Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis [W:349]

Jerry · Nov 27, 2014

lizzie said:
No, what I read was that they initiated trying to keep him from moving his vehicle, and after that, was when he hit someone.

What you read was wrong. He slowly drove into the crowed and stopped when he realized someone got caught underneath the front bumper. He stopped before running the person over. That person got up and walked away. The crowd then swarmed his car. He sat still for a minute before trying to move again. When he did move forward another person in front of the car was knocked down and the driver stopped again. That person was not run over, either. That person got up and walked away. The crowed swarmed the car again and the car drove away before being surrounded again.

No one was run over.

No one was even injured.

Jerry · Nov 27, 2014

sangha said:
Here's an interesting little bit about Mr Rice, the driver of the car

I trust you're about to post the historys of each protester now....

haymarket · Nov 27, 2014

Jerry said:
Sure. They have their protest in an empty parking lot.

....not in the middle of an active intersection.

And that would be your rule for ALL protests or demonstrations regardless of the political affiliation or ideology or purpose of the protest group?

rabbitcaebannog · Nov 27, 2014

Jerry said:
Who was run over?

Oh that's right, no one.

He ran directly into a crowd of people, they probably ended up on his hood because he plowed through them. People weren't even anger until the ass ran into them.

rabbitcaebannog · Nov 27, 2014

Jerry said:
Then I trust we can see all of them in court for performing an illegal citizen's arrest.

Anyway standing in front of a car which just hit a crowed is not wise at all. The best way to disable the vehicle is to plug up the exhaust; the engine will stall and won't restart until cleared. At least slash the tires so that car can't travel far. Take one of those protest pickets and jam it in the radiator causing the engine to overheat and, depending on the year of the car, shut the car down automatically.

If you stand in front of the car you will just get hit, as is what happened.

That's asinine! Just the other day a crowd of people were leaving a football game at WPI. Crowds of people were crossing the street to leave. The traffic waited until the road was cleared even though it wasn't right for them to clog the street. No ass decided to put his hazards on and plow through the people. Are people that crazy that it's worth running some people down because it's an inconvenience? If so, I give up on mankind.

rocket88 · Nov 27, 2014

Napoleon said:
Its not about partisanship so much as it is about pointing out hypocrisy. In this case I think its clear that the supposedly justice-seeking mob featured in that video would have dragged that driver out of his car and torn him to pieces in the middle of the street had they succeeded in busting out his windshield. What these people really want is not something they are entitled to and that something is revenge for the wrongs they think have been done to them.

How was it clear they would have done that? I didn't see that at all.

Gill · Nov 27, 2014

haymarket said:
And that would be your rule for ALL protests or demonstrations regardless of the political affiliation or ideology or purpose of the protest group?

It's the rule at the Democrat and Republican national conventions.

haymarket · Nov 27, 2014

Gill said:
It's the rule at the Democrat and Republican national conventions.

and do you support that?

Aunt Spiker · Nov 27, 2014

sangha said:
In the the 2nd part of the video, starting at 0:51 you can see an overhead shot of what happened. The car was not being accosted as it pulled out from behind anothe car and approached the protesters. Then he starts plowing into the crowd, knocking some people over and almost running over that kids legs just before it stops. Then, and only then, do protesters start attacking him, so he takes off knocking some other people over.

The driver should be charged with vehicular assault and thrown in jail

They must have updated the video - and then removed it - because now it's not there at all.

sangha · Nov 27, 2014

Aunt Spiker said:
They must have updated the video

I was wondering about that. I suspected that was the case because so many people were posting as if that part weren't there (including you, who I think of as being very reasonable)

- and then removed it - because now it's not there at all.

Removed it? Mother****ers!!

Jerry · Nov 27, 2014

rabbitcaebannog said:
He ran directly into a crowd of people, they probably ended up on his hood because he plowed through them. People weren't even anger until the ass ran into them.

Someone being ran over isn't on the hood.

buck · Nov 27, 2014

rocket88 said:
How was it clear they would have done that? I didn't see that at all.

People swarming and beating on a car and windows like a zombie horde... Yes, I'm sure like most violently acting mobs, they just wanted to talk.

Jerry · Nov 27, 2014

Aunt Spiker said:
They must have updated the video - and then removed it - because now it's not there at all.

sangha said:
I was wondering about that. I suspected that was the case because so many people were posting as if that part weren't there (including you, who I think of as being very reasonable)

Removed it? Mother****ers!!

Once on the internet, always on the internet:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Car...g+Ferguson+rally+in+south+Minneapolis&tbm=vid

jet57 · Nov 27, 2014

Napoleon said:
Video footage of the incident in the link. Cant say I blame the driver for fleeing the mob.

Gotta blame the driver though for being completely stupid, by not turning around to go another way.

apdst · Nov 27, 2014

sangha said:
In the the 2nd part of the video, starting at 0:51 you can see an overhead shot of what happened. The car was not being accosted as it pulled out from behind anothe car and approached the protesters. Then he starts plowing into the crowd, knocking some people over and almost running over that kids legs just before it stops. Then, and only then, do protesters start attacking him, so he takes off knocking some other people over.

The driver should be charged with vehicular assault and thrown in jail

What are the protestors going to be charged with?

