Chronic absenteeism in Chicago Public Schools is on the rise

[Rickeroo]

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/near...-schools-students-chronically-absent-in-2022/

Although unhealthy for me, I'm feeling a bit judgemental today. I'll be making fun of Chicago through sarcasm.

Just 14% of 3rd through 8th grade students from low-income families met proficiency standards in reading and 9% in math this spring. Compared to students who are not from low-income families, low-income students were 28 percentage points less likely to score as proficient in reading and 27 percentage points less likely in math.

My school district is pretty successful academically today, but a few years ago they were in the same boat as Chicago. They tried the standard diversity/equity/inclusion route like most public schools, but it wasn't resulting in better student performance. After some soul searching, they found that DEI was merely the surface of a much deeper problem: whiteness. They then set to work on developing tools in order to deal with the whiteness problem.

Once the district had access to the foundations of chronic absenteeism and low academic performance, things improved dramatically. Of particular help was "How White People Got Made" and "What's Up with White Women?".

My suggestion would be that Chicago Public create a toolkit that addresses whiteness - it's instrumental in improving academic outcomes.

 

[TheParser]

Public schools in rough neighborhoods have always performed badly.

The reason?

Absenteeism and bad behavior (teachers are so busy being cops that they have little time to actually teach.

The situation, in my opinion, will NEVER improve.


(Hear tell that some students from rough neighborhoods do very well in Catholic schools where the 3 Rs are emphasized and troublemakers are quickly expelled.)

 

[Rickeroo]

Public schools in rough neighborhoods have always performed badly.

The reason?

Absenteeism and bad behavior (teachers are so busy being cops that they have little time to actually teach.

The situation, in my opinion, will NEVER improve.


(Hear tell that some students from rough neighborhoods do very well in Catholic schools where the 3 Rs are emphasized and troublemakers are quickly expelled.)

Agree. I'm not sure of the exact percentage, but the students themselves (and resulting family backgrounds) are the majority factor in a district's performance. However, in light of Stand and Deliver Theory (1988), teachers and school policy can contribute to student outcomes.

 

[Loulit01]

I was chronically absent. Out of the 640 days I should have been in high school I showed up for about 240. Hasn't hurt me none. Oh, wait...

 

[aociswundumho]

Once the district had access to the foundations of chronic absenteeism and low academic performance, things improved dramatically.

That link gave me a headache. Unbelievable as to how much time and resources they are wasting on this woke bullshit.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/near...-schools-students-chronically-absent-in-2022/

Although unhealthy for me, I'm feeling a bit judgemental today. I'll be making fun of Chicago through sarcasm.

Just 14% of 3rd through 8th grade students from low-income families met proficiency standards in reading and 9% in math this spring. Compared to students who are not from low-income families, low-income students were 28 percentage points less likely to score as proficient in reading and 27 percentage points less likely in math.

My school district is pretty successful academically today, but a few years ago they were in the same boat as Chicago. They tried the standard diversity/equity/inclusion route like most public schools, but it wasn't resulting in better student performance. After some soul searching, they found that DEI was merely the surface of a much deeper problem: whiteness. They then set to work on developing tools in order to deal with the whiteness problem.

Once the district had access to the foundations of chronic absenteeism and low academic performance, things improved dramatically. Of particular help was "How White People Got Made" and "What's Up with White Women?".

My suggestion would be that Chicago Public create a toolkit that addresses whiteness - it's instrumental in improving academic outcomes.

"White Privilege".....LMAO.

Just a dumb term completely made up by a "college activist". So...in other words a SJW completely untethered from reality.
I am not sure what we are to do with this poor "oppressed" demographic. The government makes an EXTREMELY poor substitute for a father IMHO. And the whole sad cycle gets repeated over and over, with more and more fatherless degenerate children being turned loose into the streets daily where they run wild and lawless.

Theres just too much black Grievance going around today, too much grievance and not enough EFFORT being put forth imo.

I think Chris Rock NAILED it when he said that any black person that is serious about succeeding in the USA: act White. Act like a middle aged White guy. When in Rome, you do as the Romans do. Heh heh heh, I'll have to watch some Chris Rock today, guys freaking HILARIOUS.

 

[multivita-man]

Public schools in rough neighborhoods have always performed badly.

The reason?

Absenteeism and bad behavior (teachers are so busy being cops that they have little time to actually teach.

The situation, in my opinion, will NEVER improve.

