California vice mayor calls for gangs to help protect communities from ICE raids

[Bodi]

We have no proof that the masked goons kidnapping people off our streets are law enforcement.

You have it opposite, unfortunately. There is proof.

There is no proof that they are not law enforcement.

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[Bodi]

I mean them looking like some militia type sov citizen trying to kidnap you already raises that risk.

Any evidence that this has happened? Even once?

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

Incitement and calls to violence can be the same thing.

They can be. But they aren't by definition.

"Firing a gun" can be murder, if you're aiming it at another person. But it can also not be murder, if you're at the firing range, and aiming at a target.

 

[jaypatriot]

Have a problem with protecting people from kidnappings?

Arresting an illegal alien for being in this country is not kidnapping. It is apprehending a felon.
That's something that senile Biden wasn't able to grasp when he allowed millions of illegals to invade our southern border.

 

[j brown's body]

Arresting an illegal alien for being in this country is not kidnapping. It is apprehending a felon.
That's something that senile Biden wasn't able to grasp when he allowed millions of illegals to invade our southern border.

Since they were allowed in, they're legal.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[j brown's body]

ICE will probably be shot due to the mayors call up of gangs... and then you can shrug and blame Trump...


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Everybody hates ICE. Trump uses them to provoke emotional responses in communities. Their actions are paramiitaristic and are characterized by sadistic cruelty He likes that. The violent response to their tactics enables him to criticize the cities run by people he hates and sic the National Guard on them.

For these reasons , if ICE gets shot, it will be Trump's fault.

But speaking of gangs, if he focused on them instead of productive workers, the response by the public might not be so severe. They might even like it. But that's the last thing he wants.

 

[jaypatriot]

Since they were allowed in, they're legal.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

The millions of "got-aways" entered illegally.
They need to be deported and encouraged to return legally.

 

[j brown's body]

The millions of "got-aways" entered illegally.
They need to be deported and encouraged to return legally.

If they're gotaways, then Biden didn't allow them in.

 

[Bodi]

Everybody hates ICE. Trump uses them to provoke emotional responses in communities. Their actions are paramiitaristic and are characterized by sadistic cruelty He likes that. The violent response to their tactics

Why are illegal immigrants being violent and fighting law enforcement? That is not justifiable in any way...

enables him to criticize the cities run by people he hates and sic the National Guard on them.

For these reasons , if ICE gets shot, it will be Trump's fault.

Condoning violence where people might be shot and killed.? Classy.

But speaking of gangs, if he focused on them instead of productive workers, the response by the public might not be so severe. They might even like it. But that's the last thing he wants.

Maybe...

 

[trixare4kids]

Mayor calls on gangs to rise up and fight ICE. Prosecution? What is wrong with these people fighting to protect illegal immigrants?

The vice mayor of a small city in Ctalifornia is under fire after a social media video emerged in which she appears to call on local street gangs to stand up to raids on undocumented migrants by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. Defence

In a clip posted to Instagram and then swiftly deleted by Cynthia Gonzalez, Vice Mayor of Cudahy – which lies just southeast of Los Angeles – the politician says: “I want to know where all the cholos are at in Los Angeles – 18th Street, Florencia Where’s the leadership at?

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Have you ever in your entire life read something so crazy --- siding with the gangs to take on ICE? She should be recalled for that little stunt.

 

[Peter]

Mayor calls on gangs to rise up and fight ICE. Prosecution? What is wrong with these people fighting to protect illegal immigrants?

The vice mayor of a small city in California is under fire after a social media video emerged in which she appears to call on local street gangs to stand up to raids on undocumented migrants by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. Defence

In a clip posted to Instagram and then swiftly deleted by Cynthia Gonzalez, Vice Mayor of Cudahy – which lies just southeast of Los Angeles – the politician says: “I want to know where all the cholos are at in Los Angeles – 18th Street, Florencia Where’s the leadership at?

MSN

If these people were being deported by the standard legal process then we wouldn't be having this mass outbrake of civil defiance.

Instead masked goonsquads are rounding people up at legal hearings for citizenship and people just waiting to get work for the day.
The fault here lies entirely with Trump and ICE.

