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California vice mayor calls for gangs to help protect communities from ICE raids

Why are illegal immigrants being violent and fighting law enforcement? That is not justifiable in any way...



Condoning violence where people might be shot and killed.? Classy.



Maybe...

It's difficult to believe that you don't understand how Trump is playing you here.
 
So that means an elected official calling for sedition is okay?

No it would be community if instead of paying them less for all of these years and using them for slave labor they help them become citizens. Now the pro crime party is appealing to their buddies the gangsters to stop the will of the people to interfere with the democracy.

This vice mayor is a traitor.

This is quite comical.

You want the community to help people become legal while ICE is deporting people who are trying to become legal.
 
So you appealed to violent gangsters in order to do something peaceful? I wasn't born yesterday I'm not dumb enough to buy that.

Feel free, any of you, to point out any violence she is calling for.

Ya'll are being hysterical.
 
Obviously, dumb thing to say.
 
Calling for violence against Federal law enforcement.

That's gotta be a felony.
They are all criminals, lock em all up and then ship em all out.
Have you ever in your entire life read something so crazy --- siding with the gangs to take on ICE? She should be recalled for that little stunt.
Is it obvious they are pro criminal pro crime that's what they like probably because they are criminals themselves.

the vice mayor is delusional


Good thing Trumpco decided to do exactly what they said
and deported the hardened criminals like the ones running in gangs first
instead of focusing on people at work,
people looking for work,
people going to immigration hearings,
and kids
These hardened criminals the vice mayor is addressing were the first ones Trumpco's gravy seals rounded up
because America's top priority was getting rid of the DANGER of foreign criminals
so, obviously none of these criminals are here any more
because Trumpco started with them first as promised



therefore the vice mayor is delusional
 
So you appealed to violent gangsters in order to do something peaceful? I wasn't born yesterday I'm not dumb enough to buy that.

I can only quote her.
 
Since when do criminals get to decide how Law Enforcement deal with them?

What is going on in the World?

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lol, the guy overseeing ICE is a criminal.
 
No argument. Got it.

Are you claiming what ICE is doing is fine?
It seems many, many people strongly disagree with that opinion and I'm one of them.
 
Are you claiming what ICE is doing is fine?

Yes and no... it is not as simple as you, and most, want to make it out. Most of the Illegals should be given a path to citizenship. ICE is doing what it was designed to do. Identify and deport Illegal Immigrants. Something like 60% of Americans wanted Trump to deal with Illegal Immigration. He is dealing with it.


Is it neat and tidy? No. Is it criminal? No.

It seems many, many people strongly disagree with that opinion and I'm one of them.

Illegal Immigration costs the American Taxpayers $150 Billion dollars a year.



What solution do you have to offer so that things ran according to how you think they should be going?


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Yes and no... it is not as simple as you, and most, want to make it out. Most of the Illegals should be given a path to citizenship. ICE is doing what it was designed to do. Identify and deport Illegal Immigrants. Something like 60% of Americans wanted Trump to deal with Illegal Immigration. He is dealing with it.


Is it neat and tidy? No. Is it criminal? No.



Illegal Immigration costs the American Taxpayers $150 Billion dollars a year.



What solution do you have to offer so that things ran according to how you think they should be going?


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My solution would be not using masked goons to kidnap people at legal hearings and those just trying to look for work.
I'd continue the system the US has had for the last century.
 
You say they are doing something
I ask what you what it is that they are doing.
You say watch the news
I say that you don't have an argument
And you ask me if I think what ICE is doing is fine?

Are you able to follow a conversation long enough to see what a failure your debating style here is?

Are you claiming what ICE is doing is fine?
It seems many, many people strongly disagree with that opinion and I'm one of them.
 
My solution would be not using masked goons to kidnap people at legal hearings and those just trying to look for work.
I'd continue the system the US has had for the last century.

The one that costs Americans $150 Billion dollars and creates all sorts of problems to health care, housing, crime and employment, to name a few?

You are English, right? You guys have the same issues and around 60% of Brits want a reduction in Immigration as well.
 
The one that costs Americans $150 Billion dollars and creates all sorts of problems to health care, housing, crime and employment, to name a few?

You are English, right? You guys have the same issues and around 60% of Brits want a reduction in Immigration as well.

This $150 billion figure is highly suspect as almost all imigrants work and contribute to society.
yes the UK has a problem with migrants coming over on boats from France with many, many unfortunate deaths (the English Channel may seem small but its bloody cold and one of the busiest shipping lanes on earth) and yet we haven't resorted to anything like the draconian tactics the US has and we never will.
 
This $150 billion figure is highly suspect as almost all imigrants work and contribute to society.
yes the UK has a problem with migrants coming over on boats from France with many, many unfortunate deaths (the English Channel may seem small but its bloody cold and one of the busiest shipping lanes on earth) and yet we haven't resorted to anything like the draconian tactics the US has and we never will.

Oh, so since it is not dealt with identically, it is not a good comparison?

You guys aren't that far behind. Nearly 50% of Brits oppose any more Muslim immigration.
 
Oh, so since it is not dealt with identically, it is not a good comparison?

You guys aren't that far behind. Nearly 50% of Brits oppose any more Muslim immigration.

The UK will never adopt anything like the same tactics as the US and for one simple reason.
The UK doesnt have an equivalent of ICE.
UK and US police are completely different and use completely different tactics.
You're free to claim that's a good or bad thing as you see fit.
 
This is quite comical.
When someone says hey terrorists in our community come through violence against a lawful action of the government that's absolutely sedition
You want the community to help people become legal while ICE is deporting people who are trying to become legal.
Rounding up people in deporting them 5 years ago were these people here if so wherever they sitting around twiddling their damn thumbs
 
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