CDC recent data: lots of good information

[digitusmedius]

None of these accusations are facts. You’re making your biased interpretation on the hypothetical that this whole huge country would have avoided thousands of deaths if Trump had done X, Y and Z. Human beings are not monkeys and they don’t follow everything the alpha male does. Dems would have voters believe Obama was the bestest Prez ever, but many people didn’t follow his examples because they didn’t agree with him. You’re just cherry-picking various wonky Trump statements and not examining the whole record.

You people are well-established fact deniers. You have to be to keep supporting such a disgusting person.

 

[digitusmedius]

Biden’s just blowing smoke to rewrite history.

Since Trump, unlike Obama and Biden, tried to hold China to international standards, what would he stand to gain by colluding with them? And what form would this dreamed-up collusion take, given that he has consistently criticized the country aside from those piddling diplomatic tossoffs?

Jesus Effin'Christ, you people are both literally and figuratively unbelievable. You see the truth of his incompetence and lying coming from Dirtbag himself and Biden predicting exactly how Dirtbag was going to blow it if a pandemic were to occur months before it did and still you don't just keep lying for him but praise him. That's what the real Trump Derangement Syndrome is not to mention how it's absolute proof you're a cult.

 

[Moderate Right]

Possibly you should actually take the time required to actually read the actual posts you are "responding" to rather than simply mindlessly droning on with the same mantra.

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Now I do realize that some people consider that it is much more important to blame the _[fill in the blank]_ than it is to actually address the actual problem (mainly because actually addressing the actual problem will not necessarily mean that "My Guys" will not win the next election but that making sure that all of the blame falls on "Their Guys" will likely help win the next election), but I don't share that attitude the way that you seem to.

Will you quit posting your damn cherry picked charts! I already know you lefties are very skilled at cherry picking the facts you want to cherry pick. You're wasting your time if you think I am looking at your cherry picked facts. I dismiss your bias. Let me know when you want to have an honest conversation rather than a biased one.

 

[Bullseye]

Yep, when you combine actual statements with the actual numbers at the times the statements were made, you invariably get total lies like these:

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The definition of "wasted bandwidth" and cow waste as well.

 

[Ouroboros]

It’s not collusion per se so much as it was in TRump’s interest to play down the virus to save his trade deal, which failed anyway.

All of this country’s problems with the virus are entirely due to Trump’s downplaying it. Initially he wanted to save the trade deal. Then it was the stock market. Then for a week he took it seriously (his poll numbers even started to edge up), and then we got treated to bleach injections, wacky miracle cures and finally back to it’s a big hoax.

2 things are *objectively true*:

-This country is in *so* much worse shape than we should be with covid entirely due to Trump’s actions.

-Joe Biden, twice, said we aren’t prepared and TRump was gonna botch this.


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At what point did Trump take over all health initiatives in all 50 states? Oh, that's right, never.

Your partisan blather depends on one rationale: that if only Trump had been SERIOUS, in whatever way you choose to define that, everyone would have fallen into line and we would have enjoyed both near-zero deaths and no distressed economy. But unless he also had sole power over all health initiatives in all 50 states, then leading by example doesn't count for diddly.

Look how little the Dems' emphasis on heavy masking and hunkering down meant to Progressive protesters. When they wanted to protest and/or riot, they just did it, no matter what either Trump or Pelosi said about forbearance and being considerate of others.

You're just harping on "leading by example" because you think it makes Trump look bad. You don't care about justice, only buttressing the absurd claims by Biden and others that try to lay all the deaths at Trump's door, when they really belong at the door of Chairman Xi.

 

[Ouroboros]

Jesus Effin'Christ, you people are both literally and figuratively unbelievable. You see the truth of his incompetence and lying coming from Dirtbag himself and Biden predicting exactly how Dirtbag was going to blow it if a pandemic were to occur months before it did and still you don't just keep lying for him but praise him. That's what the real Trump Derangement Syndrome is not to mention how it's absolute proof you're a cult.

Biden Derangement Syndrome: the inability to notice dozens of Biden idiot statements-- "xenophobia," "you ain't black"-- in order to keep believing he's some sort of sagacious statesman.

 

[digitusmedius]

Biden Derangement Syndrome: the inability to notice dozens of Biden idiot statements-- "xenophobia," "you ain't black"-- in order to keep believing he's some sort of sagacious statesman.

Keep on grasping at those straws.

 

[digitusmedius]

The definition of "wasted bandwidth" and cow waste as well.

I like how you included the devastating LP video with you comment. It deserves repeating. So, thanks.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

At what point did Trump take over all health initiatives in all 50 states? Oh, that's right, never.

Your partisan blather depends on one rationale: that if only Trump had been SERIOUS, in whatever way you choose to define that, everyone would have fallen into line and we would have enjoyed both near-zero deaths and no distressed economy. But unless he also had sole power over all health initiatives in all 50 states, then leading by example doesn't count for diddly.

