I couldn't if i tried....eating only tacos..or kentucky fried..
You're going to oppose everything Herman Cain suggests, because he's a black Conservative.
Some are taking a principled altruistic stance just as Buffett does against his own interest on the other side.It's funny how so many republicans decry taxes and tax increases, yet they fully support a tax increase on themselves and seem to not even realize it. It just shows how clueless people are about their taxes, their tax rates, and how much they are actually paying. They support plans under which they'll be paying more and rich will be paying less, and middle class republicans are so quick to defend lower taxes for the wealthy. I don't know what to call that except duped maybe brainwashed... IDK, but it's definitely not informed.
I couldn't if i tried....eating only tacos..or kentucky fried..
Which righties have been complaining about poor people not paying taxes? I know I never have and I'm quite sure I speak for 99% of the Conservatives in this forum.
complete BS
if you have a TV or a cell phone you can afford a little tax
and you miss the point
IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD MORE TAXES maybe you won't be so eager to demand more GOVERNMENT spending if you actually might have to pay a few more dollars to pay for it
saying 47% of the public cannot pay at least some income tax is a complete, total and utter lie
and people like me pay way too much
most of those in the bottom 90% pay a very low amount of federal income taxes compared to their income. less than 15% effective rates to ZERO while those in the top 5% are paying more than 20% and as high as 25% or so. some people with very high salaries-actors, athletes are paying close to 30% effective rates.
but you confuse again from each according to their ability (which I reject) with value received. the rich receive the LEAST VALUE for tax dollar paid. The poor the most
FOXNews.com - Tax the Poor - Opinion
Last fall, the Wall Street Journal ran an editorial entitled "The Non-Taxpaying Class." The editorial, which dubbed those too poor to pay taxes "lucky duckies," won the Journal widespread ridicule from big-hearted egalitarians throughout the world of media and punditry.
But the Wall Street Journal was right. There are now more than 16 million Americans who file tax returns but pay no taxes. And that's not because we're getting poorer. America is getting richer. Fewer people are paying taxes because more and more politicians are succumbing to class warfare, and granting more and more exemptions to an increasingly complex tax code.
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It's time for a politician with moxie to stand up and say what no politician would never say: It's time to tax the poor.
The argument here isn't that the federal government needs more money. It isn't that the rich badly need tax relief. The argument is that if all Americans are to "benefit" from the ever-ballooning federal government, then all Americans should pay for it.
You left out the other food group. Hamburgers, gotta have a balanced diet ya know
If the rich want to pay 999, then they are more than welcome to, but the government shouldn't go all socialist on us and force them to pay more than the poor.rof
Exactly. The poor need to be disincentivized. We need to stop making it more profitable to be poor than to be middle class. Make these people pay their fair share and suddenly there will no longer be an incentive to be in this class.
I have been poor, rich (when I was a teenager, my parents are pretty wealthy), and middle class throughout my life and trust me. Being poor sucks the worst, even with government help.
EXCELLENT. It SHOULD suck the worst. In fact it should suck a lot more than it does currently.
Exactly. The poor need to be disincentivized.
ok, i think i see an opportunity here.
conservatives seem to really latch onto the "lazy poor people" slogan. however, there really aren't enough jobs to give them the opportunity to work their way up.
how about we disincentivize poverty and greed at the same time by taxing the very rich and using that money to hire the poor?
LOL. I've said it before.... I don't advocate the addition of a single penny of tax revenue from anyone who is currently paying income tax until two things happen....
1. We remove ALL unConstitutional spending from the US Budget.
2. We remove the tax floor so the poor are paying into the system that they take so much out of.
Exactly. The poor need to be disincentivized. We need to stop making it more profitable to be poor than to be middle class. Make these people pay their fair share and suddenly there will no longer be an incentive to be in this class.
Do you honestly believe people want to be poor or are poor by choice? Have you studied history? the bible? Do you really know anyone caught in the cycle of poverty? Have you spent anytime at a homeless shelter or equivalent charity for the disadvantaged?
Sorry, but I think you are speaking rather insensitively on a subject you know little about.
Those are both arguable, but I"ll go with the second one.
The POOR are paying into the system? How do you propose we do that? Class-warfare anyone? You can't tax the poor because they don't have money. Think about why increasing taxes on the rich and why increasing taxes on the poor is different. If I make 100k a year (Rich by no means, upper middle class maybe), 1% of that is 1k. If I make 10k a year (Poor), then 1% of that is 100 bucks. I don't know what math you took but 1% of 100k is definitely more money than 1% of 10k. So lets ignore the fact that you are probably stealing a few maels from the poor person. They CAN'T and DON'T have the money to contribute to society. If say 25% of americans are poor, we'll use them making 10k a year at a 1% tax. That is only 7 billion dollars and you have then put stress on people that already are stressed, financially of course. I hate people that think a poor person doesn't go to work 8 hours every day and is only poor because of the fact that A) They didn't invest in their future (AKA College) and/or B) Didn't get born into a society with options. Most probably fall into the B category. Anyways, explain to me how you think it is okay or even sane to expect the poor to pay taxes (minus sales tax which they already pay)
The poor are NOT paying into the system, and that's part of the problem so far as I am concerned. Right now that lack of payment, and the fact that many get back more than they put in via the EITC is an INCENTIVE to stay below the poverty line.
dontworry.... Very nice story, and I'm glad to hear it. You however have a little different situation than most of these people. You, like me and the rest of the workers in this country take some PRIDE in yourself. You have some DIGNITY. You don't want to be a taker. Most of these poor people do not have those things, or the self-respect that comes with them. They are HAPPY to take from the system because they feel they're OWED something because of their race, their ethnic background, or some other bad thing that happened to them. For them that extra $250 IS an incentive. I've had people say it to my face that things like the EITC are exactly what allows them to remain living a decent lifestyle. These people know every loophole and how to game the system. The friend in PA I mentioned earlier has neighbors who can't figure out why she works and won't take advantage of all the programs out there to just sit around on her ass all day like they do.
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