make your own points.

And if you want to respond to my actual points -- instead of inventing non sequiturs -- step up to the plate.

 

[366h34d]

No, that's your non sequitur. If you would like to argue he has dementia because he didn't know what was in those boxes, be my guest. Make your own points.

And if you want to respond to my actual points -- instead of inventing non sequiturs -- step up to the plate.

I am not saying that he has dementia. You are saying he has dementia because he does not remember he has placed classified docs in multi-insecurity locations

 

[Anthony60]

If Biden is issued a subpoena and says no, then it would be comparable to trump. That hasn't happened.

For the record, this none of this would even have been newsworthy, until Biden and the Democrats decided to try and criminalize the Presidential records act. Ironic, how Biden created the very thing that he is now in trouble for.

Seems to get worse every day for Biden. It's always the cover up that gets them.

 

[Galactic Spin]

You are saying he has dementia because he does not remember he has placed classified docs in multi-insecurity locations

False. That's your non sequitur. This dimestore troll con isn't going to work for you, sorry.

You're saying that means he has dementia. How very special of you.

 

[Anthony60]

You can't conduct raids in the United States without showing the court that a crime was likely committed AND that evidence of that crime is very likely to be found at the site of the search. In the Biden case, they can show neither. In the Trump case, they showed both.

Do you not understand why a search warrant was served on Trump?

Yes, because the election was coming up and they needed headlines, that's why they got that general warrant. Now, it's blown up in their collective faces. Biden is looking pretty bad.

 

[Galactic Spin]

Yes, because the election was coming up and they needed headlines, that's why they got that general warrant.

So the AG, the other prosecutors, the judge...

You are accusing them all, right now, of corruptly (which is to say, criminally) creating a false warrant.

So do I have that right? They are all corrupt liars. And you make these accusations of quite a few people you know nothing about to shield one Donald J Trump.

But nah... it's not a cult...