CIA conservative Dem, Slotkin, has a strategy to beat Trump (1 Viewer)

[Dans La Lune]

A conservative Dem has a great new strategy to beat Trump: Ditch the woke bullshit, wrap yourself in the flag and appeal to conservatives. It's a strategy! If only there was a recent example of this strategy to judge its merits. Lets all get in the time machine and go waaaaay back to 2024. Not far back enough? How about 2016?

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'Slotkin’s plan lays out why she thinks Democrats suffered sweeping setbacks last year, including focus groups of home-state voters who she said described her party as “weak and woke.” It defines success as winning a number of upcoming battles, including at the Supreme Court.'

“We need to have this fight as a nation about whether we should still uphold the Constitution and still believe there are three co-equal branches of government and the president is blatantly ignoring one of those branches right now,” Slotkin said. “I wouldn’t have picked this case myself, because it’s hard with the El Salvador piece. He’s in another country, but the case picked us.”

She oozes moral righteousness.

Anyway, I wouldn't be opposed to calling in the The Hogg on this one.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/24/slotkin-has-a-war-plan-to-beat-trump-dont-be-weak-and-woke-00308176

 

[Dans La Lune]

Her strategy also focuses on language and tone. She said Democrats should stop using the term “oligarchy,” a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes “kings.” And to beat their weak and woke rap, Democrats should channel the “no-bullshit” energy of the Lions’ Campbell, she said, “A wonderfully sappy guy with his players,” but who is also “smart and tough and lovable.”

Slotkin plans to deliver another speech — which is set to focus on “killing sacred cows” — sometime next month.

Something tells me this involves transgender people.

 

[Mycroft]

A conservative Dem has a great new strategy to beat Trump: Ditch the woke bullshit, wrap yourself in the flag and appeal to conservatives. It's a strategy! If only there was a recent example of this strategy to judge its merits. Lets all get in the time machine and go waaaaay back to 2024. Not far back enough? How about 2016?

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'Slotkin’s plan lays out why she thinks Democrats suffered sweeping setbacks last year, including focus groups of home-state voters who she said described her party as “weak and woke.” It defines success as winning a number of upcoming battles, including at the Supreme Court.'

“We need to have this fight as a nation about whether we should still uphold the Constitution and still believe there are three co-equal branches of government and the president is blatantly ignoring one of those branches right now,” Slotkin said. “I wouldn’t have picked this case myself, because it’s hard with the El Salvador piece. He’s in another country, but the case picked us.”

She oozes moral righteousness.

Anyway, I wouldn't be opposed to calling in the The Hogg on this one.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/24/slotkin-has-a-war-plan-to-beat-trump-dont-be-weak-and-woke-00308176

So...she wants to successfully bring a criminal, gang member, illegal alien back to the US and she wants the Democratic Party to hang their election hats on that accomplishment.

LOL!!

Okay, lady...good luck with that.

 

[element94]

So...she wants to successfully bring a criminal, gang member, illegal alien back to the US and she wants the Democratic Party to hang their election hats on that accomplishment.

LOL!!

Okay, lady...good luck with that.

You guys got a criminal, right? Yeah, that's right, and complete with convictions on 34 counts of fraud. Sort of says it all doesn't it?

 

[bomberfox]

Meh the downfall of America will make it easier to install democratic socialism.

 

[Phys251]

Meh the downfall of America will make it easier to install democratic socialism.

Or permanent totalitarianism.

 

[element94]

Or permanent totalitarianism.

No doubt, it's in our midst.

 

[Jezcoe]

Can Slotkin define “wokeness”?

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

A conservative Dem has a great new strategy to beat Trump: Ditch the woke bullshit, wrap yourself in the flag and appeal to conservatives. It's a strategy! If only there was a recent example of this strategy to judge its merits. Lets all get in the time machine and go waaaaay back to 2024. Not far back enough? How about 2016?

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'Slotkin’s plan lays out why she thinks Democrats suffered sweeping setbacks last year, including focus groups of home-state voters who she said described her party as “weak and woke.” It defines success as winning a number of upcoming battles, including at the Supreme Court.'

“We need to have this fight as a nation about whether we should still uphold the Constitution and still believe there are three co-equal branches of government and the president is blatantly ignoring one of those branches right now,” Slotkin said. “I wouldn’t have picked this case myself, because it’s hard with the El Salvador piece. He’s in another country, but the case picked us.”

She oozes moral righteousness.

Anyway, I wouldn't be opposed to calling in the The Hogg on this one.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/24/slotkin-has-a-war-plan-to-beat-trump-dont-be-weak-and-woke-00308176

Slotkin and all these other moderate Democrats just need to shut the **** up for once. They have no credibility left....not after the past 3 presidential elections.

They will lead us to ruin yet again in 2028 with their "we need more Liz Cheneys and RINOs to vote for us!!!" bullshit strategy.

 

[iliveonramen]

Yeah, hard pass. Her talking about Alpha energy lost me.