But this situation is not inherently insolvable. It's only insolvable to the extent that the changes required to improve 'inner city' America are those that will get shot down by congress, legislatures, and the courts.

If we were to dramatically reduce the number of guns in society, that would lead to a dramatic decrease in the worst crimes. If we were to imprison people for violent crimes and invest more resources for rehabilitation and more importantly, education and job training, that would also help. Maybe controversially, on the flip side, change welfare so that immature, unqualified parents can't depend on the state to help raise their kids. I'm not against welfare - there's a need, but some of it needs to be rethought.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I was chronically absent. Out of the 640 days I should have been in high school I showed up for about 240. Hasn't hurt me none. Oh, wait...

I missed more school than I attended in High School.
I couldnt freaking stand it. Although I did manage to graduate, somehow. I was smart enough to squeak by even if I was seldom there. But it was different back then, in some districts you didnt have to worry much about truancy. Although I did get a letter sent home informing my father of my excessive absences,
It did hurt me, I was grounded from going to the Van Halen concert which I had tickets for. And this was in the early 80s during Van Halens hay day, I still regret missing that show.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

It's only insolvable to the extent that the changes required to improve 'inner city' America

The inner city will have to be fixed....by the people that live there.
And that surely is NOT happening anytime soon IMO.

You could build a brand new house for everyone there, and new schools, and in 6 months all of the copper plumbing would be gone and it would be a DUMP. Thats how some people CHOOSE to live. I dont believe it can be fixed from the outside, as I said the folks that live there will have to take the lead.
Flood these areas with FREE birth control, that may be one thing that would have at least some effect.
Its not as simple as throwing money at it IMO, there has to be a culture shift and today people are only hearing how their failures and shortcomings, their lack of planning, and their extremely POOR decision making are the fault of White people. Its a very harmful message.
I'm not trying to pick on blacks, there are White areas the same way. There is a White rural "slum" not too far from here. Most of the town is White hicks on welfare. Its a DUMP. I will say one thing though: they dont shoot each other constantly like they do in the 'hood. What is up with the violence? I dunno, but I will certainly avoid going into any of those areas. Dont want to get carjacked.

 

[americanwoman]

The inner city will have to be fixed....by the people that live there.
And that surely is NOT happening anytime soon IMO.

You could build a brand new house for everyone there, and new schools, and in 6 months all of the copper plumbing would be gone and it would be a DUMP. Thats how some people CHOOSE to live. I dont believe it can be fixed from the outside, as I said the folks that live there will have to take the lead.
Flood these areas with FREE birth control, that may be one thing that would have at least some effect.
Its not as simple as throwing money at it IMO, there has to be a culture shift and today people are only hearing how their failures and shortcomings, their lack of planning, and their extremely POOR decision making are the fault of White people. Its a very harmful message.
I'm not trying to pick on blacks, there are White areas the same way. There is a White rural "slum" not too far from here. Most of the town is White hicks on welfare. Its a DUMP. I will say one thing though: they dont shoot each other constantly like they do in the 'hood. What is up with the violence? I dunno, but I will certainly avoid going into any of those areas. Dont want to get carjacked.

I think you are trying to pick on black people. White people live in the inner city too, not just "white areas" yet you seem to blame on inner city issues on all the black people that live there.

 

[TheParser]

But this situation is not inherently insolvable.

I hope that your optimism is warranted.

Have a nice weekend!

 

[multivita-man]

I hope that your optimism is warranted.

Have a nice weekend!

I'm optimistic that it can be solved, not that it will be.

 

[Tigerace117]

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/near...-schools-students-chronically-absent-in-2022/

Although unhealthy for me, I'm feeling a bit judgemental today. I'll be making fun of Chicago through sarcasm.

Just 14% of 3rd through 8th grade students from low-income families met proficiency standards in reading and 9% in math this spring. Compared to students who are not from low-income families, low-income students were 28 percentage points less likely to score as proficient in reading and 27 percentage points less likely in math.

My school district is pretty successful academically today, but a few years ago they were in the same boat as Chicago. They tried the standard diversity/equity/inclusion route like most public schools, but it wasn't resulting in better student performance. After some soul searching, they found that DEI was merely the surface of a much deeper problem: whiteness. They then set to work on developing tools in order to deal with the whiteness problem.

Once the district had access to the foundations of chronic absenteeism and low academic performance, things improved dramatically. Of particular help was "How White People Got Made" and "What's Up with White Women?".

