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Chaos10187 said:Ok, a few things ageinst you.
Your grammer is bad
No Source
No Reference
Convince me, don't tell me.
Pacridge said:Here's a thought- before assulting anyone's post for grammer, or anything for that matter, check your spelling. Then make an attempt to direct your post to whom you're assulting. Of course you could just try to make your point without the assult altogether. Just a thought.
alienken said:PRES. Bush is acting like you are suppose to act when you are a true Christian.
heyjoeo said:Hey pwo, prove to me eternal life.
HERE HERE!Pacridge said:Since when is lying the behavior of a true Christian?
pwo said:Parcridge,
Since when did Bush lie.
And don't say WMD.
heyjoeo,
Jesus said to believe in him and have eternal life. I believe in Jesus so I will live forever.
pwo said:Yes, a few of those are legitimate lies, but what really is a lie. Bush had the mission accomplished sign, but the mission wasn't accomplished. He said we would kill bin laden but we haven't yet. He said years ago that we would create hydrogen cars(and he still does). He has said a lot of things, are those three examples lies.
Can you prove that the rich have been helped out more? Those tax cuts were for the rich to spend and the poor to get more jobs because of the increased spending. The economy has done better. If the rich have been helped more, did Bush know how it would work.
What about social security. He says that it will go bankrupt in 2049, dems say later. Its just different projections. But, most would agree that there will be problems in the future.
I guess a lie is what you want to believe. The patriots will win the super bowl, says me, but what if they don't am I a liar.
PS: Seriously, you are on of the more intelligent people at this site. You always seem to know what you are talking about (even if I don't agree with you) and willing to back it up.
This is very true, but not many americans think of it like this. I agree with you.anomaly said:Just some comments...
The whole problem with Bush's tax cuts is this: Noone likes paying a lot in taxes, but if you do pay more, look what they're going towards. Schools, social programs and other things. And thanks to Bush's tax cuts, schools have less money now. Instead of raising taxes on SS slightly, or raising the pay ceiling (see my economics post), Bush proposes private accounts. Who will benefit most from privatizing SS? The rich people who paid for his campaign. Privatizing SS doesn't bode well for the average guy like you and me (see aarp.com). And Pacridge, you're 100% right when it comes to Bush's lies about SS going bankrupt. It can NEVER go bankrupt. If nothing is done today to fix it, then in 2042 you'll receive less in benefits than you paid into it. That's it.
Speaking of SS, any cons willing to put their argument in favor of private accounts in writing in the economics forum?
pwo said:Parcridge,
I guess a lie is what you make it to be. If you villainize someone they seem like a liar to you, even if what they say is not completley bad. As for the hydrogen cars, Bush mentioned them last week at the state of the union. He does it every year. I really don't think he is going to do anything.
anomaly,
You are mostly right. Once we are completly stable he should raise taxes, but lowering them helped us to get out of the resesion. About SS: First off aarp is not a good site to get your info from. That's like me going to gop.com to find out what's wrong with SS. I don't know how old you are but I'm pretty young. I'll probally retire around 2046. I kind of like the bush's idea (the only idea i don't like is the 2 trillion it will cost). If the plan work's then it's a good idea. I'm not sure that its a good idea but I like that bush is trying to do something about it.
pwo said:Parcridge,
I guess a lie is what you make it to be. If you villainize someone they seem like a liar to you, even if what they say is not completley bad. As for the hydrogen cars, Bush mentioned them last week at the state of the union. He does it every year. I really don't think he is going to do anything.
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