Look how little the Dems' emphasis on heavy masking and hunkering down meant to Progressive protesters. When they wanted to protest and/or riot, they just did it, no matter what either Trump or Pelosi said about forbearance and being considerate of others.

You're just harping on "leading by example" because you think it makes Trump look bad. You don't care about justice, only buttressing the absurd claims by Biden and others that try to lay all the deaths at Trump's door, when they really belong at the door of Chairman Xi.

How come the WH has a testing regime that Trump insists is overrated for everyone else?


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[Ouroboros]

Keep on grasping at those straws.

That's your job.

 

[Ouroboros]

How come the WH has a testing regime that Trump insists is overrated for everyone else?


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If you got a link, knock yourself out.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

If you got a link, knock yourself out.

A link to what? The White House uses a strict testing regime to keep Trump healthy. It’s what allows him to meet with people without a mask and pretend he doesn’t need one.

So? Why is that? Why does the WH have a strict testing regime?


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[Ouroboros]

A link to what? The White House uses a strict testing regime to keep Trump healthy. It’s what allows him to meet with people without a mask and pretend he doesn’t need one.

So? Why
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Who’s the source for the allegation of your previous post? Your syntax was vague, but you seemed to be claiming that WH was keeping some form of testing from average citizens.

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[Aunt Antifa]

Who’s the source for the allegation of your previous post? Your syntax was vague, but you seemed to be claiming that WH was keeping some form of testing from average citizens.

Who’s r

My syntax was fine, you're just changing the ask from "wha testing at the WH?" to "Who declared Americans can't have this testing?" because you realized your original tact was too stupid even for a Trump argument.



Miss me with that weak ass ****. Why does Trump have access to testing that he insists is overrated and we don't need?

If you can't answer 7 months into the pandemic, it's because you don't wanna.

 

[Ouroboros]

My syntax was fine, you're just changing the ask from "wha testing at the WH?" to "Who declared Americans can't have this testing?" because you realized your original tact was too stupid even for a Trump argument.



Miss me with that weak ass ****. Why does Trump have access to testing that he insists is overrated and we don't need?

If you can't answer 7 months into the pandemic, it's because you don't wanna.

Both your syntax and reasoning are still flawed, but now I understand that it’s because in your head you’re referencing something Trump said or something you think Trump said. I’m not going to play guessing games; if you have a source for whatever bee is in your bonnet, share with the class. You probably won’t impress me but maybe you’ll earn some accolades from the choir if you do what Mad Libs so rarely do: substantiate.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Both your syntax and reasoning are still flawed, but now I understand that it’s because in your head you’re referencing something Trump said or something you think Trump said. I’m not going to play guessing games; if you have a source for whatever bee is in your bonnet, share with the class. You probably won’t impress me but maybe you’ll earn some accolades from the choir if you do what Mad Libs so rarely do: substantiate.

Okay, you don’t wanna.


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[Ouroboros]

Okay, you don’t wanna.


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I don’t wanna accept your word for anything. What’s so hard about citing your sources?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Will you quit posting your damn cherry picked charts! I already know you lefties are very skilled at cherry picking the facts you want to cherry pick. You're wasting your time if you think I am looking at your cherry picked facts. I dismiss your bias. Let me know when you want to have an honest conversation rather than a biased one.

Yes, I agree that I was "cherry picking" by including data from other countries when evrewunknoz (provided that they are a patriotic, right-thinking, patriotic, hard working, patriotic, honest, patriotic, real, patriotic, true, patriotic, conservative, patriotic, Christian, patriotic, White, patriotic, American, patriotic, patriot) that only

AmericanData​

is worth anything.

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because the governments and media of every other country in the world are all parts of the wacko, loony, crazy, left-wing, liberal, socialist, pinko, commies who are a part of the huge, vast, enormous, secret, hidden, covert, conspiratorial plot to force a coup against DONALD JOHN TRUMP whom God guided Americans into choosing as THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA so that THE UNITED! STATES OF AMERICA! could fulfill its God Mandated role as the Saviour of Mankind and who want to impose Sherry Law (with its mandatory same-sex, inter-racial, marriages and forced abortions of all white, male, pre-born, children AND compulsory autism causing vaccinations) on America so that all the Cheerleaders would have to wear Burke Hats and football would be banned because it uses pig skin.

 

[pamak]

Will you quit posting your damn cherry picked charts! I already know you lefties are very skilled at cherry picking the facts you want to cherry pick. You're wasting your time if you think I am looking at your cherry picked facts. I dismiss your bias. Let me know when you want to have an honest conversation rather than a biased one.

So, without looking at his charts, you have arrived at conclusions about their bias.

Typical "moderate" and unbiased attitude by a person who wants to have a honest conversation :roll:.