 

[The Populist Right]

To win an election, you either have to be economically on the left or moderately socially conservative. Being both is a huge plus but you have to have one of those. These "I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal and we need someone in the middle!" types just don't get politics. I mean, that's basically what the Democrats today are anyways. Kamala bragged about having the endorsement of corporate CEOs. Most people care less than zero about who they want for president.

Saying Democrats should moderate on economic issues is laughable when minimum wage/paid sick leave referendums pass in deep red states.

 

[element94]

I think the left needs a screamer with some spot-on takedowns, which should be very easy. The downside is we're no longer a serious country.

 

[Craig234]

Can Slotkin define “wokeness”?

Anti-slavery, pro-women voting, anti-segregations, anti-racism legacy inequality, pro-gay equal rights, understanding and respecting transgender people - the last century of progress against discrimination.

 

[Parrish]

Something tells me this involves transgender people.

Who are American voters. Like those who support education, civil rights, raising the minimum wage.

 

[cpwill]

A conservative Dem has a great new strategy to beat Trump: Ditch the woke bullshit, wrap yourself in the flag and appeal to conservatives. It's a strategy! If only there was a recent example of this strategy to judge its merits. Lets all get in the time machine and go waaaaay back to 2024. Not far back enough? How about 2016?

In 2024, Democrats suffered under Biden and then tossed in Harris who got excoriated for being too "woke"

Per the Financial Times:





And from the Democratic Research Initiative BluePrint:




In 2016, Democrats ran Hillary, a candidate widely despised outside of the party, so devoid of ideals that her campaign basically boiled down to "It's Her Turn".

Anyway, I wouldn't be opposed to calling in the The Hogg on this one.

I'm sure. I, also, would prefer it if reality were to mold itself such that a stricter adherence to my ideological preferences were also wildly popular.

Unfortunately (or fortunately, I guess, depending on where you are sitting).... that is not the case for either of us.

 

[Jezcoe]

In 2024, Democrats suffered under Biden and then tossed in Harris who got excoriated for being too "woke"

Define "woke"

 

[cpwill]

Define "woke"

I would say in this case it would be adherence to radical preferences and shibboleths particular to the activist base of the Democrat party.

In 2020, everyone rushed to try to compete with Bernie for the Left side of the lane (which opened up room for Biden to win based on a crazy new strategy of "Don't Scare The Normies"); Harris basically tried to run for President of Left Wing Twitter. That came back to bite her - hard.

 

[Mr. Invisible]

Meh the downfall of America will make it easier to install democratic socialism.

Honestly doubtful. Most Americans would be fine with an open fascist regime. They keep their heads down and live their lives quietly.

 

[Jezcoe]

I would say in this case it would be adherence to radical preferences and shibboleths particular to the activist base of the Democrat party.

And what are those?

In 2020, everyone rushed to try to compete with Bernie for the Left side of the lane (which opened up room for Biden to win based on a crazy new strategy of "Don't Scare The Normies"); Harris basically tried to run for President of Left Wing Twitter. That came back to bite her - hard.

Was woke panic a thing in 2020?

 

[Jezcoe]

Honestly doubtful. Most Americans would be fine with an open fascist regime. They keep their heads down and live their lives quietly.

There is a particular thing about human nature that as long as it isn’t affecting me it’s okay… even if it is wrong to the core of my being.

 

[bomberfox]

I would say in this case it would be adherence to radical preferences and shibboleths particular to the activist base of the Democrat party.

In 2020, everyone rushed to try to compete with Bernie for the Left side of the lane (which opened up room for Biden to win based on a crazy new strategy of "Don't Scare The Normies"); Harris basically tried to run for President of Left Wing Twitter. That came back to bite her - hard.

She barely mentioned that many woke things.

 

[cpwill]

She barely mentioned that many woke things.

In 2024, she mostly tried to run on Abortion and Trump. Unfortunately for her, Trump was able to run on Harris in 2020, which she utterly failed to distance herself from.

 

[cpwill]

And what are those?

I would say state funded gender "transitions" for illegal aliens who break our laws and end up in prison definitely count.

Was woke panic a thing in 2020

Hm. There were definitely many aspects of moral panic that overlapped.

 

[Dans La Lune]

I would say in this case it would be adherence to radical preferences and shibboleths particular to the activist base of the Democrat party.

Spoken like the beneficiary of systemic injustices.

In 2020, everyone rushed to try to compete with Bernie for the Left side of the lane (which opened up room for Biden to win based on a crazy new strategy of "Don't Scare The Normies"); Harris basically tried to run for President of Left Wing Twitter. That came back to bite her - hard.

Gaza was more of an issue for Dems who voted for Biden in 2020 but didn't vote for Kamala in 2024. Especially in key swing states. Meaning that had Dems been more woke, they'd likely have won convincingly.

 

[Dans La Lune]

In 2024, she mostly tried to run on Abortion and Trump. Unfortunately for her, Trump was able to run on Harris in 2020, which she utterly failed to distance herself from.

Culture issues only resonate when you offer nothing but Liz Cheney, and when the other side puts hundreds of millions of dollars into fomenting hatred against scapegoats.