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Neither are "communal". Both are private matters. It's up to you to protect yourself from contagious illnesses.
Well, masks/pandemics are a communal concern. Abortion a private one.
Apples/oranges honey.
No she didn't. Nature made her become pregnant. A woman simply had sex. It was nature that made the pregnancy happen.That's like saying that someone is forced to be short because a state has outlawed a surgery to make them tall. Except in this case people are born short, a woman had made choices that caused her pregnancy
Sure you can. Masks entail your responsibility to not spread the disease to others. Abortion, whether the state may regulate an otherwise private medical decision.Then you get into who decides what is a “communal concern”
Not apples/oranges.
You can’t pick and choose what you want the government involved in when it comes to medical freedom and then bitch and complain when shit goes sideways.
A contagious pandemic dictated the narrative with the former while privacy rights (or lack thereof) is what is at stake in the latter.Some say Covid/virus = communal concern.
Others will say that the life of unborn = communal concern.
A classic Slippery Slope fallacy.Once you embrace government being involved in medical decisions, it opens a can that some of us don’t want opened under any circumstances.
And *magic* you get abortion laws.
Either privacy applies to medical decisions or it doesn’t - pick a side.
Nature allows for humans to combat disease, and heal from injury, as well. But many, doctors sure do help out with those things, wouldn't you agree?If nature allows for them then why do you need a doctor? Most of the abortion laws only target the doctors who are providing abortions
Women aren't killing fetuses, they're just removing them from their bodies. It's nature that's killing them. It's not the woman's fault a fetus can't live outside her body.
Fake news from an anti abortion website.Like I said science is catching up
New Study Shows Unborn Babies Feel Pain at 12 Weeks
New Study Shows Unborn Babies Feel Pain at 12 Weeks - Lozier Institute
“Science Again Points to the Humanity of the Unborn.” Washington, D.C. – A new study “Reconsidering Fetal Pain” confirms that babies in the womb can feel pain as early as 12 weeks old. Writing in the Journal of Medical Ethics, Stuart W.G. Derbyshire and John C. Bockmann state: “Overall, the...lozierinstitute.org
Pandemics require duel responsibilities.Neither are "communal". Both are private matters. It's up to you to protect yourself from contagious illnesses.
Taking away rights from 50% of the population is a communal concern.Well, masks/pandemics are a communal concern. Abortion a private one.
Apples/oranges honey.
Peer reviewedFake news from an anti abortion website.
Fetuses supposedly feel pain in the second trimester and "scream" in the womb, which is demonstrably untrue.
Sure you can. Masks entail your responsibility to not spread the disease to others. Abortion, whether the state may regulate an otherwise private medical decision.
Are you still schilling your "women can't have abortions because men have to pay child support" schtick?The state isn't forcing a woman to have a baby, it's nature that's doing that. All the state is saying is that they will not sanction the killing of the fetus
And yet we accept that people can be forced to wear shirts and shoes in places of business. Why does government mandate that you wear a shirt or shoes in an eatery?I’m not ok with this.
And my complaint wasn’t so much masks as it was vaccines.
Medical choice = medical choice.
I’m firmly pro-individual when it comes to medical choice.
Agreed. SCOTUS took a private concern and turned it into a public one.Taking away rights from 50% of the population is a communal concern.
Have we not been forcing women to give birth already after the fetus reaches a certain level of development? Let me ask a basic question of you. Is it immoral to terminate a baby as it is emerging from the mother?I disagree.
If states ban abortions by law they are forcing childbirt onto women who do not want to remain pregnant.
That is comparable to treating her like a slave .
Held to a fate against her will.
Deprived of the right to get out of the situation.
Unable to refuse the work involved. Receiving no compensation.
That's the very essence of slavery.
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Side-barFlu kills about 50k per year. Do you support mandating flu shots, masks, social distancing, and whatever else it takes to stop this other contagious illness from spreading?
Pandemics require duel responsibilities.
Not the same. When you take custody of another, you have a legal obligation to care for that person.Yes, and she may also have the baby and few weeks later leave it in a room to starve to death, because it's not the woman's fault that a baby can't live outside her body.
The government doesn’t. Private business does.And yet we accept that people can be forced to wear shirts and shoes in places of business. Why does government mandate that you wear a shirt or shoes in an eatery?
Not the same. When you take custody of another, you have a legal obligation to care for that person.
I wouldn’t call it a slippery slope fallacy considering it’s reality in this momentSure you can. Masks entail your responsibility to not spread the disease to others. Abortion, whether the state may regulate an otherwise private medical decision.
Apples, oranges
A contagious pandemic dictated the narrative with the former while privacy rights (or lack thereof) is what is at stake in the latter.
A classic Slippery Slope fallacy.
Critical discernment shows otherwise.
Try opening a restaurant that allows folk to not wear clothes inside it.The government doesn’t. Private business does.
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Stay on topic.
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A fetus is not "another". It is not a being. It's human tissue and cells, and has all the rights and privileges of an 11th toe. None.Seems to me that a woman carrying another human being insider of her body would be considered "custody of another".
Health inspectors don’t care what patrons wear.Try opening a restaurant that allows folk to not wear clothes inside it.
Let me know how that 1st health inspection goes, and get back to me.
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