If you want to have a honesst conversation, start by explaining the particular objections you have regarding what the other person brings to the discussion table instead of making claims about "cherry picking" the charts bias without providing an explanation for why such bias exists and by providing the supposedly ommited information which in your opinion should have been included in the charts. And you should also explain why such ommited information presents a more balanced picture than the one presented in his charts.

 

[pamak]

Both your syntax and reasoning are still flawed, but now I understand that it’s because in your head you’re referencing something Trump said or something you think Trump said. I’m not going to play guessing games; if you have a source for whatever bee is in your bonnet, share with the class. You probably won’t impress me but maybe you’ll earn some accolades from the choir if you do what Mad Libs so rarely do: substantiate.

I understood whar he said ad his syntax was not a problem. People typing on smartphones often make mistakes but most people can overcome such obstacles. Meanwhile, we have clear evidence that Trump is among the most tested people in the country. That was the excuse his people gave for not having Trump wear a mask (which was stupid excuse because often a leader does things to inspire others to follow hie exampe)

White House says Trump gets tested ‘multiple times a day’ for coronavirus - POLITICO



07/21/2020

White House says Trump gets tested ‘multiple times a day’ for coronavirus
“The president is the most tested man in America,” press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told reporters.

How is that for a quote?

Meanwhile just a month before...

Trump administration defends defunding COVID testing in Texas, four other states - Reuters



JUNE 24, 2020


Trump administration defends defunding COVID testing in Texas, four other states

(Reuters) - The Trump administration said on Wednesday that it would no longer directly fund 13 of its original coronavirus testing sites in five states, saying states were allocated money for testing by the federal government last month.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

So, without looking at his charts, you have arrived at conclusions about their bias.

Typical "moderate" and unbiased attitude by a person who wants to have a honest conversation :roll:.

If you want to have a honesst conversation, start by explaining the particular objections you have regarding what the other person brings to the discussion table instead of making claims about "cherry picking" the charts bias without providing an explanation for why such bias exists and by providing the supposedly ommited information which in your opinion should have been included in the charts. And you should also explain why such ommited information presents a more balanced picture than the one presented in his charts.

Good HEAVENS - You mean you don't think that inchoate whining is a legitimate Internet debate tactic?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I understood whar he said ad his syntax was not a problem. People typing on smartphones often make mistakes but most people can overcome such obstacles. Meanwhile, we have clear evidence that Trump is among the most tested people in the country. That was the excuse his people gave for not having Trump wear a mask (which was stupid excuse because often a leader does things to inspire others to follow hie exampe)

White House says Trump gets tested ‘multiple times a day’ for coronavirus - POLITICO



07/21/2020

White House says Trump gets tested ‘multiple times a day’ for coronavirus
“The president is the most tested man in America,” press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told reporters.

How is that for a quote?

Meanwhile just a month before...

Trump administration defends defunding COVID testing in Texas, four other states - Reuters



JUNE 24, 2020


Trump administration defends defunding COVID testing in Texas, four other states

(Reuters) - The Trump administration said on Wednesday that it would no longer directly fund 13 of its original coronavirus testing sites in five states, saying states were allocated money for testing by the federal government last month.

What you have to remember is that the rationale for Mr. Trump being tested so frequently (and for anyone who is going to come into contact with him being tested) is

But, but - but ... That's DIFFERENT!!!
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and that's all you need to know.

 

[Moderate Right]

So, without looking at his charts, you have arrived at conclusions about their bias.

Typical "moderate" and unbiased attitude by a person who wants to have a honest conversation :roll:.

If you want to have a honesst conversation, start by explaining the particular objections you have regarding what the other person brings to the discussion table instead of making claims about "cherry picking" the charts bias without providing an explanation for why such bias exists and by providing the supposedly ommited information which in your opinion should have been included in the charts. And you should also explain why such ommited information presents a more balanced picture than the one presented in his charts.

I've already seen their cherry picked charts over and over and over and over again. Somehow they think the more times they post their cherry picked charts the more credibility they have.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I've already seen their cherry picked charts over and over and over and over again. Somehow they think the more times they post their cherry picked charts the more credibility they have.

Did you know that posting "Today's Data" is NOT the same thing as posting the same data over and over?

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However I do thank you for your acknowledgement of my prescience that allowed me to "cherry pick" data fields back as far as 13 MAY 20 which would "allow me to prove" whatever it is that I had decided I would "prove" today.

 

[pamak]

I've already seen their cherry picked charts over and over and over and over again. Somehow they think the more times they post their cherry picked charts the more credibility they have.

So, you assume that he posts the same charts you have already seen. Anyway, the credibility of his or any other's charts is enhanced by the conservatives' inability to actually address them. Dismissing any chart by making a claim that it cherry picks the data without explaining how and without showing which omitting data give a better picture of reality does not refute any chart. And I assume when a chart is not refuted, it gives an incentive to keep using it to remind the other side that the available evidence cannot be refuted.