Canada better than US?

[gbg3]

I was honestly shocked when i saw San Francisco or Los Angeles.

SF used to be one of my favorite cities to visit and now you couldn't pay me to go anywhere near it. It's awful!

 

[swing_voter]

SF used to be one of my favorite cities to visit and now you couldn't pay me to go anywhere near it. It's awful!

Rostocker is a paid Russian shill who works for Putin.

Don't believe me? Just look at his posting history.



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[gbg3]

New York is a shithole too. Its a general problem in your cities.

Yep, and do you see a theme and commonality about the cities you are bringing up? Seattle and Portland are two previously beautiful and wonderful cities in the same boat.

 

[dave8383]

New York is a shithole .......................

New York is the capital of the world.

 

[MAGAnificent]

So is it your assertion that any American, insured or not, can receive non emergent care out side of an ER without paying, which is what I asked you, or is "billed based on the ability to pay" limited to emergent care?


Go back and read what I posted. I said " My understanding is that medicaid and basic medicare is limited to hospital care" . I understand that you can pay more for coverage beyind basic but I said basic.

Your understanding is wrong. Unless you are referring to Medicare part A, which is for in patient hospital care, Medicare is not limited to hospital care. That's why I suggested you do a bit of google research. Part B for basic healthcare and is not limited to hospital care. Yes....you can add Part C which is beyond basic and part D for prescription coverage.

 

[MAGAnificent]

We've got some crazy (and crazed) covid rules and enforcements in some US states going on at present, but Canada and the UK have even weirder control sh## going on about covid right now. I've seen the same or similar videos!

Yep. The pandemic is showing what "little nazis" some of the state politicians and local can be.

 

[dave8383]

Yes we do have that. Plus stuff that you dont have, like the Wadden Sea. China has enormous nature like that as well. Pakistan and India too. Chile and Bolivia also have all that.

The EU covers Europe, which is one of most diverse and nature rich continents.

You live in a postage stamp that is the least memorable european country.

 

[gbg3]

What a joke
Yes you can walk into emergency where they will set a broken bone but they wont try and cure your cancer or really help with any other long term health care problems like knee replacement surgery etc...

Don't get me started on wait times for knee replacements, hip replacements, back surgeries and MRIs in Canada. Luckily, they have the U.S. close by when the pain gets too bad - assuming they have the money.

 

[gbg3]

Rostocker is a paid Russian shill who works for Putin.

Don't believe me? Just look at his posting history.



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I don't know the specifics of the poster but SF is a dreadful place these days. It's hard to disagree with that point.

 

[Callen]

I just watched a video talking about something in Canada called a quarantine hotel which is a fancy word for prison. And I also watched a video where a couple tyre employees attacked a man subdued him handcuffed him which in America would be kidnapping and assault.

We don't have covid prisons in the US so I would say for that alone were better.

I am perfectly OK with this. It applies to non essential international travel without a Covid test result before departure and is known in advance. You must quarantine in a designated hotel for 72 hours while you are tested. Maybe if the EU would allow the export of the vaccines we have contracted and paid for we wouldnt have to do this.

 

[Callen]

Unless you are referring to Medicare part A, which is for in patient hospital care

Yes that is what I term basic Medicare.

 

[gbg3]

well we have to give you SOMETHING, knowing how ANY criticism touches off an avalanche of insecurity and the need to lash out at the criticism.
you see, we Canadians are a kind-hearted bunch, so we always like our southern brethren to not feel too bad about their state of affairs.

That "kind-hearted" narrative - social media becoming prominent has demonstrated that to be quite the myth about Canadians.

 

[Quag]

Don't get me started on wait times for knee replacements, hip replacements, back surgeries and MRIs in Canada. Luckily, they have the U.S. close by when the pain gets too bad - assuming they have the money.

You can actually go private and pay for a lot of those in Canada as well.

 

[gbg3]

I know I know, reading and learning not your strong suit. so of course my post didn't get anywhere WITH YOU.

Oops, you're getting fired up, losing that so called Canadian sense of humor and going for attempted personal attacks now. How Canadian of you.

 

[Grand Mal]

Bullshit.

No we don't. We have a half a million deaths somewhat attributed to covid. Still better than covid prisons and secret police that drag you off to them.

 

[Grand Mal]

Don't get me started on wait times for knee replacements, hip replacements, back surgeries and MRIs in Canada. Luckily, they have the U.S. close by when the pain gets too bad - assuming they have the money.