 

[Bodi]

If these people were being deported by the standard legal process then we wouldn't be having this mass outbrake of civil defiance.

Instead masked goonsquads are rounding people up at legal hearings for citizenship and people just waiting to get work for the day.
The fault here lies entirely with Trump and ICE.

Since when do criminals get to decide how Law Enforcement deal with them?

What is going on in the World?

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[Peter]

Since when do criminals get to decide how Law Enforcement deal with them?

What is going on in the World?

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Since when does the government use masked goonsquads?

 

[rahl]

There is no exception to the First Amendment regarding "calls for violence." Law enforcement aren't special.

lol, no. There is no first amendment protections for inciting violence. Especially against law enforcement/government officials.

There is an exception for "incitement" - but that's a very high bar to meet.

No it isn’t.

The prosecution would have to prove that the speaker both intended to incite others to imminent lawless action, and that such imminent lawless action was likely to occur.

Which we have her on video doing.

Ms. Gonzales' comments do not come close to meeting that bar.

Of course they do.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

Which we have her on video doing.

I think you might be in the wrong thread.

 

[rahl]

I think you might be in the wrong thread.

No

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

No

lol, no. There is no first amendment protections for inciting violence. Especially against law enforcement/government officials.

Yes, there is. There are countless SCOTUS cases about it, but you can start with Brandenburg.

No it isn’t.

Yeah, it really is. If you've got Lexis or Westlaw, you can click the "Citing References" button on the toolbar, when you're on the page for Brandenburg.

Since you're so confident in your analysis, you must clearly be a professional.

 

[rahl]

Yes, there is.

No there isn’t.

There are countless SCOTUS cases about it, but you can start with Brandenburg.

No SCOTUS case says you can incite violence against law enforcement or government officials.

Yeah, it really is. If you've got Lexis or Westlaw, you can click the "Citing References" button on the toolbar, when you're on the page for Brandenburg.

No, it isn’t. There is not a single Supreme Court ruling saying you can incite violence against law enforcement.

Since you're so confident in your analysis, you must clearly be a professional.

No, just smarter than you.

 

[Peter]

Yes, there is. There are countless SCOTUS cases about it, but you can start with Brandenburg.



Yeah, it really is. If you've got Lexis or Westlaw, you can click the "Citing References" button on the toolbar, when you're on the page for Brandenburg.

Since you're so confident in your analysis, you must clearly be a professional.

By all means write an email to police in the area and have the vice mayor arrested for this crime if its so obvious.

 

[Blue Dog]

There is no justification for an elected official to foment gang activity against federal law enforcement officers.

My two cents on this.

 

[Bodi]

Since when does the government use masked goonsquads?

They shouldn't, unless they are Delta Force... but your bias is pretty clear when you keep insulting them.

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[Peter]

They shouldn't, unless they are Delta Force... but your bias is pretty clear when you keep insulting them.

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Considering what they're doing, insulting them is the least they should expect.

 

[uptower]

Masked thugs vs masked thugs?

Six months in people.

Six ****ing months.

 

[CLAX1911]

Mayor calls on gangs to rise up and fight ICE. Prosecution? What is wrong with these people fighting to protect illegal immigrants?

Is it obvious they are pro criminal pro crime that's what they like probably because they are criminals themselves.

The vice mayor of a small city in California is under fire after a social media video emerged in which she appears to call on local street gangs to stand up to raids on undocumented migrants by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. Defence

In a clip posted to Instagram and then swiftly deleted by Cynthia Gonzalez, Vice Mayor of Cudahy – which lies just southeast of Los Angeles – the politician says: “I want to know where all the cholos are at in Los Angeles – 18th Street, Florencia Where’s the leadership at?

MSN

 

[CLAX1911]

The illegal immigrants are their co-workers, friends and family.

So that means an elected official calling for sedition is okay?

They have an emotional connection to them that laws cannot break. It's called a community.

No it would be community if instead of paying them less for all of these years and using them for slave labor they help them become citizens. Now the pro crime party is appealing to their buddies the gangsters to stop the will of the people to interfere with the democracy.

This vice mayor is a traitor.