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I spent the day in Los Angeles yesterday for a convention and, to be real, it wasn’t pretty at all. I had heard about human feces and trash in the streets but I thought that was exaggerated and hey, every city has their “bad” neighborhoods. Just in the drive to and from the venue, which was about an hour from LAX, I saw more than just some litter on the ground. I saw dozens of stuffed shopping carts blocking the sidewalks, people with giant bags of cans walking casually through traffic, drivers being hit up for spare change while waiting in line at a drive through, campsites and cardboard dwellings in virtually every open space along the freeway, tents pitched in the doorways of buildings and even streets lined with derelict, trashed out RVs (that **** would be towed away where I live).
No doubt, there are very nice areas of LA, much nicer than anything we have we live. I think, though, what I saw is an extreme example of what happens when you divorce people from any accountability for their lives and choices and, instead, place blame those who do work to take care of themselves. It actually isn’t selfish to take care of yourself so others don’t have to take care of you. Compassion is a great thing and we need social safety nets but compassion without some responsibility is just enabling and I don’t think anything I saw was beneficial to anyone.
/end rant
Perhaps he wants them locked in workhouses.
I don’t mean to sound judgmental. I legit thought it was sad. I have no doubt LA has a lot more to offer than what I saw. Where I live is far from rich, and we do have homeless people, of course, but no way would people be allowed to set up residence anywhere they wanted.
All the best places in the world to live are liberal/progressive/leftist utopias.
Yeah. I know a lot of taxes are collected in California. Seems reasonable to expect the streets not be taken over by squatters in rotting tents and RVs.
https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/dam/sdc/grandjury/reports/2017-2018/HepAReport.pdfIn March 2017, San Diego County epidemiologists reported an outbreak of Hepatitis A (HepA)
cases. This sudden increase in HepA centered on the local homeless population and illicit IV
drug users, and was unrelated to food contamination. Over the next few months this developed
into the largest epidemic of HepA in the country in over 25 years. It was not until six months
later, after 434 cases and 16 deaths had been reported, that the Public Health Officer for the
County of San Diego declared and San Diego County Board of Supervisors (Board) ratified a
local public health emergency. The Board ended the emergency on January 23, 2018, at which
time 580 cases and 20 deaths due to HepA had been reported.
Yeah. I know a lot of taxes are collected in California. Seems reasonable to expect the streets not be taken over by squatters in rotting tents and RVs.
How close is L.A. to building 10,000 houses for homeless people? Here’s a breakdown - Los Angeles TimesIn 2016, Los Angeles voters approved a $1.2-billion bond measure to help fund housing for homeless people, with a goal of 10,000 new units in a decade.
Now, after hustling to get as many housing projects started as soon as possible, city officials are coming to the end of the money available through Proposition HHH, and it’s not certain that promise will be kept.
The city has committed two-thirds of the bond to secure a little more than half the units the measure was intended to subsidize.
Shouldn’t the poor and homeless be actually better off in a city run by more liberal leaders?
Too many steps to wrong direction?
Poorest and richest in same city? L.A. is "nice" example of extreme inequality, but it's ok - I guess. Has to be ok, because it's getting worse. More shelters for homeless? Hide them under rocks? Sucks to be poor in US - being poor should be illegal!!! One way is build new for profit prisons and jail all homeless - clean the streets!!! Maybe MAGA 2.0 will solve this issue - so you have to re-elect Trump \o/
I spent the day in Los Angeles yesterday for a convention and, to be real, it wasn’t pretty at all. I had heard about human feces and trash in the streets but I thought that was exaggerated and hey, every city has their “bad” neighborhoods. Just in the drive to and from the venue, which was about an hour from LAX, I saw more than just some litter on the ground. I saw dozens of stuffed shopping carts blocking the sidewalks, people with giant bags of cans walking casually through traffic, drivers being hit up for spare change while waiting in line at a drive through, campsites and cardboard dwellings in virtually every open space along the freeway, tents pitched in the doorways of buildings and even streets lined with derelict, trashed out RVs (that **** would be towed away where I live).
No doubt, there are very nice areas of LA, much nicer than anything we have we live. I think, though, what I saw is an extreme example of what happens when you divorce people from any accountability for their lives and choices and, instead, place blame those who do work to take care of themselves. It actually isn’t selfish to take care of yourself so others don’t have to take care of you. Compassion is a great thing and we need social safety nets but compassion without some responsibility is just enabling and I don’t think anything I saw was beneficial to anyone.
/end rant
Should they bus them to the city you live in ? Should they be thrown in jail or a camp? Concentrate them in a few locations so that they don't offend other people?
Where I live is far from rich, and we do have homeless people, of course, but no way would people be allowed to set up residence anywhere they wanted.
Too many steps to wrong direction?
Poorest and richest in same city? L.A. is "nice" example of extreme inequality, but it's ok - I guess. Has to be ok, because it's getting worse. More shelters for homeless? Hide them under rocks? Sucks to be poor in US - being poor should be illegal!!! One way is build new for profit prisons and jail all homeless - clean the streets!!! Maybe MAGA 2.0 will solve this issue - so you have to re-elect Trump \o/
I don’t mean to sound judgmental. I legit thought it was sad. I have no doubt LA has a lot more to offer than what I saw. Where I live is far from rich, and we do have homeless people, of course, but no way would people be allowed to set up residence anywhere they wanted.