DA60 · Nov 27, 2014

Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis

The irony that had this car actually been equipped with a plow (and been lowered), that woman might have been unhurt.

apdst · Nov 27, 2014

rabbitcaebannog said:
He ran directly into a crowd of people, they probably ended up on his hood because he plowed through them. People weren't even anger until the ass ran into them.

They should have gotten their asses out of the road.

apdst · Nov 27, 2014

rocket88 said:
How was it clear they would have done that? I didn't see that at all.

This guy wishes he would have kept driving.

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Bodi · Nov 27, 2014

rabbitcaebannog said:
In video from KSTP’s Chopper 5, the involved vehicle goes around another stopped car and into the crowd as other vehicles go around the crowd. Other cars were avoiding the crowd but this asswipe decided he was going to go right into the crowd.

So what? He didn't hit anybody initially. He is in a car. He is in the road. They are milling about trying to block traffic. He SLOWLY tried to move through and then they decided to attack him. Why you would defend these scum bags is beyond me... but maybe you are somebody who would protest in the street and condone attacking innocent people as they tried to go about their day. *shrugs*

Bodi · Nov 27, 2014

apdst said:
They should have gotten their asses out of the road.

She hasn't the faintest clue as to what happened and as such she is making herself look REALLY foolish...

Bodi · Nov 27, 2014

DA60 said:
Car plows through protesters during Ferguson rally in south Minneapolis

The irony that had this car actually been equipped with a plow (and been lowered), that woman might have been unhurt.

If he plowed through he would have seriously ****ed up twenty or thirty people, if not killing a few to boot... plows through :lol:

These drama queens make me laugh...

Bodi · Nov 27, 2014

rocket88 said:
The texting and driving was just a crack anyway. I'm not going to get in a pissing match about who was justifiably afraid. For everyone who said the guy that hit someone was justfiably afraid because this other guy got hit, you could say that those protesters were justifiably afraid of getting run over.

Be it a legacy of racism or whatever, these protests show that something is badly broken in our society. People who usually will go on about tyranny and not trusting the government are all about trusting the government here, and vice versa. Sorry but if you have a problem with heavy handed government tyranny, you should have a problem with what happened in Ferguson. You should have a problem with using the military as a police force.

It's not about race as much as it's about the relationship between the government and the governed. This, the Tea Party and OWS are all about that. I know that many here are too partisan to see that, but it is true.

I have a problem with "how" the government handled Ferguson not that they "needed to try" to handle the situation.

Bodi · Nov 27, 2014

joko104 said:
My initial view was there is nothing wrong with what the driver did, but I'm not so sure after watching in many times.

If you are in your car and a bunch of people are standing in the street for whatever reason and won't move, can you decide to just push thru them with your car? In my opinion no - no different than if people are annoying standing in a doorway talking (not rare) I can't just forcibly shove them out of the way.

The car was attacked ONLY have a teenage girl's leg was trapped under the car - for which if the car went forward further she could have been seriously hurt.

They driver changed lanes to the right to the slowly push thru the crowd, rather than to the left where a lane was open. The driver also could have simply backed up.

That was not a riot, it was a protest. My inclination now is against the driver. If 20 people are standing in front your car - whether it be in a St Patrick's street party, impromptu football game win, or a protest, I don't think you can just put it in gear and drive - since you could knock people into other people not even knowing what's happened - which is what happened.

I think the driver was likely in the wrong, unless the driver was being threatened BEFORE he started to drive into people. On the driver's behalf, he did stop when it appears he realized someone was knocked down and under his car. When she was clear, he then slowly drove on with the car under attack. I'm ok with that.

What I'm not ok is he deciding to push thru a group of people with his car when the people were making no threats - or least none I saw. Even then, he should have backed up.

Protests are very American. That was a protest, not a riot.

What if he needed to make a right hand turn there and thought he could slowly just go through and they would part with no hassle? I have moved through a crowd like that before... people just moved. No big deal. I went through at slowly...

Bodi · Nov 27, 2014

sangha said:
The video shows you are wrong. It shows that cars were able to avoid the crowd by turning left. Instead of waiting, he passes the car in front of him on the right (it's illegal to pass on the right) and plows into the crowd knocking people over and nearly running over someone's legs. Then, and only then does the crowd hit and surround his car. Before that, no one was even near his car.

No it does not. It shows he wanted to go through or turn right. He pulls up and gets close probably expecting them to part. They do not and kinda converge on his car probably because he is still rolling and possibly even bumping those that are very close. He is NOT plowing into anybody. At that point we have zero idea what happened AT the car. Did somebody throw something at his car? Was his window down as it is hard to tell. He then accelerates running into people and the attack is on.

Bodi · Nov 27, 2014

rabbitcaebannog said:
That's asinine! Just the other day a crowd of people were leaving a football game at WPI. Crowds of people were crossing the street to leave. The traffic waited until the road was cleared even though it wasn't right for them to clog the street. No ass decided to put his hazards on and plow through the people. Are people that crazy that it's worth running some people down because it's an inconvenience? If so, I give up on mankind.

A crowd leaving a stadium that was "crossing the street to leave" is analogous to a protest crowd taking over an intersection and "not leaving"? Seriously? That is how your logic works?

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