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Brutal MASS RAPE OF BERLIN, LARGEST IN THE HISTORY ? WHY #METOO NEVER TALK IT? (1 Viewer)

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Brutal MASS RAPE OF BERLIN, LARGEST IN THE HISTORY ? WHY #METOO NEVER TALK IT?
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The Crebain

3 weeks ago (edited)

I'm hungarian and my grandmother told us stories of how her sister and her were hidden into beds when the red army were around. It is terrifying to think of this happening to anyone, let alone to family.
 
Brutal MASS RAPE OF BERLIN, LARGEST IN THE HISTORY ? WHY #METOO NEVER TALK IT?
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The Crebain

3 weeks ago (edited)

I'm hungarian and my grandmother told us stories of how her sister and her were hidden into beds when the red army were around. It is terrifying to think of this happening to anyone, let alone to family.


....because it happened in 1945.

Duh.

That’s what happens when scum like your heroes in the Third Reich decide to fight a genocidal war of conquest....and lose.
 
The conservative measure for sexual assaults carried out by the Ostheer in Eastern Europe is 10 million.
 
Why does this read like justifying mass rape?

Because that’s the conclusion you came to at the start, and now you are working backwards trying to “justify” said conclusion.

Fact. The Germans chose to launch a genocidal war of aggression.

Fact. They engaged in mass rape during that war of aggression.

Fact. Ignoring the laws of war and committing genocide tend to come back to bite you in the ass.
 
....because it happened in 1945.

Duh.

That’s what happens when scum like your heroes in the Third Reich decide to fight a genocidal war of conquest....and lose.
Lol, the guy that won't stop talking about Banderas dismisses mass rape because it happened 80 years ago. Your posts are inconsistent and ridiculous.
Why does this read like justifying mass rape?
That's just the kind of guy Tigerace is. What more do you expect from a guy that glorifies nazis?
 
Lol, the guy that won't stop talking about Banderas dismisses mass rape because it happened 80 years ago. Your posts are inconsistent and ridiculous.

That's just the kind of guy Tigerace is. What more do you expect from a guy that glorifies nazis?

Lol, the guy who endlessly tries to excuse Nazi collaboration is whining again.

He asked why MeToo wasn’t talking about what happened in Berlin. I answered his question. You’d embarrass yourself less if you actually paid attention to what happens in a thread ;)
 
My grandmother lived through this time. I had always thought that the Russians were in a small way justified after the Germans rolled in in 1941 giving absolutely no quarter to anyone. If you offer no quarter, you cannot expect to receive any.

After current events it seems to be more of a SOP. In 1945, the Russian troops also removed toilets and other plumbing accessories, and loaded them on eastbound trucks. They were used to shitting in the dirt.
 
Why does this read like justifying mass rape?
+1,

Tigerace117 , IS LYING AS USUAL , Maskali are natural rapists​


The subject of rape during the Soviet occupation of Poland at the end of World War II in Europe was absent from the postwar historiography until the dissolution of the Soviet Union, although the documents of the era show that the problem was serious both during and after the advance of Soviet forces against Nazi Germany in 1944–1945.[1] The lack of research for nearly half a century regarding the scope of sexual violence by Soviet males, wrote Katherine Jolluck,[2] had been magnified by the traditional taboos among their victims, who were incapable of finding "a voice that would have enabled them to talk openly" about their wartime experiences "while preserving their dignity."[2] Joanna Ostrowska and Marcin Zaremba of the Polish Academy of Sciences wrote that rapes of the Polish women reached a mass scale during the Red Army's Winter Offensive of 1945.[3]

Among the factors contributing to the escalation of sexual violence against women, during the occupation of Poland, was a sense of impunity on the part of individual Soviet units left to fend for themselves by their military leaders. In search of food supplies and provisions – wrote Dr Janusz Wróbel of IPN – the marauding soldiers formed gangs ready to open fire (as in Jędrzejów). Livestock was being herded away, fields cleared of grain without recompense and Polish homes looted. In a letter to his Voivode, a Łódź county starosta warned that plunder of goods from stores and farms was often accompanied by the rape of farmhands as in Zalesie, Olechów, Feliksin and Huta Szklana, not to mention other crimes, including rape–murder in Łagiewniki. The heavily armed marauders robbed cars, horse-drawn carriages, even trains. In his next letter to Polish authorities, the same starosta wrote that rape and plunder is causing the population to fear and hate the Soviet regime.[





How do Belarusian women suffer from Russian soldiers?​


The aggressive behavior of the Russian military in Belarus is not limited to threats and drunkenness. According to Mariya, local human rights activists are aware of at least four women who have suffered sexual abuse by members of the Russian army.
 
