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Classified documents from Biden's time as VP discovered in private office, source says

Athanasius68 said:
Biden did indeed do the same thing.
It's not as serious, but still the same thing.
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*the same thing Trump was in no trouble for and for which he was given 16 months to cooperate without penalty.

I think maybe you just had a breakthrough!
 
iguanaman said:
Probably because Hillary did not lie to them about the emails and as SOS she had the clearance to view those emails. It did not hurt that her server was never proven to be hacked either.
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Mrs. Clinton had a home brew email system in which she transmitted and stored government documents.
She also destroyed documents.

The decision about prosecuting Trump is not about he and Biden. It's about the precedent in NOT prosecuting Clinton.
 
Anthony60 said:
You really are embarrassing yourself.
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Don't you sissy out, too!

Explain to us why Trump didn't make the claim in court.

This is guaranteed to be hilarious.

Then I will give you the correct answer.
 
Galactic Spin said:
*the same thing Trump was in no trouble for and for which he was given 16 months to cooperate without penalty.

I think maybe you just had a breakthrough!
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Like I said, the same thing.
With Trump it was more serious.
 
Galactic Spin said:
Don't you sissy out, too!

Explain to us why Trump didn't make the claim in court.

This is guaranteed to be hilarious.

Then I will give you the correct answer.
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Does the below look familiar or mean anything to you? And sorry, I'm not part of Trump's legal team. You guys seem to this we are all in constant communication!

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
 
ColdHardTruth said:
There is no evidence of this.

This is reich-wing bullshit.


More reich-wing bullshit.



Trump was known to do business with China. If he sold documents, it was probably to Saudi Arabia.
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The Biden family was hip deep in business with China. Heck, that UPENN received a lot of money from Chinese sources after Biden set up shop there.
 
Anthony60 said:
Does the below look familiar or mean anything to you? And sorry, I'm not part of Trump's legal team. You guys seem to this we are all in constant communication!

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
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Your squirming won't save you or the orange slob.

So why didn't Trump claim in court that he declassified any of it, despite being invited to do so by the special master?

Let's hear your stupid answer you are about to make up on the spot.

Or dodge and retreat. Which is what you will do.
 
Galactic Spin said:
Yes, additional federal crimes tend to make a matter more serious.
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I am taking from a national security angle.
The DOJ let Clinton skate a few years ago.
That's the problem they are wrestling with now. And this Biden stuff makes it harder.
 
Athanasius68 said:
The Biden family was hip deep in business with China. Heck, that UPENN received a lot of money from Chinese sources after Biden set up shop there.
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This seems like more reich-wing bullshit to me.

The GQP loves to accuse the Bidens of being involved in China but conveniently forget that Trump was in bed with China.

The right does not get to criticize Biden until they hold Trump accountable for his criminal behavior.
 
Athanasius68 said:
I am taking from a national security angle.
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Then my point still stands. I would say obstructionof justice re: investigations into the docs and concealment of the docs are both matters of national security.

What else ya got?
 
ColdHardTruth said:
This seems like more reich-wing bullshit to me.

The GQP loves to accuse the Bidens of being involved in China but conveniently forget that Trump was in bed with China.

The right does not get to criticize Biden until they hold Trump accountable for his criminal behavior.
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Galactic Spin said:
Then my point still stands. I would say obstructionof justice re: investigations into the docs and concealment of the docs are both matters of national security.

What else ya got?
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Mrs. Clinton destroyed documents subject to an investigations.
She testified to this.
No charges.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Mrs. Clinton had a home brew email system in which she transmitted and stored government documents.
She also destroyed documents.

The decision about prosecuting Trump is not about he and Biden. It's about the precedent in NOT prosecuting Clinton.
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She was not charged with a crime for deleting personal emails and no criminal intent was found for have emails about drone strikes on her server. Trump misled and lied about having secret documents and refused to give them back. There is no precedent allowing that behavior.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Mrs. Clinton destroyed documents subject to an investigations.
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Hmm, no, you don't the truth of that at all. Once again you seem to know nothing factual about a topic you are commenting on.

You are fed so much bullshit in the right wing bubble, you don't even know or remember what is true and what isn't.


 
choiceone said:
This is a peculiar post. Biden's laywers were part of his cleanup team. They were looking at all sorts of things, not specifically looking for classified docs. That's what would be expected of someone who had had a long career full of many types of files, such as one in which you had held important government positions. Biden certainly wouldn't have done all his cleanup himself.

Biden had researched and written a book, so he had had reason to get authority to use the docs for that purpose and could easily have returned some docs and forgotten about the others because they weren't really important. That isn't BS.

Frankly, if Trump had done something as useful as book-writing with the docs he took, and had returned the docs before NARA asked for them, we wouldn't have learned anything about them. Because Trump would have been normal. It is because Trump is a combative narcissistic mammon-worshipping liar that he wasn't.
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Trying to assert that Biden‘s mishandling of classified data is OK because Trump was ‘ickier’ is a ridiculous excuse.
 
iguanaman said:
She was not charged with a crime for deleting personal emails and no criminal intent was found for have emails about drone strikes on her server. Trump misled and lied about having secret documents and refused to give them back. There is no precedent allowing that behavior.
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We have no evidence they were personal emails.
Regardless they were subject to investigation.
No charges.

BTW The standard is gross negligence.
 
Anthony60 said:
It makes them feel better, in their own, very flawed, way.
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I think it's, in part, from the media they consume - sanctimonious, condescending, contemptuous, pretentious ...
 
eohrnberger said:
This Special Council investigation might very well be used to squash if not all, than most of inquiries or demands for production of documentation, under 'Can't discuss about an ongoing investigation'. It would be sacrificing a pawn to save your king (Joe) and your bishops (Hunter and Frank) - who have a history of profiting from Joe's position in government), if I may use a chess analogy.

I can easily see this playing out this way. If you can't, that's fine.
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It might be that you'll 'see' it playing out that way even if it doesn't, really. After all we can speculate all we want about unstated motives and reasons once the dust has settled.
 
Athanasius68 said:
We have no evidence they were personal emails.
Regardless they were subject to investigation.
No charges.

BTW The standard is gross negligence.
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Oops, wrong again. You should feel embarrassed of yourself for spreading debunked lies that are 6 years old.
 
Anthony60 said:
Are you talking about declassifying? Or reclassifying? It may not matter. I don't know what rules you are speaking of.
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Though there aren’t specific protocols that the president must follow to declassify a document, federal courts have ruled that they will “refuse to recognize what they consider to be an inference of declassification,” McClanahan said.
The U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in a 2020 decision about whether statements made by then-President Trump declassified the existence of a CIA program that “declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures.”
If a document is declassified, that doesn’t automatically mean it can be shared widely, either. For example, nuclear information – which is generally classified – is also protected by the federal Atomic Energy Act of 1954, McClanahan explained.

https://www.verifythis.com/article/...heck/536-e1961390-e7c6-438a-b9b5-671dc9c6f7ec
 
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