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California's economy has overtaken that of the country of Japan, making the US state the fourth largest global economic force.
Governor Gavin Newsom touted new data from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the US Bureau of Economic Analysis showing California's growth. The data shows California's gross domestic product (GDP) hit $4.10 trillion (£3.08 trillion) in 2024, surpassing Japan, which was marked at $4.01 trillion. The state now only trails Germany, China and the US as a whole.
"California isn't just keeping pace with the world - we're setting the pace," Newsom said. The new figures come as Newsom has spoken out against President Donald Trump's tariffs and voiced concern about the future of the state's economy.

California has the largest share of manufacturing and agricultural production in the US. It is also home to leading technological innovation, the centre of the world's entertainment industry and the country's two largest seaports.

Newsom for President.
 
California's economy has overtaken that of the country of Japan, making the US state the fourth largest global economic force.
Governor Gavin Newsom touted new data from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the US Bureau of Economic Analysis showing California's growth. The data shows California's gross domestic product (GDP) hit $4.10 trillion (£3.08 trillion) in 2024, surpassing Japan, which was marked at $4.01 trillion. The state now only trails Germany, China and the US as a whole.
"California isn't just keeping pace with the world - we're setting the pace," Newsom said. The new figures come as Newsom has spoken out against President Donald Trump's tariffs and voiced concern about the future of the state's economy.

California has the largest share of manufacturing and agricultural production in the US. It is also home to leading technological innovation, the centre of the world's entertainment industry and the country's two largest seaports.

Newsom for President.

And still no universal healthcare or high speed rail. Go figure.
 
GDP is a measure of economic activity. It's like adding your spending with your expenses. Guess what? It don't mean you made a profit. It just means you have a potential to make a profit.
 
West Virginia has a higher GDP Per Capita than France
 
California’s per capita GDP is almost 3X that of Japan, but pales when compared to that of Washington D.C. (which is over 2X that of California).

 
California’s per capita GDP is almost 3X that of Japan, but pales when compared to that of Washington D.C. (which is over 2X that of California).

We actually have large swaths of farmland, manufacturing plants, etc. which don’t exactly encompass the DC economy. If you want a more fair comparison, city to city, compare DC to say San Jose; DC is still higher but it’s also closer.
 
GDP is a measure of economic activity. It's like adding your spending with your expenses. Guess what? It don't mean you made a profit. It just means you have a potential to make a profit.
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California is the hart of the US tech industry. Highly profitable companies, the ones that generate the most foreign income for the US is based there.

Apple alone is worth multiple red states in economic activity
 
We actually have large swaths of farmland, manufacturing plants, etc. which don’t exactly encompass the DC economy. If you want a more fair comparison, city to city, compare DC to say San Jose; DC is still higher but it’s also closer.


Comparing a very small area like DC, to a large state is not a good comparison, especially as DC is home to very well paid lobbyists
 
California is the hart of the US tech industry. Highly profitable companies, the ones that generate the most foreign income for the US is based there.

Apple alone is worth multiple red states in economic activity
Apple may be based in CA but it has overseas factories and it sells to all over the world. CA just 'steals' it's GDP which should have realistically been spread all over the world.
 
Apple may be based in CA but it has overseas factories and it sells to all over the world. CA just 'steals' it's GDP which should have realistically been spread all over the world.
If this logic rings true, then the entire US steals the GDP of manufacturing outsourced to other nations.
 
Apple may be based in CA but it has overseas factories and it sells to all over the world. CA just 'steals' it's GDP which should have realistically been spread all over the world.


The profits are brought to California, the highest paid people by Apple are generally located in California. Ie $ 150 000 and up vs $8000 or lower for people assembling Apple products.

Those very well paid Apple employees spend a lot of money
 
Apple may be based in CA but it has overseas factories and it sells to all over the world. CA just 'steals' it's GDP which should have realistically been spread all over the world.
Harley-Davidson makes motorcycles in Thailand. Does that count in Milwaukee's GDP?
 

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