Can someone still be a patriot and brandish a flag of treason?

[Tigerace117]

HISTORICAL NOTE:

In 1866, in an action which was well publicized and known the American government, the Fenian Brotherhood planned to invade BNA/Canada, capture Quebec, and establish an Irish "government in exile". That plan called for a three pronged invasion, a western wing of around 3,000 under the leadership of "Brigadier-General" Charles Tevis (a West Point graduate), a central wing of around 5,000 under the leadership of "General" John O’Neill (a colonel in the Union army), and an eastern wing of around 16,800 under the leadership of "Brigadier-General" Samuel M. Spear.

On 01 JUN 66, the Fenians put their plans into action. All 850 (the other 4,150 didn't show up) of the central wing invaded BNA/Canada. On the same day all 0 (no one showed up) of the western wing also invaded BNA/Canada and, at the same time all 0 (none of the 16,800 showed up) launched their strike.



By the close of 01 JUN 66, all of the Fenian forces had been expelled from BNA/Canada.



In 1870, the Fenians determined to try again.

Historical note:

The Fenians, being quite literally, a random bunch of Irishmen, launched their raids in an effort to force the British Empire to cease brutally opressing the people of Ireland. The Canadians, not seeing what was so wrong with oppressing Catholics(after all, they‘d been happily oppressing Catholics in Quebec for years) rallied to defend their master, the British Empire. The random Irishmen were essentially untrained, practiced essentially no secrecy in their operations(the British knew they were coming in the first place) and were basically an enthusiastic mob.

However, when they engaged the forces of the British Empire’s Far Northern Outpost, it was the Canadians who panicked and fled in every direction.

“There, they clashed with 850[2] advancing Canadian militia (the dark-green uniformed Queen's Own Rifles of Toronto and the traditionally clad red-coated 13th Battalion of Hamilton, reinforced by two local companies from Caledonia and York) commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Alfred Booker of the 13th Battalion. In the first hour of the battle, the Canadians appeared to prevail, driving Fenian skirmishers back across Bertie Road. Then something went wrong: to this day, it is not clear exactly what. Some sources say that the Canadian militiamen mistook Fenian scouts on horseback for cavalry. Orders to form a square to defend against a cavalry charge, although quickly countermanded, led to chaos in the Canadian ranks and Booker ordered a withdrawal after ninety minutes of battle. Other sources indicate that troops mistook a company of redcoated 13th Battalion infantry for British troops relieving them and began to withdraw; which then triggered a panic among other troops who mistook the withdrawal for a retreat.[11] O'Neill, observing the chaos breaking out in the Canadian ranks, quickly ordered a bayonet charge that completely routed the inexperienced Canadians.”

Battle of Ridgeway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The result was such a massive humiliation that the Canadian “government“ refused to acknowledge the men who had fought there for twenty five years.....and is still downplayed by Canadians to this day, apparently

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Confederacy's Canadian Mission: Spies Across the Border

Stealing secrets and causing trouble, Rebel spies in Canada waged a risky underground war across the Union's northern frontier.

www.historynet.com

There are numerous examples of Confederate raids from Canada.....but, of course, they were so incompetently done that none succeeded, and as a result put the British Empire’s Far Northern Outpost in an untenable position.....hence the “attempts“ at cracking down which, funnily enough, allowed the Confederates to escape....over and over and over again.

Did you know that "numerous" does not actually give dates and places as you were asked?

Lol if they were really as “competent as any other authorities“ the raids never could have gotten off the ground, because as my source shows the Confederates using Canada as a base were not competent in the slightest. Funnily enough, the incompetence of the Confederates left the Canadians up shit‘s creek and forced them to no longer turn a blind eye to the CSA’s actions by the end of 1864

Indeed, and the vastly more competent American authorities managed to completely foil Mr. Booth's plot - didn't they?

It’s amusing watching a British Empire fanboy suddenly pretend to be concerned about laws

Yes, for someone who laughs at laws, I can see how it would be amusing.

A bunch of random Irishmen repeatedly defeated the “might” of the British Empire‘s Far Northern Outpost. As I said before, it makes your squealing about US Navy ”incompetence“ rather amusing bud.

Yes indeed. The Fenians totally conquered Canada and achieved smashing military success.

