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Something about the idea of carrying firearms for personal protection has always puzzled me.
Many people argue that carrying firearms in public, either concealed or openly, will make you safer. I'm not sure I understand how this works.
A firearm can be a very effective way of deterring someone from committing a crime against you. This is true but like any effective tool, it's only effective if you can get to it when you need it.
In a situation where you are walking down the street and confronted by someone who pulls out a gun and demands your walled, where is the opportunity to employ your firearm presented? You've been surprised, your firearm is holstered, his is not. You could try to be sneaky and pull it out, but your chances of getting yourself shot are probably better than you pulling a John Wayne.
I've heard the argument that firearms serve as a visual deterrent. Well...ok, but again, in an ambush situation you are no longer able to follow through on your threat. This is doubly nonsensical if you consider a concealed weapon; there is no visual display of you being armed to inform potential criminals that you are armed and can put up a potentially lethal fight.
Even in a situation where your attacker is armed with a knife, a gun may not save your life. Police departments sometimes operate on what's known as the "21 foot rule", 21 feet being the "average" distance a person with a knife can travel before a person with a holstered weapon can draw and fire two rounds at the target's center of mass. (On a side note, the "21" is disputed and calculated to more like 30 feet) So in close quarters, you may be able to get your weapon out but not before being stabbed at least once.
All these situations are made much more complicated if your attacker isnt working alone.
Some have suggested that armed citizens may help resolve situations such as armed robbery or other similar crimes. However this presents more problems as you are firing in an area with innocent people and unless you can quickly bring the incident to a close, you will create a firefight situation where innocent people and law enforcement are caught in a crossfire. That is, if you arent killed yourself. Additionally, law enforcement may not recognize you as a civilian trying to defend yourself in the heat of the moment and accidentally fire on you.
In such cases, escalating the situation has made it far more dangerous than if you had simply kept your head down and not made problems. I know that's not as Hollywood as we would like but statistically speaking, your chances of surviving an armed robbery are pretty good.
( Federal Bureau of Investigation - Press Room - Headline Archives Acts of violence: Were committed in 329, or 4.5%, of the 7,272 violations. Of the 13 total deaths, 10 were the perpetrators.)
Further problems develop when the argument is made that armed citizens can help defuse situations such as Virginia Tech or other similar public rampages. The same problems come into play here as in an armed robbery scenario; you are potentially creating a firefight situation where you are likely to get killed on top of creating problems for law enforcement.
On top of all this, while some form of training is often required to receive a carry permit for firearms, this training often is not repeated for some time or lacks critical components such as maintaining fire discipline in a high-stress situation. The training falls short of the expected environment the weapon will be used in. In fairness this does vary from program to program.
With all this in mind, how is carrying guns around supposed to help protect people?
Many people argue that carrying firearms in public, either concealed or openly, will make you safer. I'm not sure I understand how this works.
A firearm can be a very effective way of deterring someone from committing a crime against you. This is true but like any effective tool, it's only effective if you can get to it when you need it.
I grew up in a family that hunted. I grew up with stories of my grandfathers and great-grantfathers hunting. I knew, from an early age, firearms were simply tools. I still hunt. Time out hunting still has a way of putting things in perspective for me.
I, too, am often as not off-put by guys who think they're rambo. I feel the same way about people who somehow think firearms are objects of evil. I have no idea if I'm capable of shooting someone. I'm scared to death of shooting someone under less than ideal conditions. However, my small southern town has experienced a rise of latino gangs. I'm going to carry. That's all there is to it.
I find it foolish to choose to not defend yourself & leave your fate to thugs....:doh
Given the topic & content, I have to question your moniker...
It definitely clashes with what you are preaching...
I'm carrying. I'm just not making outlandish claims concerning my gunfighting ability in light of the fact I have yet to shoot anybody. :wink2:
From The Armed Citizen Archive
February 1969: In Los Angeles, hotel manager William A. Boothby came to his night clerk's call when an unkempt man sought to rent a room and became abusive over the price. As Boothby came to the desk, the stranger pulled a gun on the pair, announcing a stick up, and herded them into the office. Boothby slammed the door shut on the gunman's face and the bandit fired through the door, wounding the clerk in the thigh. Manager Boothby grabbed a rifle, flung open the door, and killed the gunman with 5 shots. (Los Angeles Herald and Express)
Or they might ensure that either they shoot first or are the first one to have the gun out. You ensure that your criminals are arming themselves.10 of the 13 deaths were perps...
I like those odds.....
Personally, I'd rather go down fighting that bow my head & be 'owned' by a thug.......
A criminal will think twice if there is a possibility that you might be armed, & move on to a softer target, that sounds like you....
Or you think to yourself that you either have to shoot first or get your gun out first, or work with someone else who is also armed.The premise that someone could very well be carrying is the deterrent for criminals. If I am a criminal who wants to steal from you, I am much less likely to try it knowing that you may be armed. If I know that you very likely are not armed, the odds that I can be successful increase.
Or they might ensure that either they shoot first or are the first one to have the gun out. You ensure that your criminals are arming themselves.
I prefer to deal with the situation by avoiding potential problem areas, traveling in groups, not carrying obviously valuable things with me, and a bare minimum knowledge of martial arts. I've been in several confrontations and I cant honestly say they would have ended any better had I been armed with a gun. I carry a weapon around with me at all (possible) times for religious reasons, but I dont see that a gun makes me any safer.
Or you think to yourself that you either have to shoot first or get your gun out first, or work with someone else who is also armed.
Care to elaborate or are we the "post and run" type of person?In paragraph one, your logic is flawed, in paragraph two, a sheeplike mentality is displayed......
I'm not talking about weapons in general, I'm talking about firearms specifically.Every time I have brandished a weapon, it has been successful in protecting me......:yes:
B]QUOTE=Hoplite;1058558052]Care to elaborate or are we the "post and run" type of person?[/
So am I....I'm not talking about weapons in general, I'm talking about firearms specifically.
And not actually respond to anything important, I see.
I generally don't hang around to long & wait & see if someone will answer, but I will come back......
Originally Posted by Hoplite
Or they might ensure that either they shoot first or are the first one to have the gun out.
You ensure that your criminals are arming themselves
And not actually respond to anything important, I see.
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