Buy Bye Howard Dean?

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You see, the thing is that the Republican Party has been hijacked by the Rapture Right and there's no way they'll allow McCain to win the nomination.

As far as Rice goes, she has clearly stated over and over that she will not run for any office, nor has she ever run for any office.

Hillary & Obama ARE REAL....McCain & Rice are FICTION. Remember, that Fact is stranger than Fiction....

By those standards alone, Obama and Clinton are fiction as well, since they have not stated publicly they are running either.

Anyway, Obama is still too green to run for a spot higher right now. We'll see Iraq Osama run in 2012, but not 2008.

You're right, Rice has said she won't run...for President. And she doesn't need to have had prior "running for office" experience. The Constitution doesn't require it, and there is precedence of presidents and vice presidents who have no prior politically elected offices under their belts. Rice would not be the first Secretary of State to be President or Vice President.

As for McCain, he'll put up a fight. Although I would support Senator George Allen, McCain has more appeal. McCain/Rice 2008.

 

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As for McCain, he'll put up a fight. Although I would support Senator George Allen, McCain has more appeal. McCain/Rice 2008.

Really? Hmmm? Let's see what Bob Novak the ultra conservative Republican news columinist had to say about this in May 2005:

Hillary vs. Allen

WASHINGTON -- Members of the inner circle of high-ranking House Republicans privately agree that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is an absolute lock for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination and will not be easy to defeat in the general election.

The same lawmakers believe the Republican race to oppose Clinton is wide open but regard Sen. George Allen of Virginia as having the edge over Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee. The consensus among them is that Allen is a better candidate than Frist and will the advantage over him in GOP primaries. The House members see little or no prospect for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Sen. John McCain of Arizona or Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

The Clinton-vs.-Allen forecast by the leading House members duplicates the National Journal's poll of insiders from both parties.

Sweet, isn't it? When you get Bob Novak conceding that Hill & Bill are a formidable team going into 2008 other Republicans better start worrying.

One of the best things that can happen is that those devoted rapture righties stay in power in the Republican Party. More power to them! Let's make Stem Cell Research a major rallying point for the Rapurites!

A CBS poll on 5-25-05 showed:

EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH

Now
Approve
58%
Disapprove
31%

8/2004
Approve
50%
Disapprove
31%

 

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And I guess you base all republican inside info from just one source: Bob Novak.

I never said Hillary would be easy to beat. It's too bad that everyone is passing over Mark Warner, Joe Biden, Evan Buyh, and Bill Richardson for the dems nominee. They are way better and stronger candidates than Hillary Clinton. But because her last name is CLinton and she's married to a fomer President, I suppose that would make her the front runner. And she will be a difficult candidate, because she has everyone and everything at her disposal, a la Bill Clinton.

 

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And I guess you base all republican inside info from just one source: Bob Novak.

Just 1 example, not the "Gospel."

I never said Hillary would be easy to beat. It's too bad that everyone is passing over Mark Warner, Joe Biden, Evan Buyh, and Bill Richardson for the dems nominee. They are way better and stronger candidates than Hillary Clinton. But because her last name is CLinton and she's married to a fomer President, I suppose that would make her the front runner. And she will be a difficult candidate, because she has everyone and everything at her disposal, a la Bill Clinton.

This is a mighty confusing paragraph? On the one hand you say that all these other guys would be better and stronger candidates than Hill & Bill. Then, you say that she will be formidable because she has "everyone and everything at her disposal."

So the others are better and stronger but Hillary has it all? Isn't that a conundrum? I also don't know what "everyone & everything" means, exactly?

 

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When's the last time someone voted for or against the party chairman when voting for President or any other office? I know! NEVER!

Those of you who dislike Dean would never vote for a Democrat anyway, just like those of us who find KEN MEHLMAN a tool. Did you see him on Meet The Press a week ago? He was PATHETIC! Everytime Tim Russert put up a slide with a quote that proved the President wrong he said the same thing, "I respectfully disagree." He said it almost a dozen times!