Lol sure they would. More likely the forces of the British Empire’s Far Northern Outpost would deploy once again to try and crack enough Québécois skulls to ensure they “learned their lesson“ about betraying the Empire.

Yes, I can see why you would apply "The American Standard" to the enforcement of the law.

Yawn. Funnily enough, that’s not an excuse for the slavers. Their uprising had no legitimacy, as shown by the fact that not a single nation ever recognized them. Your excuses are as pitiful as ever.

Unsuccessful revolutionaries tend be be recognized at their executions.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Historical note:

The Fenians, being quite literally, a random bunch of Irishmen, launched their raids in an effort to force the British Empire to cease brutally opressing the people of Ireland. The Canadians, not seeing what was so wrong with oppressing Catholics(after all, they‘d been happily oppressing Catholics in Quebec for years) rallied to defend their master, the British Empire. The random Irishmen were essentially untrained, practiced essentially no secrecy in their operations(the British knew they were coming in the first place) and were basically an enthusiastic mob.

However, when they engaged the forces of the British Empire’s Far Northern Outpost, it was the Canadians who panicked and fled in every direction.

“There, they clashed with 850[2] advancing Canadian militia (the dark-green uniformed Queen's Own Rifles of Toronto and the traditionally clad red-coated 13th Battalion of Hamilton, reinforced by two local companies from Caledonia and York) commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Alfred Booker of the 13th Battalion. In the first hour of the battle, the Canadians appeared to prevail, driving Fenian skirmishers back across Bertie Road. Then something went wrong: to this day, it is not clear exactly what. Some sources say that the Canadian militiamen mistook Fenian scouts on horseback for cavalry. Orders to form a square to defend against a cavalry charge, although quickly countermanded, led to chaos in the Canadian ranks and Booker ordered a withdrawal after ninety minutes of battle. Other sources indicate that troops mistook a company of redcoated 13th Battalion infantry for British troops relieving them and began to withdraw; which then triggered a panic among other troops who mistook the withdrawal for a retreat.[11] O'Neill, observing the chaos breaking out in the Canadian ranks, quickly ordered a bayonet charge that completely routed the inexperienced Canadians.”

Battle of Ridgeway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The result was such a massive humiliation that the Canadian “government“ refused to acknowledge the men who had fought there for twenty five years.....and is still downplayed by Canadians to this day, apparently

Please continue with the rest of the entry that shows how the Fenians conquered Canada.

PS - The Canadian government has a lengthy history of not recognizing the actions of the Canadian military (no one quite knows why).

 

[Montgomery]

PS - The Canadian government has a lengthy history of not recognizing the actions of the Canadian military (no one quite knows why).

What do you mean? Can you provide an example or two of that?
There must be examples of that for any country with a military, to a greater or lesser extent.
But surely it wouldn't be difficult to find the reason why!

 

[Tigerace117]

Please continue with the rest of the entry that shows how the Fenians conquered Canada.

PS - The Canadian government has a lengthy history of not recognizing the actions of the Canadian military (no one quite knows why).

I stated that the Fenians defeated the Canadian "army".....which they did, at Ridgeway. That is the fact.

PS...everyone knows why the Canadian government didn't recognize them.....humiliation at being defeated by what amounted to an enthusiastic mob.

 

[Tigerace117]

Did you know that "numerous" does not actually give dates and places as you were asked?



Indeed, and the vastly more competent American authorities managed to completely foil Mr. Booth's plot - didn't they?



Yes, for someone who laughs at laws, I can see how it would be amusing.



Yes indeed. The Fenians totally conquered Canada and achieved smashing military success.



Yes, I can see why you would apply "The American Standard" to the enforcement of the law.



Unsuccessful revolutionaries tend be be recognized at their executions.

The article gives numerous examples....as I stated before. Your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem.

Actually, they did foil most of his plot. Booth's cell was targeting multiple other US government officials....and succeeded in killing none of them.

Pretending that the British Empire cared about "laws" is rather amusing, yes.

The Fenians sure smashed the Canadian "Army" at Ridgeway.

Actually the US was massively lenient and pardoned almost all of the Confederates......and still nobody recognized the Confederacy.

 

[dairyair]

So nothing, a random State Rep rattling cages does not equate to conservativism as a whole.