+1,

Tigerace117 , IS LYING AS USUAL , Maskali are natural rapists​


The subject of rape during the Soviet occupation of Poland at the end of World War II in Europe was absent from the postwar historiography until the dissolution of the Soviet Union, although the documents of the era show that the problem was serious both during and after the advance of Soviet forces against Nazi Germany in 1944–1945.[1] The lack of research for nearly half a century regarding the scope of sexual violence by Soviet males, wrote Katherine Jolluck,[2] had been magnified by the traditional taboos among their victims, who were incapable of finding "a voice that would have enabled them to talk openly" about their wartime experiences "while preserving their dignity."[2] Joanna Ostrowska and Marcin Zaremba of the Polish Academy of Sciences wrote that rapes of the Polish women reached a mass scale during the Red Army's Winter Offensive of 1945.[3]

Among the factors contributing to the escalation of sexual violence against women, during the occupation of Poland, was a sense of impunity on the part of individual Soviet units left to fend for themselves by their military leaders. In search of food supplies and provisions – wrote Dr Janusz Wróbel of IPN – the marauding soldiers formed gangs ready to open fire (as in Jędrzejów). Livestock was being herded away, fields cleared of grain without recompense and Polish homes looted. In a letter to his Voivode, a Łódź county starosta warned that plunder of goods from stores and farms was often accompanied by the rape of farmhands as in Zalesie, Olechów, Feliksin and Huta Szklana, not to mention other crimes, including rape–murder in Łagiewniki. The heavily armed marauders robbed cars, horse-drawn carriages, even trains. In his next letter to Polish authorities, the same starosta wrote that rape and plunder is causing the population to fear and hate the Soviet regime.[





How do Belarusian women suffer from Russian soldiers?​


The aggressive behavior of the Russian military in Belarus is not limited to threats and drunkenness. According to Mariya, local human rights activists are aware of at least four women who have suffered sexual abuse by members of the Russian army.

There is no such thing as a “natural rapist”.
 
My grandmother lived through this time. I had always thought that the Russians were in a small way justified after the Germans rolled in in 1941 giving absolutely no quarter to anyone. If you offer no quarter, you cannot expect to receive any.

After current events it seems to be more of a SOP. In 1945, the Russian troops also removed toilets and other plumbing accessories, and loaded them on eastbound trucks. They were used to shitting in the dirt.
Muscovites´ mass - rapes of Belarusians , Poles, Hungarians , Baltic , Serbian, etc. girls , some of them were 7- 9 years old

Western estimates of the traceable number of rape victims range from two hundred thousand to two million.[116] Following the Winter Offensive of 1945, mass rape by Soviet males occurred in all major cities taken by the Red Army. Women were gang raped by as many as several dozen soldiers during the liberation of Poland. In some cases victims who did not hide in the basements all day were raped up to 15 times.[75][117] According to historian Antony Beevor, following the Red Army's capture of Berlin in 1945, Soviet troops raped German women and girls as young as eight years old.[118]

The explanation of "revenge" is disputed by Beevor, at least with regard to the mass rapes. Beevor has written that Red Army soldiers also raped Soviet and Polish women liberated from concentration camps, and he contends that this undermines the revenge explanation,[119] they were often committed by rear echelon units.[120]

...the rapes continued until the winter of 1947–48, when Soviet occupation authorities finally confined troops to strictly guarded posts and camps.[122] Naimark concluded that "The social psychology of women and men in the Soviet zone of occupation was marked by the crime of rape from the first days of occupation, through the founding of the GDR in the fall of 1949, until, one could argue, the present."[123]

According to Richard Overy, the Russians refused to acknowledge Soviet war crimes, partly "because they felt that much of it was justified vengeance against an enemy who committed much worse, and partly it was because they were writing the victors' history."[124

Andrea Peto - Telling The Untellable, The History of II World War Rape in Hungary

 
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what your My grandmother said about Muscovites´ mass - rapes of Belarusians , Poles, Hungarians , Baltic , Serbian, etc. girls , some of them were 7- 9 years old ?