My point is that nothing he would say would make me vote for a Republican, and the same goes with Dean.

Both parties will raise buckets full of cash so that is irrelevant too.

The real question is what are you Republicans going to do about this:

I'm not sure America can survive a Hillary presidency. One thing for sure is Al Quaida, Russia, France and N. Korea would be dancing in their streets. A socialist that is thoroughly dishonest, coupled with the inexperienced Obama? Bye Bye America!

 

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Really? Hmmm? Let's see what Bob Novak the ultra conservative Republican news columinist had to say about this in May 2005:

Sweet, isn't it? When you get Bob Novak conceding that Hill & Bill are a formidable team going into 2008 other Republicans better start worrying.

One of the best things that can happen is that those devoted rapture righties stay in power in the Republican Party. More power to them! Let's make Stem Cell Research a major rallying point for the Rapurites!

A CBS poll on 5-25-05 showed:

If Hillary is elected, America's only hope would be that they could retain enough power in the senate and house to thwart her radical, far left agenda.

 

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Just 1 example, not the "Gospel."

This is a mighty confusing paragraph? On the one hand you say that all these other guys would be better and stronger candidates than Hill & Bill. Then, you say that she will be formidable because she has "everyone and everything at her disposal."

So the others are better and stronger but Hillary has it all? Isn't that a conundrum? I also don't know what "everyone & everything" means, exactly?

Apologize. Let me clarify: If Hillary Clinton wasn't married to a former President, if her last name was Smith married to a not-so-well-known fella, she'd have as much publicity about her running for president as much as Diane Feinstein and Blanche Lincoln are getting--not much.

But because she's married to a fomer President and her last name is Clinton, she has everyone and everything at her disposal, meaning, she has access to all the right people and staff to run a very successful, tough campaign, a la Bill Clinton, as you forgot to quote.

You take Bill out and the last name and access to the people and staff, and you are left with a U.S. Senator from New York, who has about as much a chance as Feinstein, Lincoln, Landreau, Murray, Stabenow, etc.

Biden, Warner, Richardson, Buyh . . . stronger, cross-appeal, tougher. They won't be the nominees of their party, of course. I think most will concede that point.

But Obama being on the ticket just won't happen. Not in '08 at least.

 

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Apologize. Let me clarify: If Hillary Clinton wasn't married to a former President, if her last name was Smith married to a not-so-well-known fella, she'd have as much publicity about her running for president as much as Diane Feinstein and Blanche Lincoln are getting--not much.

But because she's married to a fomer President and her last name is Clinton, she has everyone and everything at her disposal, meaning, she has access to all the right people and staff to run a very successful, tough campaign, a la Bill Clinton, as you forgot to quote.

You take Bill out and the last name and access to the people and staff, and you are left with a U.S. Senator from New York, who has about as much a chance as Feinstein, Lincoln, Landreau, Murray, Stabenow, etc.

HMMMM...Then what does that say about our dear President, george w BUSH?

Your point, no offense, is meaningless. Part of being Hillary is Bill, just as part of being that dumbass W is #41. You can't erase reality, now can you?

Do you really think George W. would be President today if not for #41?

I ask you therefore, what is the difference?

 

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You can make that inference. I happen to agree with you. Wow, before you go blow your top in a mad rage, maybe you ought to stop assuming things.

Taking things a litttttle too seriously on here, buddy.

 

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You can make that inference. I happen to agree with you. Wow, before you go blow your top in a mad rage, maybe you ought to stop assuming things.

Taking things a litttttle too seriously on here, buddy.

Isn't politics always about who you know more than who you are?

Bill Clinton might actually be the one real exception in the last 73 years (accept for Jimmy Carter who was elected mostly due to any Democrat was going to win in 1976)?

Look back at all the Presidents since FDR and think about who they knew? All were Washington insiders, every one of them. Clinton was most definitely not an insider then....

