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Classified documents from Biden's time as VP discovered in private office, source says

Napoleon said:
Biden didn’t disclose them - his attorneys did. So they ratted him out as the professional ethics require. Why were Biden’s attorneys rifling through a closet at the University of Pennsylvania in the first place?
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"Professional ethics" don't require Biden's lawyers to "rat him out" - in fact, they completely prevent them from doing so.

Biden's lawyers disclosed the documents to NARA because Biden told them to.

Also - the documents were in D.C., not at the University of Pennslyvania.
 
Napoleon said:
Biden didn’t disclose them - his attorneys did. So they ratted him out as the professional ethics require. Why were Biden’s attorneys rifling through a closet at the University of Pennsylvania in the first place?

There’s no denying that they are more secure at Mar-a-Lago than at a university.
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What you wrote is irrelevant. Mar-a-Lago isn't a designated federal depository for federal documents. We can argue about whether it was secure or not but that's also irrelevant. Trump was required to return them to the government -- but instead refused, stonewalled, obstructed there return, concealed them, lied to the court that they were returned, and finally asserted falsely that they were his.

The PA University is also not a designated federal depository for federal documents. The difference is that when Biden's attorney discovered them, the White House immediately to action to get them to the rightful location. If you can't recognize the difference you are the textbook definition of the Upton Sinclair quote: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
 
VySky said:
Ignorance of the law is no defense.
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That's a nice catchphrase but the legal term involved is willingly and intentionally
 
tanj said:
stop defending Biden. as VP he had no right to remove those documents to where they were discovered. as VP he had no authority to declassify. willfully and knowingly are not required by the law in question.
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Where did you read that information?
 
Napoleon said:
That was Biden’s obligation under the law when he left office. Stuffing papers into a box without knowing what they are isn’t a defense for mishandling classified documents so it’s not a relevant question.
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How do you know this?
 
Napoleon said:
There is no explanation for that offered in the article. One does not hire attorneys just to move boxes.
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Biden’s personal attorneys found the documents when packing files, the White House has said, and then the counsel’s office notified the National Archives and Records Administration. Biden’s lawyers provided the documents to the National Archives the day after they found them and are still cooperating in the matter being reviewed by the US attorney in Chicago, according to the White House.

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Biden’s lawyers say they found the government materials in November while closing out an office that Biden used as part of his relationship with the University of Pennsylvania, where he was an honorary professor from 2017 to 2019.
 
Napoleon said:
The whole point is that’s impossible to know. Why were Biden’s attorneys rifling through a closet at the University of Pennsylvania in the first place?
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That was answered in the articles I posted. The office is being moved to another location.
Since it's impossible to know, why do you continue posting?
 
MTAtech said:
What you wrote is irrelevant. Mar-a-Lago isn't a designated federal depository for federal documents. We can argue about whether it was secure or not but that's also irrelevant. Trump was required to return them to the government -- but instead refused, stonewalled, obstructed there return, concealed them, lied to the court that they were returned, and finally asserted falsely that they were his.

The PA University is also not a designated federal depository for federal documents. The difference is that when Biden's attorney discovered them, the White House immediately to action to get them to the rightful location. If you can't recognize the difference you are the textbook definition of the Upton Sinclair quote: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
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No, the difference is that Biden was in illegal possession of these documents unbeknownst to the Archives for 6 years. And, for reasons that have not been explained, his attorneys rifled through his office closet and reported it to the DOJ when they found them.
 
Napoleon said:
I mean..stashing stolen SCI documents in a university closet for 6 years is not what I would call cooperative self-reporting. Also, Biden didn’t self-report anything. From what CNN has been reporting - Biden didn’t even know that his attorneys referred this to the DOJ. Did he know that they raided his closet? Why were they there in the first place?

Lol..I mean..how did this happen in your mind? Did Biden have a lucid moment in Mexico and remember that he stole top secret classified documents six years ago and tell his attorneys to fetch them?
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All of the stories I've seen explain the answer to your question. Did you read anything before posting?
 
Napoleon said:
No, the difference is that Biden was in illegal possession of these documents unbeknownst to the Archives for 6 years. And, for reasons that have not been explained, his attorneys rifled through his office closet and reported it to the DOJ when they found them.
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Again , the answer to your question has been in the news since last night. Please read before making claims and accusations.
 
soap box said:
Again , the answer to your question has been in the news since last night. Please read before making claims and accusations.
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Bullshit. When people are just moving they call movers. They don’t hire attorneys to move their shit from point A to point B.
 
Napoleon said:
Bullshit. When people are just moving they call movers. They don’t hire attorneys to move their shit from point A to point B.
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Rich people do.
 
Napoleon said:
So then why were his attorneys rifling through a closet at the University of Pennsylvania in the first place?
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The answer to your question is contained in every article I've read. Did you read anything about this yet?
 
soap box said:
The answer to your question is contained in every article I've read. Did you read anything about this yet?
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No article explains why Biden hired attorneys for the simple task of moving boxes from one office to another. That does not require a law degree. The only reason for doing that is if you know there are things you’re not supposed to have that could be exposed in the process of moving.
 
tanj said:
that "massive" difference is irrelevant. IF a crime was committed, it would still be a crime whether it was one document, or a thousand. it would be in the taking of the document, not in how quickly anyone cooperated.
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Except that's not how the law works. One guy kills his wife, hides her body, and denies having done it.

Another guy kills his wife (accidentally?), immediately calls the police, and cooperates fully with the investigation.

The law takes into account lots of facts surrounding a crime. So do juries.
 
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