Further not sure how secession is conservative it could explain that.

I said it was southern. But the south has always been conservative. Whether they were dems or repubs.
Southern conservatives.
And they are states that seceded and some would still like to secede.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

What do you mean? Can you provide an example or two of that?

The latest example is the battle of the Medak Pocket which the Canadian government didn't even admit happened for almost 10 years, despite the fact that a mere 875 Canadian troops (without armour or artillery) stopped a Croat force of around 2,500 (with tanks and artillery) from carrying out their intended "ethnic cleansing" (which is today's polite term for "genocide").

There must be examples of that for any country with a military, to a greater or lesser extent.[/quite]

I'm sure that there are, but if you can think of a single US action in which American forces were outnumbered by around 3 to 1 (and out gunned as well) stopped an enemy attack, it will be the first I've ever heard of it.

But surely it wouldn't be difficult to find the reason why!

What it boils down to is that the Canadian government appears to be sort of embarrassed to admit that Canada actually has any military forces whatsoever. Of the three main political parties, the Liberal Party sort of wants to have a military - but doesn't know what it wants to do with it, the Conservative Party wants to have a military - but doesn't want to pay for one, and the New Democratic Party goes along with the sentiments in Rudyard Kipling's "Tommy". The fourth "major" party (although it has zippo representation outside of Quebec) the Bloc Quebecois is OK with having a military as long as it is all based in Quebec, all commanded by Francophones, is all paid for by the rest of the country, and never loses a soldier who is from Quebec.

 

[CLAX1911]

I said it was southern. But the south has always been conservative. Whether they were dems or repubs.
Southern conservatives.
And they are states that seceded and some would still like to secede.

Why is secession conservative? Seems anti conservative to me.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I stated that the Fenians defeated the Canadian "army".....which they did, at Ridgeway. That is the fact.

Right, and the Germans conquered Russia because they defeated the Red Army in the opening phase of Operation Barbarossa.

The Fenians were a bunch of comic opera buffoons whom no one but an idiot could take seriously.

By the way, you did NOT say "the Fenians defeated the Canadian 'army'", what you did say was

A bunch of random Irishmen repeatedly defeated the “might” of the British Empire‘s Far Northern Outpost.

I note the word "repeatedly" in that quote of your exact words. As I pointed out, the Fenians "invaded" on "Day 1" and had been expelled by "Day 2". Generally speaking the winning side doesn't end up surrendering the battlefield to the losing side.

Now, as with my requests that you provide MORE THAN ONE specific example of Confederate terrorist attacks on the US originating in Canada (which you have yet to do) I'll ask you to provide AT LEAST ONE specific example of successful Fenian invasions of BNA/Canada.

PS...everyone knows why the Canadian government didn't recognize them.....humiliation at being defeated by what amounted to an enthusiastic mob.

The BNA/Canadian government didn't bother to make a whole lot of noise over the "defeats" that it suffered in the other Fenian raids either, did it?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

The article gives numerous examples....as I stated before. Your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem.

Actually it doesn't. The only activity that the article mentions which could be classified as "terrorist" is the St. Albans raid. The other actions fall within the ambit of "legitimate military activity".

So, as before, please provide your list of the "many terrorist raids" that you say the Confederates originated from BNA/Canada.

Actually, they did foil most of his plot. Booth's cell was targeting multiple other US government officials....and succeeded in killing none of them.

Quite right and President Abraham Lincoln lived a long and healthy life before dying of old age on his farmstead.

Pretending that the British Empire cared about "laws" is rather amusing, yes.

I do get quite a chuckle out of how consistently you confuse your bias with reality.

The Fenians sure smashed the Canadian "Army" at Ridgeway.

And then ran away.

Actually the US was massively lenient and pardoned almost all of the Confederates......and still nobody recognized the Confederacy.

So what?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Why is secession conservative? Seems anti conservative to me.

If you are a part of a larger group that had previously acted in a way that you approved of and you see that the trend of that larger group is towards something that you do not want to be a part of, then secession IS being "conservative".

 

[Tigerace117]

Right, and the Germans conquered Russia because they defeated the Red Army in the opening phase of Operation Barbarossa.

The Fenians were a bunch of comic opera buffoons whom no one but an idiot could take seriously.

