Chief Justice John Roberts Agrees To Hear Case About Obama's "Birth Certificate"

[RightinNYC]

But, wouldn't the method of enforcing it be the prerogative of the other branches? Why would the Judiciary be allowed to decide the mechanism for enforcement?

What if Congress passes a law that says that the testimony of the mother and father is enough (no written documents)? What if they pass a law that says a newspaper birth announcement is enough? What about, instead, a birth certificate? How about a passport? What about nothing?

It seems to me that the prerogative would lie entirely with the other branches. Why would the judiciary get to decide what was enough? I would think that they could only decide that it was required, and it would stop there. If the legislative made a law requiring something, the judiciary would get to decide if those requirements were met, nothing more.

At least with more 'conservative' jurisprudence, if you will.

Like I said, it's one of those things that nobody really anticipated having to deal with, so it would likely be sort of made up on the fly, fitting it as best as can into the already existing system.

Wrong.

It's the DNC who backed Obama. It's the DNC who's responsible to confirm that he is eligible.

lol. Saying something doesn't make it true.

There isn't much anyone else can do because there is a Constitutional mandate without any legal way of enforcing it.

You seemed to want to celebrate the fact that no citizen-voter has standing to challenge a Presidential candidate's qualification to be President.

Oh no, some conspiracy theorist douchebags had their suits thrown out.
:hm

Do you share equal zeal for the fact that a portion of the US Constitution has now proved to be totally irrelevant?

How do you figure it's irrelevant? Arnold didn't run. And considering that Obama is qualified, I don't see what the problem is.

 

[obvious Child]

Point out to me where in the Constitution it says that the State of Hawaii is responsible for verifying the citizenship status of Presidential candidates.

Point out to me why it matters that the DNC instead of a state verifies the birth certificate.

Oh wait. It doesn't.

Witch Hunting We Will Go!

I don't give a **** what the DNC says or does. Until you have evidence to suggest that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, shut up.

I have yet to see the 338 application.

 

[obvious Child]

It's the DNC who backed Obama. It's the DNC who's responsible to confirm that he is eligible.

By that logic, everyone who backs Obama is responsible for doing that. And why can't these people take the word of a state agency responsible for birth certificates as verifying eligibility?

Oh I forgot. You think the entire state of Hawaii is in on the massive conspiracy to place a Kenyan in the White House.

Btw, where do the 9/11 nutters hang out? You must know.

Do you share equal zeal for the fact that a portion of the US Constitution has now proved to be totally irrelevant?

How has it been proved to be irrelevant? What evidence other then your idle speculation and other's hate for Obama is there to suggest he is not valid?

 

[obvious Child]

It seems that Invayne and OntheRight have decided to stop arguing their point. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well, when you can't figure out that state =/= country, you're not on good grounds as it is. That's exactly what Invayne did from the get go.

 

[LML]

Do people not realize how ridiculous this entire thing is? People who believe this nonsense must believe that:

1. A young 18 year old girl with very limited means left the comfort of having her parents nearby and updated medical care to fly around the world to have her baby in Kenya. Further they must believe that her Kenyan husband...knowing full well that he has another wife and family there....took this 18 year old white girl there so that he could confront his family with this situation.

2. That this 18 year old girl took one look at her baby's face and had the vision that one day he would want to be president so she immediately took him and her husband and hopped in a plane and flew back to Hawaii where, somehow, she managed to convince the hospital, her family, and the state that he had actually been born there and to issue him a birth certificate.

3. These same people will not take the word of the governor of Hawaii that the birth certificate has been examined and found to be legitimate BUT they will take the word of a person with an obvious axe to grind who is repeating a badly translated remark heard over a long distance telephone call to a very elderly person.

What absolute nonsense. Let's face it people. There have been 43 prior presidents and never before has there been an outcry to "show us the birth certificate." But then again, all of the previous 43 were white men with Anglo-Saxon names.