Downtown Los Angeles has not really been a social hub since maybe the 1950's.
It's a necessary place, it's useful, it's economically active but Angelenos do not identify with downtown L.A. in their minds the way Dallasites or Houstonians might identify with theirs.
That is not an excuse. I am merely explaining how the place is laid out, that's all. Angelenos are busy trying to clean up the downtown parts of Whittier, Mission Hills, Burbank, Culver City, Santa Monica, Inglewood, Long Beach, El Monte, Pasadena, Torrance, Garden Grove, etc. L.A. is a bunch of suburbs knitted together and the downtown area isn't how they identify.
We have always had an oversupply of homeless due to the weather but adding people who lost their jobs, or could no longer afford their rent after the last big hike, that has pushed the problem to the bursting point here and in other cities, but especially here and in places like San Francisco because of the housing shortage and the high rents.
No, it's NOT beneficial and that may be why some Angelenos are trying to mount a recall campaign on the Mayor.
Believe me when I say that many Angelenos see that places like SLC have figured out how to help the homelessness problem, and they're realizing that the city is dragging their feet.
But as you already said, the entire metro area isn't like this.
It's a national problem but Southern California is feeling the pain first and perhaps more than other places.
I've lived in places where everybody goes downtown all the time. Minneapolis is a great example of that.
I have not been to downtown L.A. in over two years, and that last time WAS at the L.A. Convention Center by the way.
That was the only reason to go. The only other reason I can think of would be if I had to go to court for something, which I haven't had to do in a long time.
Wife and I just went to downtown Whittier a week ago for dinner and a movie.
Should they bus them to the city you live in ? Should they be thrown in jail or a camp? Concentrate them in a few locations so that they don't offend other people?
It's not that they are "allowed", it's that the city is overwhelmed.
You can't exactly call in the Scoops, like in Soylent Green.
Considering vagrancy is illegal I don’t see the issue with jail.
Slothfulness, mental illness, and drug addiction are a result of "extreme inequality?"
Please..:lol:
Yeah, liberal city officials are overwhelmed with their own self-importance while street clogging trash is bringing rats flea-borne typhus and maggots to the inner DT-LA area.
Downtown Los Angeles has not really been a social hub since maybe the 1950's.
It's a necessary place, it's useful, it's economically active but Angelenos do not identify with downtown L.A. in their minds the way Dallasites or Houstonians might identify with theirs.
That is not an excuse. I am merely explaining how the place is laid out, that's all. Angelenos are busy trying to clean up the downtown parts of Whittier, Mission Hills, Burbank, Culver City, Santa Monica, Inglewood, Long Beach, El Monte, Pasadena, Torrance, Garden Grove, etc. L.A. is a bunch of suburbs knitted together and the downtown area isn't how they identify.
We have always had an oversupply of homeless due to the weather but adding people who lost their jobs, or could no longer afford their rent after the last big hike, that has pushed the problem to the bursting point here and in other cities, but especially here and in places like San Francisco because of the housing shortage and the high rents.
No, it's NOT beneficial and that may be why some Angelenos are trying to mount a recall campaign on the Mayor.
Believe me when I say that many Angelenos see that places like SLC have figured out how to help the homelessness problem, and they're realizing that the city is dragging their feet.
But as you already said, the entire metro area isn't like this.
It's a national problem but Southern California is feeling the pain first and perhaps more than other places.
I've lived in places where everybody goes downtown all the time. Minneapolis is a great example of that.
I have not been to downtown L.A. in over two years, and that last time WAS at the L.A. Convention Center by the way.
That was the only reason to go. The only other reason I can think of would be if I had to go to court for something, which I haven't had to do in a long time.
Wife and I just went to downtown Whittier a week ago for dinner and a movie.
Looks nice, for real. I live in El Paso, Tx and, to be fair, I doubt anyone would come here for a luxury vacation or booming nightlife. I like it here, a lot, myself but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. I’ve always said it’s a nice place to live but you wouldn’t want to visit. Most of our city leaders are Democrats and some years back they started working on “revitalizing” our downtown. I, admittedly, scoffed at that but you know what? It is nicer.
Are you saying ONLY the homeless live in these areas? Because if so, you are out of touch. Los Angeles (DTLA) is the central business district of Los Angeles, California, as well as a diverse residential neighborhood of some 58,000 people 58,000 residents mixed with 50,000 homeless makes for a bad combination
Some Maywood residents demand mayor resign due to garbage problems - Video | KTTV
Great idea throw people in jail for not having a home. At a cost if what $60 000 a year
The only time I've been to El Paso, is when my family and I went on a road trip to San Francisco. Long time agooooo.
I've never been hit up in a thrive-thu before. Hearing that's new. I have given plenty of my spare change in my car to homeless people that I see all around downtown Houston. Usually they are on the side of the street. It accumulates all the time, and I'm fine with giving it away. By the way, I'm going to be staying in Los Angeles for a some days next month. First time visiting, so it's gonna be new for me.
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