By the way, you did NOT say "the Fenians defeated the Canadian 'army'", what you did say was

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I note the word "repeatedly" in that quote of your exact words. As I pointed out, the Fenians "invaded" on "Day 1" and had been expelled by "Day 2". Generally speaking the winning side doesn't end up surrendering the battlefield to the losing side.

Now, as with my requests that you provide MORE THAN ONE specific example of Confederate terrorist attacks on the US originating in Canada (which you have yet to do) I'll ask you to provide AT LEAST ONE specific example of successful Fenian invasions of BNA/Canada.



The BNA/Canadian government didn't bother to make a whole lot of noise over the "defeats" that it suffered in the other Fenian raids either, did it?

And yet they still defeated Canadian troops at Ridegway. If the Fenians were ”buffoons“.....what does that say about the folks who lost to them

The Germans, like the Russians, used professional military forces. The Fenians were nothing more than a mob. And yet, Canadian troops were crushed by them. Too funny

I already provided multiple examples. The fact that your reading comprehension sucks is not my problem.

And again....Ridgeway was a rather blatant success for the Fenians and crushing of the Canadians.

Of course. After all, they were so humiliated by their defeat they pretended it didn’t happen for twenty five years. ,

 

[Tigerace117]

Actually it doesn't. The only activity that the article mentions which could be classified as "terrorist" is the St. Albans raid. The other actions fall within the ambit of "legitimate military activity".

So, as before, please provide your list of the "many terrorist raids" that you say the Confederates originated from BNA/Canada.



Quite right and President Abraham Lincoln lived a long and healthy life before dying of old age on his farmstead.



I do get quite a chuckle out of how consistently you confuse your bias with reality.



And then ran away.



So what?

Lol just because you consider the Confederate raiders’ attacks to be “military“ in nature doesn’t mean they were. Last time I checked there aren’t too many military operations to rob banks

Coming from the folks who, if your premise is to be believed, couldn’t stop a bunch of corrupt and bumbling thugs from freely operating for years in their major cities, your whining is as amusing as always.

Again, coming from you that’s a bad joke.

Lol no, that was the Canadian “Army” who fled. But hey, if they hadn’t run away when they did they probably would have been beaten even worse, so that’s a bit of a consolation prize for you.

So the Confederacy was about as “legitimate“ as Sealand.

 

[CLAX1911]

If you are a part of a larger group that had previously acted in a way that you approved of and you see that the trend of that larger group is towards something that you do not want to be a part of, then secession IS being "conservative".

Bull shit.

 

[dairyair]

Why is secession conservative? Seems anti conservative to me.

Because they can't handle change. Liberals. Progressing. They want things to stay the same or go back to the way they were before.

So rather than change, they want to leave, and start a war if need be.

Rush even agrees.
Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures.

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Towa...

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

 

[CLAX1911]

Because they can't handle change.

Secession is change.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

And yet they still defeated Canadian troops at Ridegway. If the Fenians were ”buffoons“.....what does that say about the folks who lost to them

It says that the BNA/Canadian troops returned to the battle and the Fenians ran away PERMANENTLY.

The Germans, like the Russians, used professional military forces. The Fenians were nothing more than a mob. And yet, Canadian troops were crushed by them. Too funny

As I wrote previously

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The Fenians managed to advance several miles into BNA/Canada and encountered the BNA/Canadian forces at Ridgeway. In the battle that ensued, the Fenians managed to kill 10 of the BNA/Canadian soldiers (at a cost of 18 Fenian dead) and wound 38 BNA/Canadian soldiers (at a cost of 24 Fenian wounded) to inflict a total of 48 casualties on the BNA/Canadian forces (at a cost of 42 Fenian casualties). That same day, the Fenians also encountered a detachment of 42 BNA/Canadian troops that was landing at Fort Erie. In the battle that ensued there, where the Fenians outnumbered the BNA/Canadian artillerymen who were without infantry support, the Fenians wounded 6 and took the remaining 36 prisoner (at a cost of 9 killed and 14 wounded.​

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By the close of 01 JUN 66, all of the Fenian forces had been expelled from BNA/Canada.​

Inflicting 6 more casualties (but 8 fewer dead) and then abandoning the "invasion" to flee back to the safe haven of the United States of America (who sheltered the [as you would term them] "terrorists") is about as much "crushing" as a BB is a cannonball.