 

[1069]

Do people not realize how ridiculous this entire thing is? People who believe this nonsense must believe that:

1. A young 18 year old girl with very limited means left the comfort of having her parents nearby and updated medical care to fly around the world to have her baby in Kenya. Further they must believe that her Kenyan husband...knowing full well that he has another wife and family there....took this 18 year old white girl there so that he could confront his family with this situation.

2. That this 18 year old girl took one look at her baby's face and had the vision that one day he would want to be president so she immediately took him and her husband and hopped in a plane and flew back to Hawaii where, somehow, she managed to convince the hospital, her family, and the state that he had actually been born there and to issue him a birth certificate.

3. These same people will not take the word of the governor of Hawaii that the birth certificate has been examined and found to be legitimate BUT they will take the word of a person with an obvious axe to grind who is repeating a badly translated remark heard over a long distance telephone call to a very elderly person.

What absolute nonsense. Let's face it people. There have been 43 prior presidents and never before has there been an outcry to "show us the birth certificate." But then again, all of the previous 43 were white men with Anglo-Saxon names.

:applaud

If there were any justice in this world, that would be the end of the discussion.

 

[Jessica]

Do people not realize how ridiculous this entire thing is? People who believe this nonsense must believe that:

1. A young 18 year old girl with very limited means left the comfort of having her parents nearby and updated medical care to fly around the world to have her baby in Kenya. Further they must believe that her Kenyan husband...knowing full well that he has another wife and family there....took this 18 year old white girl there so that he could confront his family with this situation.

2. That this 18 year old girl took one look at her baby's face and had the vision that one day he would want to be president so she immediately took him and her husband and hopped in a plane and flew back to Hawaii where, somehow, she managed to convince the hospital, her family, and the state that he had actually been born there and to issue him a birth certificate.

3. These same people will not take the word of the governor of Hawaii that the birth certificate has been examined and found to be legitimate BUT they will take the word of a person with an obvious axe to grind who is repeating a badly translated remark heard over a long distance telephone call to a very elderly person.

What absolute nonsense. Let's face it people. There have been 43 prior presidents and never before has there been an outcry to "show us the birth certificate." But then again, all of the previous 43 were white men with Anglo-Saxon names.

4. The mother had a newspaper article printed with Barack's birth to help prove he was born in Hawaii in case someone learned the truth about his being born in Kenya, and he may need this proof should he run for President someday, even though no black man has ever been President before, and this in times of segregation.

You forgot that one. :mrgreen:

 

[Southern Man]

.... Let's face it people. There have been 43 prior presidents and never before has there been an outcry to "show us the birth certificate." But then again, all of the previous 43 were white men with Anglo-Saxon names.

The Race Card. What a surprise.

 

[Thorgasm]

The Race Card. What a surprise.

Then please explain the lunacy behind this conspiracy about Obama's birth.

Is it just hyper-partisanship?

Neither option makes these people look rational.

 

[LML]

The Race Card. What a surprise.

You know what? If the card that is turned up is a King, I'm not going to call it a trey just because it would make you happier with the hand you hold. I call them like I see them.

 

[Southern Man]

Then please explain the lunacy behind this conspiracy about Obama's birth.

Is it just hyper-partisanship?

Neither option makes these people look rational.

The fact that Obama and his minions have tried to quash any investigation says it for me. The issue came up with Mickey's birth qualification and he was graciously forthcoming.

Same thing with Kerry's military records v. Bush. Same thing with Bill Clinton's Health records v. Dole.

 

[Southern Man]

You know what? If the card that is turned up is a King, I'm not going to call it a trey just because it would make you happier with the hand you hold. I call them like I see them.

Except the card turns up to be a joker, and we're not playing with those.

 

[LML]

Except the card turns up to be a joker, and we're not playing with those.

If this is your way of admitting that you're not playing with a full deck, well, I guess you would know.

 

[Southern Man]

If this is your way of admitting that you're not playing with a full deck, well, I guess you would know.

Thanks for your personal insult. It matches your race card perfectly.

 

[RightinNYC]

And with that, this thread passed its expiration date.