Western estimates of the traceable number of rape victims range from two hundred thousand to two million.[116] Following the Winter Offensive of 1945, mass rape by Soviet males occurred in all major cities taken by the Red Army. Women were gang raped by as many as several dozen soldiers during the liberation of Poland. In some cases victims who did not hide in the basements all day were raped up to 15 times.[75][117] According to historian Antony Beevor, following the Red Army's capture of Berlin in 1945, Soviet troops raped German women and girls as young as eight years old.[118]

The explanation of "revenge" is disputed by Beevor, at least with regard to the mass rapes. Beevor has written that Red Army soldiers also raped Soviet and Polish women liberated from concentration camps, and he contends that this undermines the revenge explanation,[119] they were often committed by rear echelon units.[120]

...the rapes continued until the winter of 1947–48, when Soviet occupation authorities finally confined troops to strictly guarded posts and camps.[122] Naimark concluded that "The social psychology of women and men in the Soviet zone of occupation was marked by the crime of rape from the first days of occupation, through the founding of the GDR in the fall of 1949, until, one could argue, the present."[123]

According to Richard Overy, the Russians refused to acknowledge Soviet war crimes, partly "because they felt that much of it was justified vengeance against an enemy who committed much worse, and partly it was because they were writing the victors' history."[124

Andrea Peto - Telling The Untellable, The History of II World War Rape in Hungary


Quote the entire post, Litwin!

 
Because that’s the conclusion you came to at the start, and now you are working backwards trying to “justify” said conclusion.

Fact. The Germans chose to launch a genocidal war of aggression.

Fact. They engaged in mass rape during that war of aggression.

Fact. Ignoring the laws of war and committing genocide tend to come back to bite you in the ass.
No...because that's what you wrote came off as. To review, you wrote:

"That’s what happens when scum like your heroes in the Third Reich decide to fight a genocidal war of conquest....and lose."

As if the Germans doing what you said means their women should be raped, and you write even more things that seem to justify it. I asked it as a question, though, and you could've just said "No", but you still didn't.
 
DIRTY Muscovite PIG- DOGS = “natural rapists”





Once again, there’s no such thing as a “natural rapist”. Rape is pretty ****ing universal across the globe. For example, the US military has a pretty massive sexual assault issue— does that make Americans “natural rapists”? 🙄
 
Lol, the guy that won't stop talking about Banderas dismisses mass rape because it happened 80 years ago. Your posts are inconsistent and ridiculous.

That's just the kind of guy Tigerace is. What more do you expect from a guy that glorifies nazis?
I cant get out of my head that he has a tank as an Avatar, and goes on in threads about war and the military (like he's doing here) like he's a badass and I just found out he didn't even make it through training.
 
No...because that's what you wrote came off as. To review, you wrote:

"That’s what happens when scum like your heroes in the Third Reich decide to fight a genocidal war of conquest....and lose."

As if the Germans doing what you said means their women should be raped, and you write even more things that seem to justify it. I asked it as a question, though, and you could've just said "No", but you still didn't.

You are reaching again.

I pointed out what happens when you fight a genocidal war of aggression....and lose.

Unlike some posters blathering on about “natural rapists”— which gee, you don’t see to have the slightest issue with— I’m not inventing “justifications” for anything.

I am pointing out a fact.
 
I cant get out of my head that he has a tank as an Avatar, and goes on in threads about war and the military (like he's doing here) like he's a badass and I just found out he didn't even make it through training.

Gee bud, when did I call myself a “badass”? I’m flattered that you are so impressed by me though ;)
 
Unlike some posters blathering on about “natural rapists”
You're correct here, and I'm going to address it. I just often skim through what he posts because of formatting, giant walls of text, and rambling that is always something about Russia or as like to call them "Muskovites" or w/e it is he's always going on with.
 
+1,

Tigerace117 , IS LYING AS USUAL , Maskali are natural rapists​

While this factually happened, this idea of these people as a group being natural rapists is not it, and is born out of prejudice. Rape has been a common tactic and behavior, especially during war, throughout human history. It's only been a very recent thing that it has been changed and, even then, it depends on where in the world you're talking about because it's still going on a lot to this very day.

Everyone country and group is capable of such atrocities. The idea that it's a particular attribute of one group or another group would never only leaves them open for that very thing.
 
I cant get out of my head that he has a tank as an Avatar, and goes on in threads about war and the military (like he's doing here) like he's a badass and I just found out he didn't even make it through training.
Do you have any idea how big of a useless ***** one has to be to not make it through basic training? They push people through almost no matter what.

I guess he doubled down on shame and now goes into every thread about Russian war crimes defending the Russians, blaming the Americans and insulting the Ukrainians.
 

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