China's CCP warns Elon Musk against sharing Wuhan lab leak report

[Ahlevah]

• Chinese state-run media warned Tesla CEO Elon Musk that he was risking his relationship with China, after the executive retweeted about a "low-confidence" assessment that the Covid pandemic originated in a Wuhan laboratory.
• The warning comes ahead of a Congressional hearing on China, and after the downing of a Chinese espionage balloon heightened tensions between China and the U.S.

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Up to this point, without China Tesla isn’t Tesla. Moral of the story: As we’ve seen with other businesses that operate in China, such as Disney and the NBA, be prepared to surrender your constitutional rights and accept the growing geopolitical risk of doing business there, or pay the consequences.

 

[SCrider]

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Moral of the story: As we’ve seen with other businesses that operate in China, such as Disney and the NBA, be prepared to surrender your constitutional rights and accept the growing geopolitical risk of doing business there, or pay the consequences.

Our constitutional rights transfer to other countries? weird.

 

[Ahlevah]

Our constitutional rights transfer to other countries? weird.

No. Elon Musk doesn’t live in China. He lives in Texas—the land of Angus cattle, West Texas Intermediate Crude, and big opinions on everything under a Midland summer sun. But going forward he’ll need to shut up on topics depicting China in a negative light if he wants to continue doing business there unfettered. While it’s not an official surrender of his right of free speech, it might as well be.

 

[TheParser]

Hopefully, Mr. M. will tell Red China to go jump in the lake.

How pitiful that so many American businessmen and athletes kowtow to the Communists.

Hopefully, someone or some nation will make China stay in its lane.

How ironic! Maybe Asia now needs Japan has its protector.

 

[SCrider]

No. Elon Musk doesn’t live in China. He lives in Texas—the land of Angus cattle, West Texas Intermediate Crude, and big opinions on everything under a Midland summer sun. But going forward he’ll need to shut up on topics depicting China in a negative light if he wants to continue doing business there unfettered. While it’s not an official surrender of his right of free speech, it might as well be.

Well he has a choice to make. Keep his business in china or not. Still not a constitutional issue. If i was to do business in China i would also have to abide by their rules for that business, just like any other country in the world.

 

[SCrider]

Hopefully, Mr. M. will tell Red China to go jump in the lake.

How pitiful that so many American businessmen and athletes kowtow to the Communists.

Hopefully, someone or some nation will make China stay in its lane.

How ironic! Maybe Asia now needs Japan has its protector.

And give up all that money?
It's purely a business decision at this point. Do Business in China or not. To do business means playing by their rules. Just as doing business in the United States means playing by ours.

 

[TheParser]

To do business means playing by their rules. Just as doing business in the United States means playing by ours.

But the United States is a good country.

China is a bad country.

 

[SCrider]

But the United States is a good country.

China is a bad country.

Generally speaking, yes. But opinions may very depending on what part of the world you come from.

 

[PoS]

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Up to this point, without China Tesla isn’t Tesla. Moral of the story: As we’ve seen with other businesses that operate in China, such as Disney and the NBA, be prepared to surrender your constitutional rights and accept the growing geopolitical risk of doing business there, or pay the consequences.

But if Musk retweeted it, then wouldnt that mean he already shared it?

 

[j brown's body]

I wouldn't trust information from either China or Musk. They kind of deserve each other.

 

[Ahlevah]

Hopefully, Mr. M. will tell Red China to go jump in the lake.

How pitiful that so many American businessmen and athletes kowtow to the Communists.

Hopefully, someone or some nation will make China stay in its lane.

How ironic! Maybe Asia now needs Japan has its protector.

I just saw another report on CNBC regarding a potential ban on TikTok as a national security risk gaining traction in congress. The report also mentioned that direct foreign investment in China is at an 18-year low, and gave several notable examples of companies like Apple picking up their marbles and finding another game.