Ironically you're now saying that Hillary is a major insider.....

 

[Fantasea]

Originally Posted by vauge
The man is a peon for Hillary and he knows it. He will get worse before it gets better.

When Hillary starts down the path she will prove how "middle of the road" she is. Not on extream right or extream left.

She will be hard to beat.

I agree Vague! All Hillary has to do is win every state that Kerry won plus either Ohio or Florida and she's President.

If any of you out there do not think this is a very reasonable scenario, fine, keep underestimating her chances. Remember she can lose all the Red States by 100% to 0% if she holds onto the Blue States and wins Ohio or Florida by ONE vote.

Toss Obama onto the ticket and Republicans will find it tough to win some of the other Red States, i.e. Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico.

Lincoln said it best when he said, "You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

I can't imagine anyone who doesn't understand that Hillary changes positions as often as some women change their hair styles. These days, she goes with the flow on any question that she thinks may siphon away a few republican votes. The only principle she observes is anything goes if it leads to the White house. Can there be that many stupid voters?

She is recognized as a woman with a history of being a fakir, liar, phony, and certainly a sucker. I hope she gets the democratic nomination. That, alone, will result in a ten point switch of intelligent Democrats.
Wait until all the old baggage gets dragged out again. Starting with Whitewater and running right through to stealing the White House silverware on the way out.

 

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Regardless of who is at the top of the ticket, voters still vote their pocketbooks. So long as the Republicans deliver on their promises to reduce taxes and the Democrats continue to promise to erase the Republican tax cuts and add new ones, who do you think is going to get votes?

Who thinks that the Republican tax policies weren't responsible for many of the Democrats crossing over to Bush in the voting booths in 2004?

Additionally, as shown in twelve states, voters repudiate much of the social re-engineering that the Democrats believe is vital to their mission to capture every one of the population segments they have created.

 

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I can't imagine anyone who doesn't understand that Hillary changes positions as often as some women change their hair styles. These days, she goes with the flow on any question that she thinks may siphon away a few republican votes. The only principle she observes is anything goes if it leads to the White house. Can there be that many stupid voters?

She is recognized as a woman with a history of being a fakir, liar, phony, and certainly a sucker. I hope she gets the democratic nomination. That, alone, will result in a ten point switch of intelligent Democrats.
Wait until all the old baggage gets dragged out again. Starting with Whitewater and running right through to stealing the White House silverware on the way out.

Hmmm...another BS post with zero facts, just bluster and made up stuff. Will you ever provide any facts or will you always just make hate-filled attacks?

Please, please show us how Hillary changes positions as often as some women change their hair styles (another fine stereotype from the king of stereotypes)?

How can anyone debate your BS if you never provide facts and always lie? :hammer:

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fantasea
I can't imagine anyone who doesn't understand that Hillary changes positions as often as some women change their hair styles. These days, she goes with the flow on any question that she thinks may siphon away a few republican votes. The only principle she observes is anything goes if it leads to the White house. Can there be that many stupid voters?

She is recognized as a woman with a history of being a fakir, liar, phony, and certainly a sucker. I hope she gets the democratic nomination. That, alone, will result in a ten point switch of intelligent Democrats.
Wait until all the old baggage gets dragged out again. Starting with Whitewater and running right through to stealing the White House silverware on the way out.

Hmmm...another BS post with zero facts, just bluster and made up stuff. Will you ever provide any facts or will you always just make hate-filled attacks?

Please, please show us how Hillary changes positions as often as some women change their hair styles (another fine stereotype from the king of stereotypes)?

How can anyone debate your BS if you never provide facts and always lie?

I'll give you just one instance that covers all.

Anyone in the US, who is not living in a cave, cannot have escaped the barrage of media sludge that has Hillary "moving toward the center" on every issue in order to make herself attractive to the less extreme sectors of the electorate.

Perhaps you did not escape it, perhaps it escaped you.