Challenge.

[Iriemon]

How does this advance the debate?

You claimed that the penis is not made for the mouth; I have my suspicions that anyone who has actually experience fellatio (unless maybe your partner was chomping down for some reason) would hold such an opinion.

 

[jimmyjack]

You claimed that the penis is not made for the mouth; I have my suspicions that anyone who has actually experience fellatio (unless maybe your partner was chomping down for some reason) would hold such an opinion.

How does this advance the debate?

 

[wackestmc]

How does this advance the debate?

The better question is, are you capable of, planning on, or willing to advance the debate?

But I already know the answer to that question.

 

[Iriemon]

Originally Posted by Iriemon
You claimed that the penis is not made for the mouth; I have my suspicions that anyone who has actually experience fellatio (unless maybe your partner was chomping down for some reason) would hold such an opinion.

How does this advance the debate?

Goes to the basis of your knowledge for your opinion on the subject.

I would question the opinion of a man who has never had fellatio as to whether the penis action was made for a mouth and vice versa, based on lack of knowledge and experience in the subject matter.

In fact, I might even go so far as to suggest that a man who has never had fellatio could very well have serious sexual hang-ups and repressed desires coupled with anger over a society were he perceives most everyone else but him enjoying forbidden but tantalizing sexual activities.

But I speculate.

 

[ngdawg]

The penis is designed for the vagina and the vagina is designed for the penis, the penis is not designed for the mouth or anus, that is a biological fact that you cannot counter claim.

Biology has nothing to do with 'design'. However, my interior design teacher once commented that by and large, the best designers in the business are homosexual men.
How's THAT for biology, Jimmyjack style?:mrgreen:

 

[jimmyjack]

Biology has nothing to do with 'design'. However, my interior design teacher once commented that by and large, the best designers in the business are homosexual men.
How's THAT for biology, Jimmyjack style?:mrgreen:

Then you can prove it.

 

[ngdawg]

Just like you can prove lust turns a man gay? Or any other outlandish BS you toss out to justify your bigotries? You don't even know sarcasm when you see it...:roll:
Nothing in nature is 'designed', dude....

 

[jimmyjack]

Just like you can prove lust turns a man gay? Or any other outlandish BS you toss out to justify your bigotries? You don't even know sarcasm when you see it...:roll:
Nothing in nature is 'designed', dude....

Prove it, right now.

 

[Thorgasm]

Prove it, right now.

Were you designed to be president of the Macaroni Club?

 

[jimmyjack]

Were you designed to be president of the Macaroni Club?

That is not proof, try again.

 

[ngdawg]

First off, only 3 year olds make demands with no manners, so don't even bother.
Second, your constant avoidance is getting on my last nerve-you want proof, there's an entire section of evolution threads with more links than a necklace.
Do us ALL a favor and read.
Third, for someone that doesn't give ANY proof of anything they spew, you have a lot of nerve making such demands. Come back when you actually have something to say that's factual and when you've learned some manners.

 

[jimmyjack]

First off, only 3 year olds make demands with no manners, so don't even bother.

False!

Second, your constant avoidance is getting on my last nerve-you want proof, there's an entire section of evolution threads with more links than a necklace.

Evolution is a theory, not fact!

Do us ALL a favor and read.

Likewise.

Third, for someone that doesn't give ANY proof of anything they spew, you have a lot of nerve making such demands. Come back when you actually have something to say that's factual and when you've learned some manners.

I have backed up every single claim and premise I have ever stated.

 

[Thorgasm]

I have backed up every single claim and premise I have ever stated.

The Macaroni Club will back him up on this.

 

[ngdawg]

False!



Evolution is a theory, not fact!



Likewise.



I have backed up every single claim and premise I have ever stated.

False? So not only do you know nothing about human nature, you don't even know about 3 year olds....:roll:
'Design' is even MORE a theory and a very poor one at that.
I DO read-even YOUR drivel.
You have backed up every single claim??
"Men become homosexual when they lust"...uh, yea right....there's a fact with back-up.
You don't back up ANYTHING you claim with anything more than your own imagination and some agenda-riddled cheapshot sites. And given the 6 hour time difference, you stay up late then rush like hell back here from whatever place hired you and proceed with more of your insanity.
Every 'claim' you've made has been disproven. Using the bible is NOT backing your ridiculousness with anything real, neither is the creed of Jimmyjack.
Still waiting on your 'proof' for anything you say.....

 

[imprtnrd]

I agree with Korimyr 100% on this one

 

[jimmyjack]

False? So not only do you know nothing about human nature, you don't even know about 3 year olds....

False! It is not only three year olds that make demands with no manners.

'Design' is even MORE a theory and a very poor one at that.

False! We know design is a fact, people design cars, buildings, accessories, we just haven’t proved that the universe was designed. Evolution is a theory that fails beyond earth, it doesn’t explain, the other planets and the universe. The design theory is a far greater explanation.

I DO read-even YOUR drivel.

Wrong! If you would only read what I say, I wouldn’t need to repeat myself, over and over again.

You have backed up every single claim??
"Men become homosexual when they lust"...uh, yea right....there's a fact with back-up.
You don't back up ANYTHING you claim with anything more than your own imagination and some agenda-riddled cheapshot sites. And given the 6 hour time difference, you stay up late then rush like hell back here from whatever place hired you and proceed with more of your insanity.
Every 'claim' you've made has been disproven. Using the bible is NOT backing your ridiculousness with anything real, neither is the creed of Jimmyjack.
Still waiting on your 'proof' for anything you say.....