China is simply an unreliable business and political partner and has become not just a rival but an actual national security threat under its totalitarian leader, Chairman Xi Jinping. We shouldn’t be doing $700+ billion in bilateral trade with a country like this. We don’t need China. Most of their technology they purchased, learned, or stole from Western nations and their corporate, government, and educational institutions, like the good folks at the NIH who funded corona virus-advancing research at the Wuhan lab. Chinese state-owned media mince no words criticizing the West, especially the U.S., with their harsh, stinging rhetoric. So why are we doing business with this totalitarian cultural wasteland, where free inquiry experiences a quick, summary execution unless it’s the state doing the talking? Chairman Xi would probably be happier if he married his fellow dictator pal, Putin.

 

[SCrider]

I just saw another report on CNBC regarding a potential ban on TikTok as a national security risk gaining traction in congress. The report also mentioned that direct foreign investment in China is at an 18-year low, and gave several notable examples of companies like Apple picking up their marbles and finding another game.

China is simply an unreliable business and political partner and has become not just a rival but an actual national security threat under its totalitarian leader, Chairman Xi Jinping. We shouldn’t be doing $700+ billion in bilateral trade with a country like this. We don’t need China. Most of their technology they purchased, learned, or stole from Western nations and their corporate, government, and educational institutions, like the good folks at the NIH who funded corona virus-advancing research at the Wuhan lab. Chinese state-owned media mince no words criticizing the West, especially the U.S., with their harsh, stinging rhetoric. So why are we doing business with this totalitarian cultural wasteland, where free inquiry experiences a quick, summary execution unless it’s the state doing the talking? Chairman Xi would probably be happier if he married his fellow dictator pal, Putin.

How much more are you willing to pay for your Walmart trip each week?

 

[Ahlevah]

Well he has a choice to make. Keep his business in china or not. Still not a constitutional issue.

What you’re describing, at least in practical terms, is a distinction without a difference. No American should be forced to refrain from voicing an otherwise legal opinion in his own country due to the threat of material sanction by a foreign government. I realize China can do what it wants in this regard, but the flip side of the coin is we can, too. China is the major producer and exporter of lithium ion batteries in the world. We should invest in and promote alternate technologies, such as hydrogen fuel cells, and work to source and produce batteries and the materials that go into them elsewhere, lest China pulls the rug out from under us like it did with Covid PPE and rare earth minerals.

If i was to do business in China i would also have to abide by their rules for that business, just like any other country in the world.

Right, but if you value your ability to exercise your freedom in your own country without getting sanctioned by the Chinese government, don’t invest or do business there. So, yes, you do have a choice. But what you’re essentially doing when you accept those terms is selling your and your nation’s soul to the devil in exchange for a pursuit of the almighty dollar. I expect Elon Musk will do just that.

 

[Ahlevah]

Generally speaking, yes. But opinions may very depending on what part of the world you come from.

When it joined the United Nations, China agreed to follow and support the post-WWII international rules-based order of that organization. That presumably included not supporting the imperial ambition of a country like Russia to expand its territory through the invasion of another country and rewrite its borders. You can’t “abstain” or be neutral on an issue like this. You either support the U.N. Charter or you don’t. So pardon me for saying **** China and its girlfriend in Moscow.

 

[Ahlevah]

How much more are you willing to pay for your Walmart trip each week?

We’re no longer talking about silk flowers or children’s bicycles. Thanks to automation, when it comes to value-added products like cellphones, computers, and semiconductors, the labor-component-differential of the cost of those items is minimal. Much of their cost is in their development and the capital equipment used to produce them. To the degree labor’s a factor, goods can be produced elsewhere, and increasingly they are. Most of the athletic shoes I’ve purchased in recent years were manufactured in Vietnam. And compared to a country like Bangladesh, China isn’t the labor bargain to manufacture a shirt like it used to be. Finally, India is a growing and increasingly significant producer of electronic devices like cellphones.

