Chemical flavorings found in e-cigarettes linked to lung disease

[Anomalism]

Chemical flavorings found in e-cigarettes linked to lung disease | Harvard Gazette

Diacetyl, a flavoring chemical linked to cases of severe respiratory disease, was found in more than 75 percent of flavored electronic cigarettes and refill liquids tested by researchers at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. Two other related, potentially harmful compounds were also found in many of the tested flavors, which included varieties with potential appeal to young people such as cotton candy, “Fruit Squirts,” and cupcake.

 

[SmokeAndMirrors]

Chemical flavorings found in e-cigarettes linked to lung disease | Harvard Gazette

Yup. I whistle-blew my way out of that industry because of this and other things... five years ago.

Hard as me and one of my coworkers tried, the word simply didn't get out. It's depressing that the industry has fought so hard and so effectively against regulation that most people are only learning about this now, when we knew this in 2010.

An industry that's supposed to be built on trying to help people, that doesn't give a crap about harming them instead. No better than cigarette companies, and in some ways, even more potentially dangerous. At least cigarette companies are controlled and don't have high school drop-outs mixing with dangerous chemicals in their basements, selling it as a "luxury" product to desperate recovering addicts.

Just shame on them.

 

[Lovebug]

Think people, think. It doesn't need a study to tell you that anything sucked into your lungs beside clean fresh air isn't good for you.

 

[SmokeAndMirrors]

Think people, think. It doesn't need a study to tell you that anything sucked into your lungs beside clean fresh air isn't good for you.

They're very effective at dishonest marketing. For example, one thing they like to talk about is that propylene glycol (one common carrier agent in e-juice) actually is fairly safe to breathe. It's used in some inhalant medications, and to produce vapor safety for fog machines. And this is what they tend to talk about when you ask about what's in the juice. A Google search will support what they say.

What they're glossing over is the flavoring, which usually contains dozens of chemicals all on its own. That's where things like diacetyl come in. And that's what they don't like to talk about.

They also don't like to talk about the material of the atomizers and cartomizers, which are shown to break down, releasing heavy metal particles that not only are inhaled by the user, but also by people around them.

They don't like to talk about exploding mods.

They don't like to talk about the toxic chain reactions from increased heat that happen at high voltage.

There's a lot they don't like to talk about.

But they talk about just enough to make the average lay person feel safe.

 

[Lovebug]

They're very effective at dishonest marketing. For example, one thing they like to talk about is that propylene glycol (one common carrier agent in e-juice) actually is fairly safe to breathe. It's used in some inhalant medications, and to produce vapor safety for fog machines. And this is what they tend to talk about when you ask about what's in the juice. A Google search will support what they say.

What they're glossing over is the flavoring, which usually contains dozens of chemicals all on its own. That's where things like diacetyl come in. And that's what they don't like to talk about.

They also don't like to talk about the material of the atomizers and cartomizers, which are shown to break down, releasing heavy metal particles that not only are inhaled by the user, but also by people around them.

They don't like to talk about exploding mods.

They don't like to talk about the toxic chain reactions from increased heat that happen at high voltage.

There's a lot they don't like to talk about.

But they talk about just enough to make the average lay person feel safe.

Appealing to those who want to please themselves without thinking of the consequences. S&M, that is advertisement 101, and true for more than just Ecigs.

 

[SmokeAndMirrors]

Appealing to those who want to please themselves without thinking of the consequences. S&M, that is advertisement 101, and true for more than just Ecigs.

Yeah, obviously. The problem is that no one is making them conform to any sort of standard. Even cancer sticks have that. It's insane that e-cigarettes don't, when the OP is something people in the industry knew back in 2010.

 

[Kushinator]

Yup. I whistle-blew my way out of that industry because of this and other things... five years ago.

Hard as me and one of my coworkers tried, the word simply didn't get out. It's depressing that the industry has fought so hard and so effectively against regulation that most people are only learning about this now, when we knew this in 2010.

An industry that's supposed to be built on trying to help people, that doesn't give a crap about harming them instead. No better than cigarette companies, and in some ways, even more potentially dangerous. At least cigarette companies are controlled and don't have high school drop-outs mixing with dangerous chemicals in their basements, selling it as a "luxury" product to desperate recovering addicts.

Just shame on them.

Your post in this thread changed my view on vg/pg ecig revolution.

 

[SmokeAndMirrors]

Your post in this thread changed my view on vg/pg ecig revolution.

I'm so glad to hear that it's been useful to someone and helped them make more informed decisions about this. Seriously.

I feel like I owe the world that, with how many people I probably started on e-cigs. That is the biggest mistake I ever made in my life, my biggest regret.

 

[Kushinator]

I'm so glad to hear that it's been useful to someone and helped them make more informed decisions about this. Seriously.

I feel like I owe the world that, with how many people I probably started on e-cigs. That is the biggest mistake I ever made in my life, my biggest regret.

Don't get me wrong, i have used E-cigs after reading your post, but i was a bit more cautious. When the first green smoke came out, i was convinced it was the solution to tobacco related illness.

What is your take on e-cannabis oil devices from companies like Bhang and O-Pen?

 

[SmokeAndMirrors]

Don't get me wrong, i have used E-cigs after reading your post, but i was a bit more cautious. When the first green smoke came out, i was convinced it was the solution to tobacco related illness.

What is your take on e-cannabis oil devices from companies like Bhang and O-Pen?

They have basically all of the same concerns e-cigarettes do, since they rely on the same sorts of components and flavorings, and are subject to the same lack of regulation.

In addition to that, they have an extra risk if cannabis oil is used as the vaporizing substance. Oil coats the internal folliculs of the lungs, which can cause lipid pnemonia -- incredibly hard to treat. In fact, it was exactly this problem that caused one of the only proven direct deaths from e-cigarettes -- someone who was vaping oil (though I don't believe it was cannabis oil -- there are some people who misguidedly use tobacco flavoring oils as e-cig juice).

While people do smoke hash oil occasionally and get away with it, and might also do so with this device, inhaling oil is never a good idea using any method, whether it's traditional smoking or by using e-cigarettes.

It is possible e-cigarettes could be safe if the components and ingredients were regulated properly. There's nothing inherently wrong with inhaling PG vapor, nor with inhaling controlled doses of nicotine.

But inhaling oil will never be safe by any method.

 

[Oberon]

Thanks for the informative OP. I didn't know much of that info, but was suspicious of the whole thing, and assumed it was basically just smoking boiled air freshener and chemicals and stayed away from the stuff.

 

[Helix]

putting diacetyl in E-Cigs is just ignorant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacetyl#Worker_safety