I've had both hips replaced. Waited five weeks for the first one in '09, 7 or 8 weeks for the second in '12 because we had moved to the sticks.
Cost me the price of a bottle of T3's. Even the equipment was loaned by the Red Cross.
It took my father months to die of brain tumours. In the US it would have bankrupted the whole family.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Oops, you're getting fired up, losing that so called Canadian sense of humor and going for attempted personal attacks now. How Canadian of you.

you read my getting "fired up" vs "my sense of humor" in a written text? without the benefit of facial expressions and without the benefit of the tone of my voice???
WOW - you really are a genius!!!!
(hint, read sarcasm)

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

That "kind-hearted" narrative - social media becoming prominent has demonstrated that to be quite the myth about Canadians.

haven't visited Canada lately?
let me give you an example:
Tell a Canadian what a lousy country we have, we will and say "WHATEVER"
Tell an American what a lousy country they have, and get shot or pounded on.

 

[Rostocker]

New York is the capital of the world.

It is not. Not even close. Its falling apart and decission makers leave it.

It started to crumble in the 90th and now is in free fall

 

[Rostocker]

You live in a postage stamp that is the least memorable european country.

Germany is the center of Europe and its cultural, natural and art hub.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Yes that is what I term basic Medicare.

However in reality basic Medicare is Part A and B. Part B comes with a small monthly premium around $140. Part A has no premium but a just under $1900.00 deductible. Most Medicare patients go with at least A and B. I am an exception to that as I am enrolled in Veterans Healthcare. I am only signed up for part "A".

 

[swing_voter]

Canada has lot of the metrics with NY State. Both have the same GDP. Both are left wing a.f.

Only NY State doesn't have as many citizens.

NY State is 19.5 million

Canada is 37.6 million



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[Yes_Minister]

My apologies for quoting the wrong post. As for Canadians living longer on average, you have to look more closely at those stats. It's primarily the poverty stricken inner cities that drive the averages down in the USA. And outside of that, it's a more about lifestyle then healthcare policy. Americans do on average have more unhealthy lifestyle habits then Canadians. That leads to more obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart conditions, etc. It's not all about the healthcare system. And the suggestion of less medical bankruptcies in Canada is also a bit misleading. Canada and the US do not have the same bankruptcy laws and not every American that takes advantage of the bankruptcy laws actually needs to. There are many alternatives programs available where one can avoid bankrupcy. It's just a last resort. And not all medical bankruptcies are due to medical bills. Many are simply due to a medical event or condition removing your ability to work for a living either temporarily or permanently. I assume the same occurs in Canada.

Read that BBC article, it said Canada has better treatment for cystic fibrosis than the US does and wider spread in terms of access to those treatments.

The US has the best care for the wealthy, but if a 30 something working poor guy in Canada and the US were hit by a truck, who would access care that wouldn't give them a huge bill that could bankrupt him?

Also, how do you know most of the medical bankruptcies are related to injuries that prevent work rather than the bills incurred by the treatment itself? Also are you sure you know a lot about the Canadian system, there are a lot of US myths about it:

Why Americans Have Been Deceived About Canada's Health Care System

For decades, the health insurance industry has been scaring Americans about Canada's health care system. We hear from a whistleblower about his role in the disinformation campaign.

www.npr.org

Do Medical Bills Really Bankrupt America's Families?

Medical bills can cause bankruptcies. Medical costs impact both household finances and the economy as a whole.

www.thebalance.com

 

[Allan]

Germany is the center of Europe and its cultural, natural and art hub.

Florence Italy angry emoticons your post.

 

[Grand Mal]

Read that BBC article, it said Canada has better treatment for cystic fibrosis than the US does and wider spread in terms of access to those treatments.

The US has the best care for the wealthy, but if a 30 something working poor guy in Canada and the US were hit by a truck, who would access care that wouldn't give them a huge bill that could bankrupt him?

Also, how do you know most of the medical bankruptcies are related to injuries that prevent work rather than the bills incurred by the treatment itself? Also are you sure you know a lot about the Canadian system, there are a lot of US myths about it:

Why Americans Have Been Deceived About Canada's Health Care System

For decades, the health insurance industry has been scaring Americans about Canada's health care system. We hear from a whistleblower about his role in the disinformation campaign.

www.npr.org

Do Medical Bills Really Bankrupt America's Families?

Medical bills can cause bankruptcies. Medical costs impact both household finances and the economy as a whole.

www.thebalance.com

I can't swear to it but I've heard that the hospital in Windsor has more American births than Canadian. Even with the payment schedule for non-residents It's cheaper than across the river in Detroit.