I already provided multiple examples. The fact that your reading comprehension sucks is not my problem.

You have provided only ONE example of any "terrorism". I know that you have provided the same example many times, but that is not quite the same as providing examples of multiple acts of "terrorism".

And again....Ridgeway was a rather blatant success for the Fenians and crushing of the Canadians.

Which, of course, is why the Fenians ran away when the BNA/Canadian forces returned to the field.

Of course. After all, they were so humiliated by their defeat they pretended it didn’t happen for twenty five years. ,

Yeah, right, sure.

PS - I believe that there is a position open for a "historian" to write the story of how Germany actually won WWII, shall I forward your name?

PPS - You might not be aware of it, but WWII actually started on 07 DEC 41 and the Americans were crushingly defeated in the opening battle. Does that mean that Japan won WWII?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Lol just because you consider the Confederate raiders’ attacks to be “military“ in nature doesn’t mean they were. Last time I checked there aren’t too many military operations to rob banks

I go with what the court decided.

Coming from the folks who, if your premise is to be believed, couldn’t stop a bunch of corrupt and bumbling thugs from freely operating for years in their major cities, your whining is as amusing as always.

As long as the Confederate agents didn't breach the neutrality laws they were acting legally and the authorities had no legal reason to stop them. Not only that, but as long as the Union agents didn't breach the neutrality laws they were acting legally and the authorities had no legal reason to stop them.

Again, coming from you that’s a bad joke.

I am not the one who confuses a pinprick to be a lethal stabbing.

Lol no, that was the Canadian “Army” who fled. But hey, if they hadn’t run away when they did they probably would have been beaten even worse, so that’s a bit of a consolation prize for you.

Where were the Fenians on 02 JUN 66? Were they still in occupation of the field or had they fled back to the safety of the United States of America who sheltered them after their "terrorist raid"?

Where were the BNA/Canadian troops on 02 JUN 66? Were they locked up in POW camps or were there in possession of Ridgeway?

So the Confederacy was about as “legitimate“ as Sealand.

Since "Sealand" was NOT established by any body of persons duly elected to represent the populace, and since the Confederate States of America was, I can see that a person who doesn't know the difference could confuse the two.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Bull shit.

Nope. You are "conserving" the society that you want to belong to. Being "extremely conservatism" is also known as "being reactionary".

Remember, the "Patriots" were "Liberals" and the "Loyalists" were "Conservatives".

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Because they can't handle change. Liberals. Progressing. They want things to stay the same or go back to the way they were before.

So rather than change, they want to leave, and start a war if need be.

Rush even agrees.
Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures.

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Towa...

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

Those "conservative" states see things that they believe to be their way of life being "threatened" by the growing power of the "liberal" states. In order to "conserve" what they believe to be their way of life from being "swamped" by the power of the "liberal" states, they consider secession. If they do not get the concessions from the "liberal" states that they feel are necessary to "conserve" what they believe to be essential for their way of life, that consideration becomes more and more serious and may actually turn into an acutall secession movement.

Now, read that sentence again but substitute "southern" for "conservative" and "northern" for "liberal".

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Secession is change.

In the case of the American Civil War, secession was NOT "change", rather it was "letting change happen someplace else".

 

[Tigerace117]

I go with what the court decided.



As long as the Confederate agents didn't breach the neutrality laws they were acting legally and the authorities had no legal reason to stop them. Not only that, but as long as the Union agents didn't breach the neutrality laws they were acting legally and the authorities had no legal reason to stop them.



I am not the one who confuses a pinprick to be a lethal stabbing.



Where were the Fenians on 02 JUN 66? Were they still in occupation of the field or had they fled back to the safety of the United States of America who sheltered them after their "terrorist raid"?

Where were the BNA/Canadian troops on 02 JUN 66? Were they locked up in POW camps or were there in possession of Ridgeway?



Since "Sealand" was NOT established by any body of persons duly elected to represent the populace, and since the Confederate States of America was, I can see that a person who doesn't know the difference could confuse the two.

Lol yeah, you go with what the Canadian government, which had been turning a blind eye to Confederate terrorism, went with in order to justify letting said Confederates off the hook. What a surprise.....not.