Incorrect, everything I have stated is verified with testimonies and facts, homosexuality is a consequence of lust as has been claimed my many people; it also is an explanation as to why people go from gay to straight and from straight to gay.

Game over you lose.

 

[Thorgasm]

Incorrect, everything I have stated is verified with testimonies and facts, homosexuality is a consequence of lust as has been claimed my many people; it also is an explanation as to why people go from gay to straight and from straight to gay.

Game over you lose.

Please tell me how I can be smart like you.

 

[JustineCredible]

Well, if everyone was homosexual the human race would become extinct in about 100 years. That's not necessarily a good thing.

For this to be the case, we must suspend all reality in that even if all people were to "become" homosexual then we must also assume all persons would remain so in their sexual activities as well.
The problem with your assumption is that homosexuals can't and don't have children.

Since I, myself, am proof of otherwise, your assumption is just that...an Azz-Umption.

We would also have to assume all homosexuals only ever have sexual realations with members of the same sex for them to remain homosexual. Obviously Kinseys table of degrees of homo/hetero/bi-sexuality would also have to disappear out of existance...

We would also have to assume all knowledge of invetro-fertilization and surrogacy would simply go *poof*!

Please, the human race is about as in danger of disappearing as President Bush is of actually being intelligent.
Ok, maybe a bad example...how about "...as likely as my becomming straight!"
Yeah, that fits.

 

[jimmyjack]

Please tell me how I can be smart like you.

Turn to Christ.

 

[JustineCredible]

The penis is designed for the vagina and the vagina is designed for the penis, the penis is not designed for the mouth or anus, that is a biological fact that you cannot counter claim.

Biological or physiological?

Just because it's primary function is to be inserted in the vagina during intercourse, which usually is a means of procreation, it does not mean that it is it's ONLY function.
Please, our mouths are not JUST to eat.
Our hands not JUST to put food to our mouths.
Our Brains are not JUST meant to keep us constantly searching for food.

But you want us to ASSUME the Penis is JUST to be put into a vagina. Come on, no fair, you already get two functions out it as it is....procreation and eviction of liquid waste!

So your assumption is not FACT it's just that...and assumption. It has to do with your religious views of procreation.

 

[JustineCredible]

You got a point there -- I'd think a policy of eliminating all women so that everyone was a male would not be a great policy either. I would personally be very much against it.

So, who's proposing we outlaw being straight or for straights to not be allowed to marry, have kids, maintain employment?

No one....

I personally don't have any problem with homosexuality and civil unions and equal rights. The original question posed was:

I challenge you to present any claims against homosexuality that are not religious or relative. (relative pertaining to diseases and whatnot since that's entirely based on sexual responsibility.)

One claim against homosexuality is that if everyone did it, the species would not reproduce. That is kind of a fact.

But not a claim against being homosexual. Just one against EVERYONE "becomming" homosexual. Not against those who already are, and the ones yet to be born.

 

[JustineCredible]

False! It is not only three year olds that make demands with no manners.



False! We know design is a fact, people design cars, buildings, accessories, we just haven’t proved that the universe was designed. Evolution is a theory that fails beyond earth, it doesn’t explain, the other planets and the universe. The design theory is a far greater explanation.

Show me your so called "proof" of intelligent design as far as creation of the world. I've yet to see ANY from ANYONE...it's all hearsay and "oh it's in the Bible so it has to be true..." that's what's call conjecture and heresay..not fact.

Wrong! If you would only read what I say, I wouldn’t need to repeat myself, over and over again.

Just because you say it and we read it does not automatically mean that what you say actually makes any sence. To me it simply comes across as the ravings of a lunatic. To someone else, something different.

Incorrect, everything I have stated is verified with testimonies

By whom?

and facts,

Substanciated by what?

homosexuality is a consequence of lust as has been claimed my many people;

Please name your sources.

it also is an explanation as to why people go from gay to straight and from straight to gay.

Hmmm...really? So, you can prove this with substanciated and accredited, peer reviewed studies?

Please, we're all waiting with baited breath...:roll:

Game over you lose.[/QUOTE]

 

[Iriemon]

But not a claim against being homosexual. Just one against EVERYONE "becomming" homosexual. Not against those who already are, and the ones yet to be born.

I hadn't been aware that condition was a part of the initial query.

 

[jimmyjack]

Biological or physiological?

Both.

Just because it's primary function is to be inserted in the vagina during intercourse, which usually is a means of procreation, it does not mean that it is it's ONLY function.

Incorrect, its primary function is to facilitate the transit of waste.

Please, our mouths are not JUST to eat.

I never said they where.

Our hands not JUST to put food to our mouths.

I never said they where.

Our Brains are not JUST meant to keep us constantly searching for food.

I never said they where.

But you want us to ASSUME the Penis is JUST to be put into a vagina.

No, I want you to know, it is designed for the vagina.

Come on, no fair, you already get two functions out it as it is....procreation and eviction of liquid waste!

Well done.

So your assumption is not FACT it's just that...and assumption. It has to do with your religious views of procreation.

You only assume the penis is for the vagina?

 

[Thorgasm]

Turn to Christ.

I like shellfish and have to work on the sabbath though. BTW, What was Christ's penis designed for?