My suggestion would be that Chicago Public create a toolkit that addresses whiteness - it's instrumental in improving academic outcomes.

Poor poor Rickeroo, still so immensely triggered that people have noticed white privilege exists.

 

[multivita-man]

The inner city will have to be fixed....by the people that live there.

I don't entirely disagree.

You could build a brand new house for everyone there, and new schools, and in 6 months all of the copper plumbing would be gone and it would be a DUMP. Thats how some people CHOOSE to live. I dont believe it can be fixed from the outside, as I said the folks that live there will have to take the lead.

Unfortunately, they also trap others in the same community who want nothing to do with this shit.

Flood these areas with FREE birth control, that may be one thing that would have at least some effect.

Easy access to abortion and birth control - agree. And maybe experimenting with some structural changes in welfare - easier said than done, obviously.

Its not as simple as throwing money at it IMO, there has to be a culture shift

I think this is the crux of it. I agree that crime, particularly violent crime, can be at least partly a cultural phenomenon, which is not to be confused with a racial phenomenon. That being said, structural racism has had a lot to do with the creation of microcultures and how people deal with things like economic, legal, and social stressors, and how they resolve conflicts. Other factors like the reinforcement of violent themes in mass media and our cultural consumables (if I can use that term) also have an impact, IMO. The ease with which someone can obtain a firearm is yet another factor.

Criminology research - at least in the US - suggests that people who are affluent or at least reliably working class don't commit a lot of crime, not because they're better people or because they're from superior cultures but because they have something to lose. The kinds of structural inequality that our system has established and maintained over the years has created a microculture in which their path out of poverty is unclear, in some cases possibly reinforcing a narrative that they have little or nothing to lose.

So long answer to your post but yes, I do agree that there's a cultural component and that to a great extent, solutions have to come within. But the start and continuation of that process, I believe, is directly related to, if not dependent on, the larger community as a whole having some empathy for a community's struggles and committing to reducing economic, legal, political, and social inequality. I think these have to occur side by side, simultaneously.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Poor poor Rickeroo, still so immensely triggered that people have noticed white privilege exists.

"White Privilege"...BWAHAHAHAHA, literally a 100% fabricated term, plucked from the air one day not long ago by a "college activist", and people started using it and POOF!! Suddenly it was an actual "thing" LOLOL.
Yeah, you will enjoy more "privilege" if you have parents, TWO of them that provide and care for you. You will have more "privilege" if people are putting money away for your education. You will have "privilege" if you actually work hard and apply yourself at school and steer clear of gangs.

Some people will have more "privilege" than others, for sure. But that is determined by effort expended and by solid planning, not by skin color. DERP. All reasonable and intelligent people are fully aware of this Tiger.

 

[Tigerace117]

"White Privilege"...BWAHAHAHAHA, literally a 100% fabricated term, plucked from the air one day not long ago by a "college activist", and people started using it and POOF!! Suddenly it was an actual "thing" LOLOL.
Yeah, you will enjoy more "privilege" if you have parents, TWO of them that provide and care for you. You will have more "privilege" if people are putting money away for your education. You will have "privilege" if you actually work hard and apply yourself at school and steer clear of gangs.

Some people will have more "privilege" than others, for sure. But that is determined by effort expended and by solid planning, not by skin color. DERP. All reasonable and intelligent people are fully aware of this Tiger.

What a surprise, the guy who constantly excuses extrajudicial killings of African Americans by cops is triggered by having to face the fact white privilege exists.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I think you are trying to pick on black people.

I am stating some uncomfortable truths.
Yes, there are Whites in those areas too, I used to be one of them. I lived a block from Grady Homes in Atlanta, one of the most notorious housing developments in the NATION, back in the 1980s. On Hill Street. I've been there. LIVED there. I think thats where the name "Hill Street Blues" came from, the TV show. It was just as bad as Compton and East LA. I rode my bike through the park one night and there were two people murdered close enough to me where I heard the yelling. Its amazing nothing happened to me there. I did a lot of crazy stuff and took risks. Only blind luck that I didnt die there, plenty do.Yes, its ALL the people, not just the blacks. But these areas are known as predominately black areas. And they are predominately black in most cases. Just like rural hayseed areas are almost always predominately White. Thats the reality of the situation. White trash, yeah, there is certainly no shortage of that. Thats why "White Privilege" is so laughable. One of the many reasons. The skin color got nothing to do with any of it. Its the behavior that makes a person what they are, not the color.