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China's president Xi: "The world can move on without the United States"

Anyone that prefers China over the United States just proved they have no credibility.
Laughably over simplistic. I don't think anyone thinks of China as a nation they want to emulate politically, but doing business with them does seem to be preferable given their massive growth and expansion throughout the world.

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Laughably over simplistic. I don't think anyone thinks of China as a nation they want to emulate politically, but doing business with them does seem to be preferable given their massive growth and expansion throughout the world.

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The pole was about overall perception not economics so my point stands
 
The pole was about overall perception not economics so my point stands
The economics is a factor into how they're perceived though, since that is the main interaction nations have with China. From a political perspective they are non interventionist (with regional exceptions), so they don't carry the baggage the US does since the latter's been at the lead of a lot of interventionism.
 
Anyone that prefers China over the United States just proved they have no credibility
China is looking like a more stable and trustworthy trading partner these days.

When the US vests the power to crash the world economy into a single unhinged person… it looks to me that people view the US as having too much power and would want to diversify away from it.
 
Anyone that prefers China over the United States just proved they have no credibility

Someone just prove they have no credibility, but it isn't any of the people you're talking about.
 
China is looking like a more stable and trustworthy trading partner these days.

When the US vests the power to crash the world economy into a single unhinged person… it looks to me that people view the US as having too much power and would want to diversify away from it.
That's pretty ridiculous asking for equal trade is not unreasonable.

More importantly the pole was just about economics it was overall favorability and my point strongly stands considering that
 
The economics is a factor into how they're perceived though, since that is the main interaction nations have with China. From a political perspective they are non interventionist (with regional exceptions), so they don't carry the baggage the US does since the latter's been at the lead of a lot of interventionism
And again if that bothers you more than genocide then your credibility is below zero
 
China expands its Belt & Road initiative which assists nations in building highways, ports, 5G networks, etc.

Trump/Musk gutted/dismantled USAID, which assisted poorer nations in numerous and valuable ways.

China will take full advantage of the "opportunity vacuum".
 
That's pretty ridiculous asking for equal trade is not unreasonable.
What is unreasonable is putting a tarrif on the the entire planet in an unhinged and unplanned way that is so amateurish that it includes uninhabited islands.

Who can trust a trading partner that tariffs penguins?
More importantly the pole was just about economics it was overall favorability and my point strongly stands considering that
The US is imploding itself for no reason other than to feed billionaires more money.

The world can see this internal instability.

We have become untrustworthy on the world stage and the world is adjusting to this.
 
What is unreasonable is putting a tarrif on the the entire planet in an unhinged and unplanned way that is so amateurish that it includes uninhabited islands.

Who can trust a trading partner that tariffs penguins?

The US is imploding itself for no reason other than to feed billionaires more money.

The world can see this internal instability.

We have become untrustworthy on the world stage and the world is adjusting to this.
Be careful about making an argument while avoiding personal attacks, because you might get this kind of rebuttal...
your credibility is below zero
 
I highly encourage China to move everything out of the USA and quit selling us their cheap crap stuff made with forced/cheap labor. Don't allow China to own businesses/land in the USA and let them move on without us

please, yes, PLEASE
 
China expands its Belt & Road initiative which assists nations in building highways, ports, 5G networks, etc.

Trump/Musk gutted/dismantled USAID, which assisted poorer nations in numerous and valuable ways.

China will take full advantage of the "opportunity vacuum".
The "opportunity vacuum" is in their very own country.
 
I highly encourage China to move everything out of the USA and quit selling us their cheap crap stuff made with forced/cheap labor. Don't allow China to own businesses/land in the USA and let them move on without us

please, yes, PLEASE
One would have to have US corporations do that.

It was decades of Neo-Liberal free market policies that got us to this point.
 
Be careful about making an argument while avoiding personal attacks, because you might get this kind of rebuttal...
If you read the context you see that wasn't directed at him so your attempt to find a negative from the "other tribe" failed
 
What is unreasonable is putting a tarrif on the the entire planet in an unhinged and unplanned way that is so amateurish that it includes uninhabited islands.

Who can trust a trading partner that tariffs penguins?
That smells like tribalist spin
The US is imploding itself for no reason other than to feed billionaires more money.

The world can see this internal instability.

We have become untrustworthy on the world stage and the world is adjusting to this.
There's nothing untrustworthy about demanding equal trade terms
 
If you read the context you see that wasn't directed at him so your attempt to find a negative from the "other tribe" failed
Really?
The economics is a factor into how they're perceived though, since that is the main interaction nations have with China. From a political perspective they are non interventionist (with regional exceptions), so they don't carry the baggage the US does since the latter's been at the lead of a lot of interventionism.
And again if that bothers you more than genocide then your credibility is below zero
 
I highly encourage China to move everything out of the USA and quit selling us their cheap crap stuff made with forced/cheap labor. Don't allow China to own businesses/land in the USA and let them move on without us

please, yes, PLEASE
That would only raise prices and limit products for American consumers.
 
That smells like tribalist spin
How so?

Trump left the G7 yesterday leaving the rest of those nations to basically figure out what to do without the US.

They can see that the US is becoming increasingly more and more unstable.

It would be in other country’s interest to decouple from the US as it is becoming more and more of an untrustworthy partner.
There's nothing untrustworthy about demanding equal trade terms
When a President negotiates a trade deal… let’s say with Canada and a few years later unilaterally decides that that deal that he negotiated is a bad deal and then imposes retaliatory tariffs… that is being 100% untrustworthy
 
Anyone that prefers China over the United States just proved they have no credibility
75% of the world?

 
75% of the world?

ironically the pole shows how just How Great America is
 
How so?

Trump left the G7 yesterday leaving the rest of those nations to basically figure out what to do without the US.

They can see that the US is becoming increasingly more and more unstable.

It would be in other country’s interest to decouple from the US as it is becoming more and more of an untrustworthy partner.
I'm guessing the highly paid Elite experts in those countries no more than you. and you can bet your ass they won't decouple from the United States except for the ass backwards countries
When a President negotiates a trade deal… let’s say with Canada and a few years later unilaterally decides that that deal that he negotiated is a bad deal and then imposes retaliatory tariffs… that is being 100% untrustworthy
 
I'm guessing the highly paid Elite experts in those countries no more than you. and you can bet your ass they won't decouple from the United States except for the ass backwards countries
They already are working on it.
 
Yes really.

I was specifically referring to those in the pole that preferred genocidal countries over the United States which I'm assuming this poster does not.

You scan up at the previous post to get contacts you'll see that clearly
 
Yes really.

I was specifically referring to those in the pole that preferred genocidal countries over the United States which I'm assuming this poster does not.

You scan up at the previous post to get contacts you'll see that clearly
Uhuh :rolleyes:
 
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