Like I said, we don’t need China. In fact, aiding that country’s economic development at this point is likely counterproductive thanks to its own expansionist ambitions and increasingly assertive, even belligerent attitude. They didn’t become more democratic by letting them into the WTO, and they absolutely suck as a strategic partner or ally.

 

[Ahlevah]

But if Musk retweeted it, then wouldnt that mean he already shared it?

I suppose if he was the source of the original tweet. Regardless, the message is he needs to keep his figurative mouth shut.

 

[Taylor]

"China's CCP warns Elon Musk against sharing Wuhan lab leak report"

They sound a lot like the leftists that used to be in charge of Twitter.

 

[coyote505]

We’re no longer talking about silk flowers or children’s bicycles. Thanks to automation, when it comes to value-added products like cellphones, computers, and semiconductors, the labor-component-differential of the cost of those items is minimal. Much of their cost is in their development and the capital equipment used to produce them. To the degree labor’s a factor, goods can be produced elsewhere, and increasingly they are. Most of the athletic shoes I’ve purchased in recent years were manufactured in Vietnam. And compared to a country like Bangladesh, China isn’t the labor bargain to manufacture a shirt like it used to be. Finally, India is a growing and increasingly significant producer of electronic devices like cellphones.

Like I said, we don’t need China. In fact, aiding that country’s economic development at this point is likely counterproductive thanks to its own expansionist ambitions and increasingly assertive, even belligerent attitude. They didn’t become more democratic by letting them into the WTO, and they absolutely suck as a strategic partner or ally.

Supporting China's admission to the WTO and other trade friendly actions we took 30-40 years ago were a HUGE mistake. Given that China considers all non-Chinese to be Barbarians needing reeducation into the Chinese way; a poor, weak China would be far better for the rest of the world than a rich, strong China, using its wealth to build its military.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Hopefully, Mr. M. will tell Red China to go jump in the lake.

He won't. Business people care about business, and China is a massive market that represents a lot of potential growth for those looking to expand their profit share. Clearly to most companies that do business there, modifying their free speech values are outweighed by their financial ones.

How pitiful that so many American businessmen and athletes kowtow to the Communists.

If they choose to do business there, then they've made that choice knowingly.

Hopefully, someone or some nation will make China stay in its lane.

Who should that be, and does another nation have a right to dictate that for another? Clearly that's US policy, but it's a "might makes right" model that is always going to face a challenge.

How ironic! Maybe Asia now needs Japan has its protector.

Japan and other Asian and Oceania nations.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Hopefully, Mr. M. will tell Red China to go jump in the lake.

How pitiful that so many American businessmen and athletes kowtow to the Communists.

an entire cable network lied and kowtowed to you guys for the same reason.

$$$$

 

[ralfy]

If this article is right, then it appears that China is also trying to protect the interests of their partner, the U.S.

The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

If the case that SARS2 originated in a lab is so substantial, why isn’t this more widely known? As is now obvious, there are many people who have reason not to talk about it.

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[braindrain]

How much more are you willing to pay for your Walmart trip each week?

You think China is the only place that can make cheap crap.
May take a little time but they are replaceable

 

[SCrider]

You think China is the only place that can make cheap crap.
May take a little time but they are replaceable

Yes, and Americans are sooooo patient in the mean time.

 

[PoS]

If this article is right, then it appears that China is also trying to protect the interests of their partner, the U.S.

The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

If the case that SARS2 originated in a lab is so substantial, why isn’t this more widely known? As is now obvious, there are many people who have reason not to talk about it.

thebulletin.org

Yeah, the CCP was trying to protect their top agent, his name is Fauci.

 

[Davin]

Yeah, the CCP was trying to protect their top agent, his name is Fauci.

Which he worked for trump. So trump and his supporters are all traitors and criminals deserving of being jailed and deported Lock them up, lock them up. Trumps supporters are all pieces of shit, ironic.