Another weak excuse, which doesn’t change the fact that the Confederates became so blatant in their continued actions that the Canadian “government” was forced to no longer turn a blind eye.

I’m not the one who pretends that the person who hides the terrorists isn‘t equally as guilty. Confederate incompetence is not an excuse.

They were arrested and their weapons were confiscated..... which, funnily enough, is far more than the Canadian “government” did to stop Confederate terrorism.

The Canadian troops had recovered from the humiliating defeat they suffered at the hands of the Fenians.....not that the Canadian “government” admitted as much.

As I said......the Confederacy was as “legitimate” as Sealand. The two are recognized by the exact same number of countries. Hell, Sealand is more legitimate than the Confederacy.

 

[Tigerace117]

It says that the BNA/Canadian troops returned to the battle and the Fenians ran away PERMANENTLY.



As I wrote previously

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The Fenians managed to advance several miles into BNA/Canada and encountered the BNA/Canadian forces at Ridgeway. In the battle that ensued, the Fenians managed to kill 10 of the BNA/Canadian soldiers (at a cost of 18 Fenian dead) and wound 38 BNA/Canadian soldiers (at a cost of 24 Fenian wounded) to inflict a total of 48 casualties on the BNA/Canadian forces (at a cost of 42 Fenian casualties). That same day, the Fenians also encountered a detachment of 42 BNA/Canadian troops that was landing at Fort Erie. In the battle that ensued there, where the Fenians outnumbered the BNA/Canadian artillerymen who were without infantry support, the Fenians wounded 6 and took the remaining 36 prisoner (at a cost of 9 killed and 14 wounded.​

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By the close of 01 JUN 66, all of the Fenian forces had been expelled from BNA/Canada.​

Inflicting 6 more casualties (but 8 fewer dead) and then abandoning the "invasion" to flee back to the safe haven of the United States of America (who sheltered the [as you would term them] "terrorists") is about as much "crushing" as a BB is a cannonball.



You have provided only ONE example of any "terrorism". I know that you have provided the same example many times, but that is not quite the same as providing examples of multiple acts of "terrorism".



Which, of course, is why the Fenians ran away when the BNA/Canadian forces returned to the field.



Yeah, right, sure.

PS - I believe that there is a position open for a "historian" to write the story of how Germany actually won WWII, shall I forward your name?

PPS - You might not be aware of it, but WWII actually started on 07 DEC 41 and the Americans were crushingly defeated in the opening battle. Does that mean that Japan won WWII?

The Canadians were harangued into returning to the place where they had been humiliated and utterly crushed by a mob of random civilians....eventually, once the danger was over

Refering to the bad joke that was the “military” of the British Empire’s Far Northern Outpost as a “cannonball” of course, is rather amusing.

As I said before, the Fenians crushed the forces of “Canada” in battle.....which makes your whining about anyone else‘s ”competence”, or lack there of, rather amusing.

I have provided multiple examples from multiple sources. Your sympathies for the Confederacy and desperation to downplay their actions doesn’t change the facts

Gee bud, clearly they were just emulating the fine example of marital prowess their opponents had shown

PS—Considering that the US could have defeated Germany singlehandedly even if no other country was fighting(with ease) your whining is amusing.

PPS— Considering that the US was attacked by professional naval aviators and sailors of a foreign militarym rather than a random mob, I‘m not surprised that your attempts to equate the two fall as flat as ever

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Lol yeah, you go with what the Canadian government, which had been turning a blind eye to Confederate terrorism, went with in order to justify letting said Confederates off the hook. What a surprise.....not.

Another weak excuse, which doesn’t change the fact that the Confederates became so blatant in their continued actions that the Canadian “government” was forced to no longer turn a blind eye.

I’m not the one who pretends that the person who hides the terrorists isn‘t equally as guilty. Confederate incompetence is not an excuse.

They were arrested and their weapons were confiscated..... which, funnily enough, is far more than the Canadian “government” did to stop Confederate terrorism.

The Canadian troops had recovered from the humiliating defeat they suffered at the hands of the Fenians.....not that the Canadian “government” admitted as much.

As I said......the Confederacy was as “legitimate” as Sealand. The two are recognized by the exact same number of countries. Hell, Sealand is more legitimate than the Confederacy.

You have become boring.